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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

1) is there anything as fabulous and manly as Jojos

Fist of the North Star occasionally comes close.

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GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

1) is there anything as fabulous and manly as Jojos

2) is there anything as feel good as Ore Monogatari without it being like literally nothing happening

3) I wanna watch those weird 90s ovas/ movies that freaked me out as a child with 0 context where do I start

1) Saint Seiya is a fighting anime so fabulous that they bleed neon, and it's so manly that someone gets punched back to life in an early episode, and that's low on the list of wild stuff that happens.

3) Start with the film Neo Tokyo, and follow it up with the entire filmography of Yoshiaki Kawajiri up to 2001.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!
Anybody got any good world-building shows? A lot of shows have interesting settings but never really reach beyond what's going on in front of the main characters's faces at any given point. Whether it's a good old fashioned adventure or just a show that likes to talk about its world a lot, that's the sort of thing I'd like to see. I've watched quite a lot of anime so I might have already watched most of the good examples, but any recommendations are appreciated.

I loved Juuni Kokuki/The Twelve Kingdoms for this, where they took the time to go into detail over stuff as minute as how the government allocates land.

If anybody has any good "let's just go on an adventure" shows that'd be cool too. Shows that are generally fun would be nice too. Just finished rewatching The Tower of Druaga, that show was the best for being fun.

Oh, and to make one last demand, it might be a little simple but anybody know shows with good swordfights? For such a universal protagonist weapon the list of shows with good proper swordfights is awfully low.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Reds posted:

Anybody got any good world-building shows? A lot of shows have interesting settings but never really reach beyond what's going on in front of the main characters's faces at any given point. Whether it's a good old fashioned adventure or just a show that likes to talk about its world a lot, that's the sort of thing I'd like to see.

I loved Juuni Kokuki/The Twelve Kingdoms for this, where they took the time to go into detail over stuff as minute as how the government allocates land.

If anybody has any good "let's just go on an adventure" shows that'd be cool too. Shows that are generally fun would be nice too. Just finished rewatching The Tower of Druaga, that show was the best for being fun.

Oh, and to make one last demand, it might be a little simple but anybody know shows with good swordfights? For such a universal protagonist weapon the list of shows with good proper swordfights is awfully low.

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (especially 2nd GiG) for the first pair, and Samurai Champloo for the last two.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (especially 2nd GiG) for the first pair, and Samurai Champloo for the last two.

Thank ye kindly. GitS is usually one of those things that people usually start with but I still haven't watched it, I should really do that. Gonna watch Champloo after I finally watch Bebop. Been watching anime for two or so years and I still haven't watched a show that's many people's first anime.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

Reds posted:

If anybody has any good "let's just go on an adventure" shows that'd be cool too. Shows that are generally fun would be nice too. Just finished rewatching The Tower of Druaga, that show was the best for being fun.

Oh, and to make one last demand, it might be a little simple but anybody know shows with good swordfights? For such a universal protagonist weapon the list of shows with good proper swordfights is awfully low.

If you've managed to avoid Chaika, that satisfies both of these (well, it's often daggers vs. swords, but the fights are well-choreographed).

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

Reds posted:

Anybody got any good world-building shows? A lot of shows have interesting settings but never really reach beyond what's going on in front of the main characters's faces at any given point. Whether it's a good old fashioned adventure or just a show that likes to talk about its world a lot, that's the sort of thing I'd like to see. I've watched quite a lot of anime so I might have already watched most of the good examples, but any recommendations are appreciated.

And for this half of it.... maybe Legend of the Galactic Space Heroes?

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

If you've managed to avoid Chaika, that satisfies both of these (well, it's often daggers vs. swords, but the fights are well-choreographed).

Yeah, I watched Chaika while it was airing, that first fight with Nikolas (I think that was his name, the guy with the large sword) is a standout fight.

Seirei no Moribito didn't have much action and the protagonist used a spear, but what it did have was fantastic. Great anime in general. Just want to throw that show out there as a general recommendation.

