Ellen Degeneres: Horizons - AI Now Earns More Than Human Crew

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DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Wait, you can get a bond without picking a side?

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 14:44

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DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

timn posted:

Go try busting up a wing of eagles in a Conda with only fixed lasers and see how much fun that actually is.

I do, and is fun, git gud

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 08:59

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

LCL-Dead posted:

Need video of the Cutter now..

This federal boner bullshit is killing my high..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INLcyPZgY68

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 02:44

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Parallelwoody posted:

DBS conclusion: This ship fucks.

Whoa now!

Oh wait you said fucks

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 09:53

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

A PVP fit conda is not killable by small ships, period.

But I can attest that playing with a silent DBS is fun, and in a wing with bigger ships, you can be the annoying wasp the other side can't see.

Two quick rounds of 2 Hammer and 2 rail can do up to approx 240MJ, so can be enough to get the shields down when they're at the very edge and just charging up the SCB.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 01:02

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Some more info on the impending SCB nerf all you poopsockers are looking forward to:

Sandro Sardino Sarny posted:

Hello Commanders!

As with all changes, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, so we look forward to everyone's feedback once the changes go to live test.

A few points though: the heat generated from using shield cells is based on the rating of the cell bank. Using lower rated cells will give you less heat at the cost of less shield regeneration. And of course, heat sinks are effective at cooling your ship down.

Using a cell every now and again isn't going to do much more than a little bit of module damage from heat, which in general is far better than taking hull damage (and it also plays into module malfunction more). It's also still possible to fit multiple shield cell banks and use them - you will need to manage power more carefully as there's a twenty or so second delay before a shield cell bank boots up after being powered.

The issue with shield cells has primarily been that without any strong restraint or penalty on usage, larger ships with plenty of internals could gain an advantage from them that outweigh most other aspects, making them a de facto choice or path of least resistance.

I don't want to remove them (and if I did, the complaint that large ships will get wrecked would surely be even more persuasive) and I don't want to inflict an arbitrary, hard limit (remember, this is not about creating an even playing field *between* combatants, it's about offering *competitive choices* for combatants). What these changes are for is to see if we can't decrease the effectiveness of shield cells, and especially chaining them, whilst increasing a potential alternative - hull reinforcement.

Now there's an interesting argument/fear about relying on hull rather than shields, which is sub-system sniping.

A little while back, we decreased the size of pretty much all sub-system targets significantly and we stopped the power plant destruction from being an instant kill. Gimbal and turret weapons suffer from inherent confusion, limiting their ability to hit small targets and we reduced the range of most weapon's penetration. Even still, sub-system targeting needs to be useful, otherwise why have it?

So will sub-system sniping become the new path of least resistance if shields break more often? That's something I'd like feedback about from these changes. If it turns out to be the case, we have multiple options to address it: we can increase module health, increase damage reduction for fitting hull reinforcement packages and of course scale back the penalties for shield cells, as well as offer protection from modules with the loot system.

So the point here, as is always the case when we make design tweaks, to try out stuff in anger and get feedback from it that will ultimately help us improve the game.

Do you think he means 20+ seconds from when you press the 'fire SCB' button, or 20+ seconds from when you activate a bunch of SCBs from the module tab on your RH panel?

DarthBlingBling fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Nov 13, 2015

# ¿ Nov 13, 2015 12:46

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

RabidWeasel posted:

Another thing I didn't mention earlier is that base hull strength is now even less important since it's hugely overshadowed by hull reinforcements. For example an Eagle filled up with hull reinforcements has more armour than a stock FAS. So in some aspects this makes the naturally 'hull tanky' ships worse as there's no way to compensate for having poo poo shields. It's probably not even worth fitting shields to some ships now, in terms of pure survivability, though repair costs are obviously a factor.

Operation Powerbottom is back

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 12:47

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

no_recall posted:

Unsure this has been posted before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZAyaGyhiQ0

This made my day.

That man's friend interdicted me last week. We duked it out in our Condas and he eventually won the battle of the SCBs.

Fortunately he didn't kill me after he took out my drives and told me to await his friend who was a Huge Man. Hughmann eventually turned up and opened comms, he sang one of his songs and we chatted. Turns out they were doing some charity stream so my de-panting was watched by a fair few people

# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 19:26

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

How about don't loving do it.

Not enjoying this craze of games that charge for you to be a beta tester (do other games actually do this?) Fair play to them tho that people are willing to pay a premium for it.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 20:15

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

You can't mass lock any ship that's high waking...

# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 01:30

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

I was playing about at our own station in 63 G and noticed we had gimballed C3 pulse.

The outfitting isn't all that bad

# ¿ Nov 30, 2015 13:01

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

You all look like you're having fun.

Kinda excited now

# ¿ Dec 1, 2015 15:11

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Nation posted:

EMERGENCY DISENGAGE

This. See how close you can stop when you're travelling at light speed

# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 18:54

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

They should just let you buy it stripped beyond what's needed to let you take off and land.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 21:33

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

I mean, you can resell components at cost so you basically can plus one step.

I know. Skip the step. I don't think anyone flies out with two lovely c1 pulse lasers unless you're in the starter sidey

# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 21:48

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

13 seasons of King of the Hill and a second monitor is a good podcast

# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 22:49

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Someone at work recommend Dan Carlin; he's pretty interesting.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 23:27

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Update drivers and Direct X would be my only suggestion sorry

# ¿ Dec 6, 2015 18:16

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

HiroProtagonist posted:

Huh. Already killed one and saw absolutely no mission target sign. I'll keep an eye out for it though. Thanks.

The thing about the mission target text, its main distinguishing feature, is that it's black.

And the thing about space, the colour of space, your basic space colour, is that it's black.

Bonus points for the getting the reference

# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 09:51

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Yeah it's a bug. In my opinion, the funniest one.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 10:12

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

They're not all explorer based btw

# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 15:17

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

HiroProtagonist posted:

What about rank progress? Do they have any significant our mentionable effect on whichever one is applicable?

Not really no, as rank progression comes from doing missions. There may be some possible cross over tho

# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 17:01

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

In my opinion, that thing they use for wing member nav locks that auto drags you in when you're 5s away, they should use that for nav locking anything

# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 23:59

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

RearmingStrafbomber posted:

The drifting specks of light sooth the darkness in my heart.

Enough to forget my nightmares.

Oi, you!

What's your colour matrix?

# ¿ Dec 13, 2015 13:53

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Trading is going from a to b then back again, non stop, using one of the online tools if you want to min max. It's far from complex

If you don't mind gimping yourself and want to put a bit of thought in, you could go from station to station and use the 'traders bible', see where you end up.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2015 21:46

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Mitchicon posted:

Will Frontier ever save the FD, or is it always going to be a sad gimmick?

I thought the FAS was intended to be the FD Mk II?

# ¿ Dec 14, 2015 15:55

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

The FD does look kinda cool with the pirate skin, that's a plus I guess

# ¿ Dec 14, 2015 16:27

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Betas are kept on your HD yes, you need to go into the directory and manually delete them.

Maybe the extra bits will allow them the possibility of automatically deleting them?

Unfortunately there was no fallout from the decision to go 64 bit. Was hoping for a wee bit of drama. Maybe some will come later when some people realise they're still running a 32 bit OS and find out you can't just upgrade to a 64 bit version.

DarthBlingBling fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Dec 15, 2015

# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 11:45

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Added 'terrorist' NPC archetype - This could go bad

Also, wtf is a greebal?

# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 14:00

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Mike the TV posted:

64 bit also locks out macs as a platform, so the small percentage of Mac users who play Elite would be poo poo out of luck if the base game upgraded to 64. And the rest of us on PCs would see virtually no discernable difference.

What?

# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 17:25

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Even tho I laugh at people playing on OSX as opposed to just being normal and dual booting. I'm pretty sure since Mavericks it's been 64bit only no?

# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 17:33

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

KakerMix posted:

Don't vape angry

If you do it may lead to embarrassment online and potential erectile distinction

# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 17:40

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHdf_6tILU

Is this a new feature? Rapid launching

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 01:57

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Illuminated Rodent posted:

Also very amused at how the game has gone from released to early access

Cute

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 12:52

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

I meant more the running joke is that the game has yet to ever come out of early access

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 13:08

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Yup. Since release last year the game has been perfect and each point release has just added to this perfection.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 13:51

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

I love the additions for 1.5. My DBS now rocks!

But the planet stuff so far isn't doing it for me, also didn't help my buggy didn't have default bindings and it was not fun setting them up.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 15:47

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

You can delete some of that. The betas don't auto remove once they're finished

# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 13:53

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

http://www.gfycat.com/SmoggyRegularAcornweevil

Horizons

# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 18:15

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DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

cheesetriangles posted:

Is it to late to get the exclusive ship.

What, the Cobra mk IV?

You can have mine if you want, it's poo poo.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 17:34

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