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Veskit posted:When's the trade deadline in HHL? I may have to make some serious deals if they're at all possible. March 3 (Thursday) I put Ovechkin, Kessel, Krejci, Crawford, and Luongo on my trade block, but I'm actually open to trade just about anyone. I think Gaudreau is my only untouchable because I picked him off waivers last year and so his keeper cost is, like, $3. Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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I swear if someone had the patience they should just buy crosby/malkin/karrlson/stamkos for whatever cost, sit on them then trade them for the best keepers
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Mar 1, 2016 19:51
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fancy stats posted:Haha, figured he'd be a good keeper option once his call up was announced. Luckily, my office is super lax when it comes to me loving around. Keeping Nylander this year will depend on how well he finishes the season. I have been lugging around Bennett and Reinhart all season (well, I dropped Bennett for a month), and I really have no idea who I'd keep between those two. If Nylander can somehow make more of an impression, then I may lean towards him. Barkov is my man, though. He's the guy I really wanted. I tried to draft him this year before bidding got too high for me. As of right now, my keeper options (ranked by my desire to keep them): Barkov, Lehner, Allen (Lehner is $2 compared to Allen's $26), Barrie, Reinhart, Bennet, Nylander. I didn't include Simmonds because I think this is my last year I can keep him.
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Mar 1, 2016 19:58
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I think I'm probably going to sit on Forsberg/Panarin, the upgrade to a true star is so minimal that they're really not worth moving. Tyler Johnson is available though if anyone values him as a keeper.
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Mar 1, 2016 20:44
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I've still got Seguin and Crosby both available if somebody blows me away with an offer. I'm not sure there's a deal to be done though since trading them would definitely ruin any small chance I've got at the playoffs.
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Mar 1, 2016 21:18
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T-Bone posted:Tyler Johnson is available though if anyone values him as a keeper. how much is the cost to keeper him next year?
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Mar 1, 2016 23:36
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Twin Cinema posted:I traded Hall and Toews for Barkov and Nylander. I was too slow in nabbing Nylander yesterday morning (stupid work!), but I figure I'd take a chance on him for two guys that I wasn't going to keep at the end of the year. Also, I am super high on Barkov. It's all good. I assumed you didn't notice how much I paid for him when you first offered that deal lol. Honestly the only player I have that might be appealing to a tanking team and that I'm open to moving is Ehlers. I picked him up off waivers at the start so he's just a 1$. Might be a good keeper for a tank team. If any such team is interested in trading me a good scorer for him, I am open to offers. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 01:16
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Twin Cinema posted:I traded Hall and Toews for Barkov and Nylander. I was too slow in nabbing Nylander yesterday morning (stupid work!), but I figure I'd take a chance on him for two guys that I wasn't going to keep at the end of the year. Also, I am super high on Barkov. We need to make a capgeek site for HHL so we know who picked up when in what season and then we can see who might be available for playoff runs... heh.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:10
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Yeah, at first glance it's kind of ridiculous, but there's no chance I'm keeping Toews or Hall at 91 and 71, so I'm just going full Sather. Keeping track of all of this is kind of a pain in the rear end, and basically involves me switching between looking up historical drafts in the league and trying to find previous years' fantasy hockey threads. e: If anyone else is looking forward to next season already, I've still got something of a future I'm looking to stamp out. fancy stats fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 06:35
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My HHL team is eerily like my HHL team last year: high in the standings but I don't feel it deserves to be there. So maybe, maybe, I would sell. Lundqvist, Patches, Sharp, Hornqvist available, I guess. toe knee hand fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 06:42
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Alright, I need HHL trade advice. I'm leaning towards accepting but I'd like a second opinion. I'm at the point where I'm definitely selling for next season. I would give up: Sidney Crosby: $121 -> $146 Nathan Mackinnon: $62 -> $75 And get in return from Veskit: Ryan O'Reilly: $42 -> $51 Brad Marchand: $21 -> $26 Both O'Reilly and Marchand were drafted this year, and I very much doubt I would keep Crosby or Mackinnon. My other two keepers would likely be Tarasenko ($36 -> $44) and Mark Stone ($2 -> $3).