Haven't watched Legend of the Galactic Heroes yet. Even though I watch lots of long anime the hundred-plus episode count is daunting.

Reds fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Sep 24, 2015

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
Other decent world-building:
  • Patlabor OVAs
  • Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (manga, the movie just doesn't have the time for it)
  • ...I feel like there should be more
Katanagatari is fantastic and features really stylish "sword" fighting and good adventure.

Ah, and Rage of Bahamut: Genesis is a really solid adventure show from a year or so back.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

Other decent world-building:
  • Patlabor OVAs
  • Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (manga, the movie just doesn't have the time for it)
  • ...I feel like there should be more
Katanagatari is fantastic and features really stylish "sword" fighting and good adventure.

Ah, and Rage of Bahamut: Genesis is a really solid adventure show from a year or so back.

Watched both, I've watched most of the airing stuff from the last couple of years. Get hyped for Bahamut season 2, coming whenever. Get less hyped for the yuri-bait high school spin-off thing.

Haven't watched Nausicaa though. I've watched Patlabor though.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Reds posted:

Watched both, I've watched most of the airing stuff from the last couple of years. Get hyped for Bahamut season 2, coming whenever. Get less hyped for the yuri-bait high school spin-off thing.

Haven't watched Nausicaa though. I've watched Patlabor though.

Nausicaa is great, but the manga's better. And well worth hunting down the giant two-volume hardcover boxed set.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

The Nausicaa manga is one of the great pieces of world creation in all of science fiction.

It's a decent Ghibli movie, but the manga is on a whole different level.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Nausicaa is great, but the manga's better. And well worth hunting down the giant two-volume hardcover boxed set.

Yes, I keep meaning to buy the Nausicaa manga but I couldn't find it at the last con I went to. Most of the reason why I hadn't watched it was because I wasn't sure if I should read the manga first or not.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

Reds posted:

Yes, I keep meaning to buy the Nausicaa manga but I couldn't find it at the last con I went to. Most of the reason why I hadn't watched it was because I wasn't sure if I should read the manga first or not.

I'd say order doesn't matter, but the manga is absolutely the better experience.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

Reds posted:

Yes, I keep meaning to buy the Nausicaa manga but I couldn't find it at the last con I went to. Most of the reason why I hadn't watched it was because I wasn't sure if I should read the manga first or not.

I read the manga first, so the movie ended up kind of disappointing to me. Which I had a feeling about going in since the manga was so dense.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

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Reds posted:

Anybody got any good world-building shows? A lot of shows have interesting settings but never really reach beyond what's going on in front of the main characters's faces at any given point. Whether it's a good old fashioned adventure or just a show that likes to talk about its world a lot, that's the sort of thing I'd like to see. I've watched quite a lot of anime so I might have already watched most of the good examples, but any recommendations are appreciated.
Seen Kaiba yet, by any chance?

Reds posted:

Yeah, I watched Chaika while it was airing, that first fight with Nikolas (I think that was his name, the guy with the large sword) is a standout fight.

The adaptation of a different book by the same author as with Chaika, Scrapped Princess does some interesting world-building, with another slightly unorthodox interpretation of the generic (fantasy medieval Europe with magic and insane(?) gods and etc) setting.



Comedy suggestion: Kuuchuu Buranko a.k.a. Trapeze... It's exactly like Iron Chef, only not.

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
Oh man, I really, really liked the Nausicaa film so this thread is getting me hyped to read the manga rn

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!
The conundrum for Nausicaa that I had was that I knew that the manga was better, so I wasn't sure whether to watch the movie first where I wouldn't get the "oh this isn't as good as the manga" feeling, but then I wouldn't be able to go into the manga without knowing anything about it.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

Reds posted:

The conundrum for Nausicaa that I had was that I knew that the manga was better, so I wasn't sure whether to watch the movie first where I wouldn't get the "oh this isn't as good as the manga" feeling, but then I wouldn't be able to go into the manga without knowing anything about it.

