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Just wondering if you think Hillary will lose in the primaries or make it to the general election and lose to the republican nominee.
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Sep 7, 2015 22:24
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i think she'll win
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Sep 7, 2015 22:29
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I think when she releases the sex tape it will push her over the top.
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Sep 7, 2015 22:44
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Hillary wins primary? Dems win. Bernie wins primary? Depends on Republican candidate.
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Sep 7, 2015 22:55
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Poizen Jam posted:Hillary wins primary? Dems win. I could see Hillary losing to Rubio or even Kasich on a bad day.
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Sep 7, 2015 22:58
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Rubio maybe but honestly that's the first time I've heard that second name. The Republican primary is so far much more interesting. It's fun watching them try to balance pandering to the rabid base while not alienating potential voters on the general election. Even funnier when certain candidates ruin their electability by coming out against gay rights.
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Sep 7, 2015 23:14
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crazy eights posted:Just wondering if you think Hillary will lose in the primaries or make it to the general election and lose to the republican nominee. Both
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Sep 8, 2015 01:25
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nice meltdown.
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Sep 8, 2015 01:53
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Appachai posted:Both
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Sep 8, 2015 02:21
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She could probably lose to any of the top contenders, she is a loving awful campaigner.Poizen Jam posted:The Republican primary is so far much more interesting. It's fun watching them try to balance pandering to the rabid base while not alienating potential voters on the general election. Even funnier when certain candidates ruin their electability by coming out against gay rights. Well except trump of course, who is both willing to tax the rich and loves teh gays.
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Sep 8, 2015 02:31
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It depends on how many hedge fund managers she can get out to the polls
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Sep 8, 2015 03:55
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It's just a matter of how badly Bernie beats her.
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Sep 8, 2015 05:16
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neither. Hillary Clinton is going to both with the primary and general election. Not going to fall for the whole "if Hillary Clinton couldn't "satisfy" her husband, how could she keep the country satisfied?" like a lot of conservative and Bernie Supporters say, constantly.
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Sep 8, 2015 06:53
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AfroLine posted:Not going to fall for the whole "if Hillary Clinton couldn't "satisfy" her husband, how could she keep the country satisfied?" like a lot of conservative and Bernie Supporters say, constantly. gently caress off.
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Sep 8, 2015 07:31
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AfroLine posted:neither. Hillary Clinton is going to both with the primary and general election. Not going to fall for the whole "if Hillary Clinton couldn't "satisfy" her husband, how could she keep the country satisfied?" like a lot of conservative and Bernie Supporters say, constantly. Bernie supporters don't say that. Why do Hillary and Hillary boosters constantly feel the need to exaggerate and lie about what is said about her?
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Sep 8, 2015 14:47
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tsa posted:She could probably lose to any of the top contenders, she is a loving awful campaigner. Being able to secure the most amount of endorsements of any candidate in recent history this early into the primary sure is a sign of a bad campaigner, as we know the Republicans are just bursting with talent which is by they aren't being steamrolled by a circus clown.
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Sep 8, 2015 15:04
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Hillary has never won a difficult campaign in her life and yet it is still widely believed that she is some sort of power artist. She will lose, if not to Sanders in the summer then to the GOP in the fall.
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Sep 8, 2015 15:04
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Feather posted:Bernie supporters don't say that. Why do Hillary and Hillary boosters constantly feel the need to exaggerate and lie about what is said about her? lol have you ever left this forum (hint: people still unironically make shillery comments on this forum).
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Sep 8, 2015 15:04
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Literally anyone could beat the Republicans in the general and considering Sanders isn't actually running against Hillary...
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Sep 8, 2015 15:08
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Venom Snake posted:Being able to secure the most amount of endorsements of any candidate in recent history this early into the primary sure is a sign of a bad campaigner, as we know the Republicans are just bursting with talent which is by they aren't being steamrolled by a circus clown. She was the only establishment candidate running when most of those came in. It's not at all unsurprisingly. What also isn't surprising is how smug and terrible it makes her supporters.
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Sep 8, 2015 15:11
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Feather posted:She was the only establishment candidate running when most of those came in. It's not at all unsurprisingly. What also isn't surprising is how smug and terrible it makes her supporters. The Democratic party faithful aren't rushing to endorse a non-Democrat.
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Sep 8, 2015 16:57
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Feather posted:She was the only establishment candidate running when most of those came in. It's not at all unsurprisingly. What also isn't surprising is how smug and terrible it makes her supporters. If you are running for president through a party you are an establishment candidate, Bernie is the literal definition of a career politician. The reason why Hillary has so many endorsements is because her ground game blows everyone elses out of the water and she knows how to work with people in the party. Do you seriously think it's smug and terrible to say facts? It is in fact possible to support both Bernie and Hillary and think they are both good people.
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Sep 8, 2015 18:53
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i don't think hillary is the president america wants or needs
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Sep 8, 2015 18:56
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Venom Snake posted:If you are running for president through a party you are an establishment candidate, Bernie is the literal definition of a career politician. That is just complete nonsense. "Careeer politician" is not a synonym for "establishment candidate." quote:The reason why Hillary has so many endorsements is because her ground game blows everyone elses out of the water and she knows how to work with people in the party. You're conflating "ground game" with "insider support." Again. quote:Do you seriously think it's smug and terrible to say facts? Not in general, no. Other qualities are what comprise the smugness and terrible nature of Hillary and her supporters.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:19
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Obviously Hillary has a lot of money to burn, which helps with GOTV stuff, but if her ground-game is so great then why did she lose to Obama last time and why is Sanders pulling bigger crowds this time around?