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Mar 2, 2016 21:32
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Jamwad Hilder posted:how much is the cost to keeper him next year? $18-> $22 but he's only got 1 year left. mentholmoose posted:Alright, I need HHL trade advice. I'm leaning towards accepting but I'd like a second opinion. I'm at the point where I'm definitely selling for next season. Seems reasonable to me. Got any other offers? So I lied and ended up moving Forsberg after all when Crawford was dangled. Forsberg/Johnson/Varlamov for Ovi/Ekblad/Crawford. I actually would have probably kept Johnson but he's the worst forward on my roster right now (although he appears to be heating up) because of his pure C eligibility and lack of other counting (and I was already running an empty D spot so Ekblad solves that). T-Bone fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 21:40
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Yeah I thought you might go for Crow. His stats are just too good and your goaltending needed some help. Plus Ovechkin, obviously. Ekblad is only $14 > $16 (17 if you round up) if you feel like keeping him, as well. I think the trade makes my team a real contender next year. I'll have a ton of money at the draft and a solid group of keepers. Gaudreau $6 > $7 (8 if we round up) - year 3 of 3 Forsberg $3 > $4 - year 2 of 3 Hellebuyck $1 > $2 - year 2 of 3 and then for my fourth spot I can either do: Palat $3 > $4 - year 3 of 3 Johnson $18 >$22 - year 3 of 3 Palat/Johnson decision will depend on how they do down the stretch/in the playoffs, but at max I'm looking at spending $35 on keepers and potentially as low as $17.
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Mar 2, 2016 21:53
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Yeah your team is going to be really good next year. I'm not sure who I end up keeping now, I've got Panarin but everyone else is pretty expensive. But gently caress I've already finished 2nd twice gotta go for it.
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Mar 2, 2016 21:59
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T-Bone posted:Seems reasonable to me. Got any other offers? Not right now, so I figure I'll accept. The only other offer I even got was from you, and I just did not want Tyler Johnson.
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Mar 2, 2016 22:22
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If someone could remind me of the keeper rules in HHL, that would be great. I believe you can keep a player for 4 years, which means I have Wayne Simmonds next year (I first drafted him before the 2012-13 season), correct?
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Mar 2, 2016 22:30
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quote:You may keep (4) players from last year's FINAL roster. If you have kept a player for (3) straight years you cannot keep him again (as in, they've been on your roster for 3 seasons). The keeper cost continues to be their cost from last year + 20% The wording is dumb I should probably rewrite that. Essentially you can have a player for 3 seasons. The season in which you pick them up + 2. e: I don't even remember how we've been doing trades. I think the years on the previous team count but if that's wrong feel free to correct me. T-Bone fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 22:39
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Thank you kindly, sir.
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Mar 2, 2016 22:40
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Everyone look over my lovely team (Hull & Oates) and pick the scraps. Everyone's for sale except Mrazek. There's not much there, but hell, I'll give up 2-3 pieces for a decent keeper!
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Mar 2, 2016 22:43
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T-Bone posted:The wording is dumb I should probably rewrite that. Essentially you can have a player for 3 seasons. The season in which you pick them up + 2. Years previous did we had the seguin debacle over it. If the years didn't then you could perpetually trade 5 dollar players.
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Mar 2, 2016 22:48
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T-Bone posted:The wording is dumb I should probably rewrite that. Essentially you can have a player for 3 seasons. The season in which you pick them up + 2. Well the wording is "if they've been on your roster for 3 seasons" so if you acquire a keeper via trade that should be year 1 of them being on your roster. I'm obviously biased here because I want Forsberg for as long as possible though. I'm fine with the rule being that a player can only be kept (ie, not eligible for the draft) 3 years in a row regardless of how many teams own them over that time span if that's what the majority of the league wants.