I'd say go movie first to avoid the this isn't as good as the manga feeling. Then go into the manga and be very surprised when things go a lot deeper than you expected.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The movie is still very much a Ghibli classic and while the start is very close to the manga it's different in enough little ways that you'll still be a little surprised at how things develop early on.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
There's no anime of it (which is a crime), but if you want interesting settings and world-building, Dorohedoro is king of the hill, no doubt.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

HenryEx posted:

There's no anime of it (which is a crime), but if you want interesting settings and world-building, Dorohedoro is king of the hill, no doubt.

I don't think an anime would make justice towards the grungy style of the Manga but seeing Nikaido's body... Oh mama.

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013

Sooo, I actually watched Nisemonogatari. I was ready to skip large chunks of it, given its reputation and, uh, ample warnings given in this thread, but I really liked most of Bakemonogatari, so I thought I'd check this out to get to the second season.

I...

I don't wanna go to jail :qq:

What the gently caress was going on with this? Whoever said this season takes everything bad about the series to 11 was right on the mark. Fanservice becomes scene right out of taboo porn, right down to the ultra-flimsy reasons where the most insane behaviour becomes apparently acceptable. Everybody is now from porn dimension, including (and, in fact, almost exclusively) girls under 16. Sexy dames in trouble is okay with me. But here, every once in a while (or for whole episodes), everybody acts like porn characters and it's ~pedophile time~. Not even just the obvious issues with that: it's contrived, stupid and a waste of time. Just great.

On the other hand: when I wasn't frantically skipping forward, there were some nice action scenes (there's the nauseating brutality I was looking for! Yesssss), and the basic story was actually pretty cool. Oh, and a GREAT "villain". He didn't even do much, but I loved every second that Kakei was on screen. Just the sheer contrast to the other characters! And a rad theme song, too. I hope this guy gets more appearances in the future, he's a joy to behold. In general, I really like this show's approach to conflict - almost no-one "wins" by sheer strength, even the action is basically still talking that has spilled over into violence. Coupled with this show's weird-rear end mythology, it's just fun. If it weren't for the boring aimlessness of the first couple episodes plus the obvious negative of KIDDIE PORN DIMENSION, WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW, it could've been good.


Well, can't say I haven't been warned. If this continues, I'm out for the sake of my sanity, but I still have hope. I'm just too trusting and naive, in this dark, dark world of anime. :sigh:

Gonna have to watch some Fist of the North Star to forget this...

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

Torquemadras posted:

Sooo, I actually watched Nisemonogatari. I was ready to skip large chunks of it, given its reputation and, uh, ample warnings given in this thread, but I really liked most of Bakemonogatari, so I thought I'd check this out to get to the second season.

I...

I don't wanna go to jail :qq:

What the gently caress was going on with this? Whoever said this season takes everything bad about the series to 11 was right on the mark. Fanservice becomes scene right out of taboo porn, right down to the ultra-flimsy reasons where the most insane behaviour becomes apparently acceptable. Everybody is now from porn dimension, including (and, in fact, almost exclusively) girls under 16. Sexy dames in trouble is okay with me. But here, every once in a while (or for whole episodes), everybody acts like porn characters and it's ~pedophile time~. Not even just the obvious issues with that: it's contrived, stupid and a waste of time. Just great.

On the other hand: when I wasn't frantically skipping forward, there were some nice action scenes (there's the nauseating brutality I was looking for! Yesssss), and the basic story was actually pretty cool. Oh, and a GREAT "villain". He didn't even do much, but I loved every second that Kakei was on screen. Just the sheer contrast to the other characters! And a rad theme song, too. I hope this guy gets more appearances in the future, he's a joy to behold. In general, I really like this show's approach to conflict - almost no-one "wins" by sheer strength, even the action is basically still talking that has spilled over into violence. Coupled with this show's weird-rear end mythology, it's just fun. If it weren't for the boring aimlessness of the first couple episodes plus the obvious negative of KIDDIE PORN DIMENSION, WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW, it could've been good.


Well, can't say I haven't been warned. If this continues, I'm out for the sake of my sanity, but I still have hope. I'm just too trusting and naive, in this dark, dark world of anime. :sigh:

Gonna have to watch some Fist of the North Star to forget this...