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Sep 8, 2015 19:29
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Feather posted:That is just complete nonsense. "Careeer politician" is not a synonym for "establishment candidate." He is an establishment candidate dude. He's a democrat running in the democrat primaries. are you seriously implying a dude who has caused with the dems for 30+ years isn't establishment lmao Feather posted:You're conflating "ground game" with "insider support." Again. Her ground game is good, and she has a lot of inside support because she's good at getting inside support and has a much more competent campaign staff this time around. Feather posted:Not in general, no. Other qualities are what comprise the smugness and terrible nature of Hillary and her supporters. Hillary and her supporters are not terrible people, sorry to burst your bubble. Helsing posted:Obviously Hillary has a lot of money to burn, which helps with GOTV stuff, but if her ground-game is so great then why did she lose to Obama last time and why is Sanders pulling bigger crowds this time around? Sanders is pulling bigger crowds because he's hosting himself in bigger venues, and the reason why her ground game is so awesome is because she lost to Obama.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:31
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Start to look like the nomination will go to whatever establishment friendly Dem can swoop in at the right moment to capitalize on Hillary's decline. The fact Biden is polling so well without even announcing suggests that some Dems are nervous about not having another option other than Sanders.Venom Snake posted:Sanders is pulling bigger crowds because he's hosting himself in bigger venues, and the reason why her ground game is so awesome is because she lost to Obama. Then where is the evidence of her impressive ground game then? How do I measure how much better it's become? And why isn't she hosting herself in larger venues to build up a support base of enthusiastic volunteers? Seems counter intuitive to argue that Sander's advantage is merely that he books larger rooms - if that's the only issue why wouldn't Clinton do the same thing and reap similar rewards?
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Sep 8, 2015 20:36
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Venom Snake posted:He is an establishment candidate dude. He's a democrat running in the democrat primaries. are you seriously implying a dude who has caused with the dems for 30+ years isn't establishment lmao. Sanders is literally not a Democrat.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:42
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Miltank posted:Sanders is literally not a Democrat. That won't stop him from taking the nomination then the white house, Hillary's resistance only makes his grassroots volunteer harder. Edit: Seriously though, you people saying he's a democrat. 
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Sep 8, 2015 20:47
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If you are running in the democratic primary you are a democrat
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Sep 8, 2015 20:50
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Venom Snake posted:If you are running in the democratic primary you are a democrat But one of Hillary's attacks against him is that he is not actually a Democrat. Can Hillary supporters keep their attacks straight? Answer: no.
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Sep 8, 2015 21:27
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Feather posted:But one of Hillary's attacks against him is that he is not actually a Democrat. Can Hillary supporters keep their attacks straight? Answer: no. Hillary hasn't attacked Sanders at all wtf are you on about
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Sep 8, 2015 21:30
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Venom Snake posted:Hillary hasn't attacked Sanders at all wtf are you on about She has her minions attack him.
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Sep 8, 2015 22:05
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Venom Snake posted:If you are running in the democratic primary you are a democrat lmao wtf is this poo poo bernie has been an independent for years now, him running for the democratic ticket is just because an independent candidate has no chance of winning any nationwide election i mean, i guess technically he's a dem for this election and, if he wins the presidency, the next 4-8 years, but his heart is with the independents
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Sep 8, 2015 22:24
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AfroLine posted:neither. Hillary Clinton is going to both with the primary and general election. Not going to fall for the whole "if Hillary Clinton couldn't "satisfy" her husband, how could she keep the country satisfied?" like a lot of conservative and Bernie Supporters say, constantly. Hang yourself
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Sep 8, 2015 22:32
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Venom Snake posted:Hillary hasn't attacked Sanders at all wtf are you on about Her campaign is paying the tab for people like the Castro brothers to fly around and tell lies to attack Sanders. Hillary may not be personally attacking him (at least not "on the record"), but her campaign is, because they're paying for people to do it. It's the same as Hillary doing it, except her supporters get to engage in grade-school blame shifting and sperg about technicalities that she didn't explicitly say the words herself. It's like saying somebody who hires an assassin didn't kill the target.
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Sep 8, 2015 22:50
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:lmao wtf is this poo poo He's caucused with the Democrats, had an electoral agreement with them in Vermont to not run against him, votes with the Democratic leadership as if not more often than most Democrats, and got positions in the Senate from the Democrats. He was, if anything, an independent in name only. E: I say this as someone who doesn't support Sanders or the Democratic Party. Rogue0071 has issued a correction as of 02:14 on Sep 9, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 23:04
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and yet, he is literally still not a dem.
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Sep 8, 2015 23:09
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Leave the d&d level pedantry in d&d please its not fun to post with people who do that. Bernie is democrat enough
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Sep 8, 2015 23:20
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Venom Snake posted:If you are running for president through a party you are an establishment candidate, Bernie is the literal definition of a career politician. The reason why Hillary has so many endorsements is because her ground game blows everyone elses out of the water and she knows how to work with people in the party. Do you seriously think it's smug and terrible to say facts? This is word salad. You don't know what half of those terms even mean.
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