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Mar 2, 2016 22:54
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Oh PS my friend who isn't a goon in HHL (Richards Medications) said he'd be open to flipping Malkin for keepers. As far as I can tell the only definite keepers he has on his roster are Gostisbehere and Kuznetsov at the moment.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:02
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I'm fine with the rule being that a player can only be kept (ie, not eligible for the draft) 3 years in a row regardless of how many teams own them over that time span if that's what the majority of the league wants. I think that's what I'd prefer, because certain players would never re-enter the draft otherwise.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:54
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The rule has been kept for three years regardless of trades, hence the Seguin drama an offseason or two ago.
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Mar 3, 2016 00:06
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Holy poo poo on the same day 5 of us decided to sell the farm how did this never happen in HHL until now?
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Veskit posted:Holy poo poo on the same day 5 of us decided to sell the farm how did this never happen in HHL until now? We're all going full Glen Sather
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Veskit posted:Holy poo poo on the same day 5 of us decided to sell the farm how did this never happen in HHL until now? I wasn't planning on it but I'm not convinced Draisaitl is legit so it was a hard one to turn down. toe knee hand fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Mar 3, 2016 |
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Mar 3, 2016 04:08
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Really if you're a bad team you should be auctioning off your best players that you aren't going to keeper. So there should be a flurry of trades every year. If you're a contending team you have to think about whether or not you want to sacrifice the future but if you're a bad team there should be no question you trade anything not bolted down for futures.
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Mar 3, 2016 04:12
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toe knee hand posted:I wasn't planning on it but I'm not convinced Draisaitl is legit so it was a hard one to turn down. I thought that was a really nice trade for both of you. Malkin obviously helps you contend now, other guy is a basement team but has Draisaitl, Kuznetsov, and Gostisbehere for next season.
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Mar 3, 2016 05:26
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I missed all the fun!!!!
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Mar 3, 2016 06:23
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With the deadline tomorrow in my keeper league, I managed to trade: Backes (5), Monahan (8), Palmieri (15), Burakovsky (15), Vatanen (10), Demers (15), Dumba (15), and Vasilevskiy (18) from my already first place by 50+ points team, for: MacKinnon (3), Karlsson (2), Ekman-Larsson (7), Dubinsky (11), Couturier (15), Niskanen (15), and Hellebuyck (15) *parenthesis are current round values (25 rd. draft) Simmonds-Bergeron-Giroux Pavelski-Spezza-MacKinnon Larkin-Johansen-Jagr Hartnell-Dubinsky-Perron Couturier / Miller / Rask Karlsson-OEL Suter-Niskanen Russell-Green Crawford Gibson Lehner Neuvirth Hellebuyck[NA] get in
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Mar 3, 2016 08:26
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Man, when I said, "I think I'm going for it," I didn't realize you'd all jump in too.
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Mar 3, 2016 15:38
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You try relying on an injured Ryan O'Reilly to get you through the championship
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Mar 3, 2016 15:55
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I'm pretty stoked for next year now that I have Barkov and Domi, and that I can pick two players from a group that includes Lehner, Vasilevskiy, Bennett, Reinhart, and Nylander.
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Mar 3, 2016 17:39
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Okay, opening a goddamn can of worms here, my trade with Hull and Oates (MagicCube?), if it goes through, has a clause to it: He'll get to choose a player for me to draft next year (chosen before/during) costing up to $40 that I'll trade to him after the fact. I'm toxxing myself to this? Can I do that?
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Mar 3, 2016 20:39
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Do you know how hard I would have bought the ultimate team for using next years money and just ran bone dry cause gently caress it won so hard?
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Mar 3, 2016 20:43
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fancy stats posted:Okay, opening a goddamn can of worms here, my trade with Hull and Oates (MagicCube?), if it goes through, has a clause to it: Uhhh -- I dont know. Up to you guys, I guess. I can technically just edit the cap I believe preseason to literally give him the $40 (and you $40 less). If we end up allowing trading cap space I'd probably want to put a cap on it at a certain number (probably $50-$100).
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Mar 3, 2016 21:25
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We discussed trading future cap dollars last season but there was no announcement that it was going to be officially implemented so I assumed it wasn't. So to keep it fair, I think I agree with Veskit. (but I'd support officially adding that option starting next year)
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Mar 3, 2016 21:26
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That seems reasonable to me.
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