The good news is, you're over the hump. The rest of the ~gataris are tame in comparison. Nise is both the weirdest and weakest in my opinion, but it's got necessary setup for the later stuff, which you should watch.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Torquemadras posted:

Sooo, I actually watched Nisemonogatari. I was ready to skip large chunks of it, given its reputation and, uh, ample warnings given in this thread, but I really liked most of Bakemonogatari, so I thought I'd check this out to get to the second season.

I...

I don't wanna go to jail :qq:

What the gently caress was going on with this? Whoever said this season takes everything bad about the series to 11 was right on the mark. Fanservice becomes scene right out of taboo porn, right down to the ultra-flimsy reasons where the most insane behaviour becomes apparently acceptable. Everybody is now from porn dimension, including (and, in fact, almost exclusively) girls under 16. Sexy dames in trouble is okay with me. But here, every once in a while (or for whole episodes), everybody acts like porn characters and it's ~pedophile time~. Not even just the obvious issues with that: it's contrived, stupid and a waste of time. Just great.

On the other hand: when I wasn't frantically skipping forward, there were some nice action scenes (there's the nauseating brutality I was looking for! Yesssss), and the basic story was actually pretty cool. Oh, and a GREAT "villain". He didn't even do much, but I loved every second that Kakei was on screen. Just the sheer contrast to the other characters! And a rad theme song, too. I hope this guy gets more appearances in the future, he's a joy to behold. In general, I really like this show's approach to conflict - almost no-one "wins" by sheer strength, even the action is basically still talking that has spilled over into violence. Coupled with this show's weird-rear end mythology, it's just fun. If it weren't for the boring aimlessness of the first couple episodes plus the obvious negative of KIDDIE PORN DIMENSION, WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW, it could've been good.


Well, can't say I haven't been warned. If this continues, I'm out for the sake of my sanity, but I still have hope. I'm just too trusting and naive, in this dark, dark world of anime. :sigh:

Gonna have to watch some Fist of the North Star to forget this...

Kaiki is really the best. Now you know what I meant by "toothbrush scene". :v:


THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

2) is there anything as feel good as Ore Monogatari without it being like literally nothing happening

Usagi Drop. Just watch the anime. Don't read the manga. :tinfoil:

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
I'll just keep thinking of Nisemonogatari as the season that gave me Kaiki Deishu and Platinum Disco.

I don't think you'll have to worry too much with Nekomonogatari. If you were fine with the cat girl Hanekawa fanservice in Bake, it's all just that.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Torquemadras is platinum mad

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Can anyone recommend a fun shounen show that's on Crunchyroll? I've seen HunterxHunter and Magi, both of which I liked. I still occasionally watch One Piece despite how much I think the pacing is rubbish. Jojo's fun too if you consider that shounen. I've seen enough of Bleach and Naruto to know that it's not really my thing.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Jimbot posted:

Can anyone recommend a fun shounen show that's on Crunchyroll? I've seen HunterxHunter and Magi, both of which I liked. I still occasionally watch One Piece despite how much I think the pacing is rubbish. Jojo's fun too if you consider that shounen. I've seen enough of Bleach and Naruto to know that it's not really my thing.

SAINT SEIYA SOUL OF GOLD

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

Jimbot posted:

Can anyone recommend a fun shounen show that's on Crunchyroll? I've seen HunterxHunter and Magi, both of which I liked. I still occasionally watch One Piece despite how much I think the pacing is rubbish. Jojo's fun too if you consider that shounen. I've seen enough of Bleach and Naruto to know that it's not really my thing.

Gintama if you're up for something more comedic. Rurouni Kenshi is a classic if you haven't already seen it. Just stop after the Kyoto arc because there's nothing watching after Kyoto.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
Ushio and Tora is airing this season and reminds me a lot of Yu Yu Hakusho, it's real good!

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!

Jimbot posted:

Can anyone recommend a fun shounen show that's on Crunchyroll? I've seen HunterxHunter and Magi, both of which I liked. I still occasionally watch One Piece despite how much I think the pacing is rubbish. Jojo's fun too if you consider that shounen. I've seen enough of Bleach and Naruto to know that it's not really my thing.

Nanatsu no Taizai/The Seven Deadly Sins is loads of fun and is nicely animated and paced. When it was airing I felt it didn't really get going until Ban showed up which is four or five episodes in but once it gets into its groove it doesn't stop.

And like Devil Tesla said there's Ushio to Tora, which is basically a time-displaced nineties shounen on account of being an adaptation of an early nineties shounen manga.

Zero_Tactility
Nov 25, 2007

Look into my eyes.

The Devil Tesla posted:

Ushio and Tora is airing this season and reminds me a lot of Yu Yu Hakusho, it's real good!
I'm having a lot of fun with this too and agree with the recommendation.

Tora's p. great

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Thanks for the recommendations. I'll give them a shot.

I saw that Saint Seiya recommendation is like a side story thing. I know absolutely nothing about that franchise, will I be lost if I jumped into it?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Oh yeah you should watch the original first definitely.

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013

So, I've finally graduated from a lengthy stay in hospital, mostly spent immobile, to a lengthy stay at home, mostly to be spent immobile. Can even work again somewhat. So, to celebrate my glorious return to somewhat everyday life, I was being a useless piece of poo poo and watched all of Nekomonogatari + some of Katanagatari + three episodes of Monogatari 2nd season. Time well spent.

First, right away: I lost interest in Katanagatari after the first episode... and I lost it again after the fourth. The banter between the characters gets better (I particularly enjoyed their lengthy chat over which catchphrase to pick :allears: ), but I'm not very taken with the more emotional parts of the episodes. And after four episodes, I feel like the shtick of this series is subverting expectations in the most underwhelming way possible. I mean, that's nice and all, it's just... sheer disappointment, all the time. It felt less clever and more lazy. ("My thousand sword technique is unbeatable! Look at how I prepared the battlefield! ...or run away while I monologue, I guess") I suppose it's obvious by now that you don't really watch this show for the incredible action, but the rest doesn't interest me enough to make up for it. Meh.

As for Nekomonogatari: well, it's no Nise! I'd say "return to form", if I wasn't so sure the creators knew perfectly well what the hell they were doing with Nisemonogatari. Very cool stuff. Some more appearances for noted cool guy Oshino, some stupid over-the-top violence, the most :black101: plan to sacrifice your own life, and the cat apparition itself is fun as well. And what I've seen of the 2nd season so far is really, really good - Senjogahara being a dork who violently owns everyone forever in particular.
I'll forgive you, Monogatari. I forgive you :qq:

Cake Attack posted:

Torquemadras is platinum mad

gently caress. Owned again

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


I forgot to cancel my Crunchyroll trial so I'd appreciate a couple more recommendations.

Has there been anything like Code Geass or Death Note (smart MC, lots of plans, etc) released in the last couple of years?

I also want to watch (or read) things that make me cry of happiness/heartwarming like the last episode of My Love Story!! or the episode where Sawako reconciles with Yano and Yoshida (volume 2 of the manga).

Thanks!

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

gmq posted:

I forgot to cancel my Crunchyroll trial so I'd appreciate a couple more recommendations.

Has there been anything like Code Geass or Death Note (smart MC, lots of plans, etc) released in the last couple of years?

I also want to watch (or read) things that make me cry of happiness/heartwarming like the last episode of My Love Story!! or the episode where Sawako reconciles with Yano and Yoshida (volume 2 of the manga).

Thanks!

The World God Only Knows has a scheming protagonist. There's an unfortunate gap between the second and third seasons where they just skipped over material, but what's there is great fun.

For heartwarming, check the single dad manga thread or watch Non Non Biyori.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
ShiroBako is heartwarming as hell despite tackling some tough stuff. Sound! Euphonium might scratch that itch as well.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Barakmon is another really, really great heartwarming CR rec though sadly I think there are weird licensing restrictions with it for some reason so it might not be available in your region.

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