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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
| Total: | 1326 votes | ||
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Nov 2, 2015 05:28
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New Leaf posted:Real talk - in the new "multiple universes" Super developments, where does that put Future Trunks' timeline? Does it constitute its own universe, or is it a splinter universe of the main timeline? If this is the case, does his splinter have its own multiple universes with other Gods of Destruction? Alternate timelines are splinters. And people like Jaco are supposed to stop that from happening.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:29
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Yeah, the latest manga says that Champa is weaker (probably due to being lazier), but Valdos is probably stronger than Whis.
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Nov 9, 2015 19:01
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I like that Vegeta/Goku are now just Krillen/Goku back from early Dragon Ball.
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Nov 11, 2015 15:33
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NikkolasKing posted:1. More people in America are familiar with Z. I'd say Freeza or Saiyan are "darker" than Cell. I'm basing this on the amount of times defenseless people were getting the crap kicked out of them and how many times the MAIN kid character (Gohan) got beat up. Nobody cares much about Yamcha or random NPCs getting killed, but the most brutal beatdowns are in Saiyan and Freeza.
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Nov 13, 2015 15:53
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He's to where he was in the movie now, though. I think they were just trying to make him an actual villain to benefit things being stretched out so many episodes, as opposed to a 1 and a half hour movie where you had no problem with a guy who obviously wasn't going to blow up the planet play fighting Goku.
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Nov 14, 2015 15:42
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Blockhouse posted:I don't think they did a very good job of it. Now the whole thing just looks like his characterization shifts for no real reason. His characterization shifted to yet another bad guy Goku made friends with by punching him in the face enough like all of his other friends 
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Nov 14, 2015 19:09
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Yup. having Ginyu/Trunks/Goten in it makes this better than the movie, never mind fixing up all the power relation goofs by removing power level crap statements. edit: So do they go blue by punching each other really hard? Darko fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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Nov 15, 2015 18:20
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Raxivace posted:Didn't Shenron only grant two wishes in the movie as well? Yeah he granted two only in the movie, but it looks like they made some edits here. There were also small fixes by not mentioning things like Freezas new guys only being as strong as Zarbon or Dodoria or whatever as well.
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Nov 15, 2015 18:25
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Seriously, if Freeza meets Kid Trunks, it will make all of this worth it.
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Nov 15, 2015 18:27
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The end of the Beerus fight wasn't about Goku discovering a new power as much as him completely learning how to manage god power. The Beerus fight was more like training for Goku than a major antagonist fight, since the whole fight, Beerus was attempting to push Goku to become a worthy adversary for him. Him threatening the planet was just him trying to force Goku to be better and make him actually fight. The show extended that by 30 minutes, but it's still there. That's a huge difference from Piccolo/Vegeta/Freeza/etc. where they were fighting for more than entertainment.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:38
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Ytlaya posted:If the DBZ characters were really as fast as they should be (given that Goku/Piccolo were already moving too fast to see in their first fight), each battle would basically just be a loud popping sound. That is what happens. Only people as fast can see it, for the most part. That was shown like 20 different times. Only time regular people see anything is the tournaments and they normally see the result of an action and not the action when people are going all out. Oh, and Mr. Satan because he's the best fighter.
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Nov 18, 2015 17:06
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So we know most of team Universe 7 now: Goku Vegeta Piccolo Buu The mysterious strongest person Beerus ever fought, who isn't Whis Some more funny things in there: Vegeta suggested putting Gohan on the team because he has the most potential, but Goku says all Gohan wants to do is study now and not fight, and to just let him do that and not get involved. Vegeta made it so the tournament needs people to pass a written test to join so that mindless monsters don't join. And it has Budokai rules.
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Nov 18, 2015 17:25
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The current lineup works for the funniest interactions, really.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:21
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mabels big day posted:If they need to pass a written test, then how can Goku join? He can probably write his name. And Mr. Satan can teach Buu, which is hilarious. The idea there is to make sure the tournament has a bunch of people that can all actually interact, I think. No Kid Buus or Yakons or Janenbas; everyone can have dialogue and communicate.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:22
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Kild posted:Wasn't Goku suppose to be the strongest guy that ever fought Beerus? Nah, Whis said that Beerus hadn't had that much fun in 900 years or something. Whis was supposed to be the strongest, but this guy may be more powerful than him. I like how the Mr. is redundant in the Satan/Buu fusion idea.
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Nov 19, 2015 00:35
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I just want a random unexplained Freeza styled training where they somehow convince Buu to train and he is as strong as everyone else.
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Nov 19, 2015 01:35
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TheKingofSprings posted:I want the last guy to be Beerus wearing a pair of sunglasses and in a black and white martial arts outfit That would honestly be so Toriyama and great.
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Nov 19, 2015 02:20
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Tenshinhan has no interest in romance...with people that aren't Chiatzu or however you spell his name now.
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Nov 23, 2015 17:42
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I liked some of the Beerus fight better in Super and other parts better in the movie. In fact, the quality of the retread varies wildly from episode to episode. I thought that was the general consensus before the Internet apparently changed, some of it is good, some of it is bad into "it all sucks."
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Nov 24, 2015 22:08
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These changes to Revival F are fantastic. Can't wait for next episode - Freeza DOES get to see Trunks since Goten/Trunks/Gotenks are getting involved, Ginyu is back and involved, and they fixed the "power level" stuff (having someone actually training with Freeza to make them formidable as opposed to whatever the hell happened in the movie).
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Nov 29, 2015 14:59
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's good that Tagoma us strong as hell as a by product of Frieza's training, even though it stretches disbelief. Gohan being a super jobber is never going to end, even though he should god-stomp all 1000, including this stronger Tagoma without a second thought. Gohan becoming the new Yamcha makes me laugh now, so I'm fine with it.
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Nov 29, 2015 16:43
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Mr Interweb posted:So just saw the most recent episode and just like with RoF, it's aggravating to watch the fights unfold. There's no reason why most of the Z-fighters present should be struggling as much as they're doing with these scrubs. You could POSSIBLY argue that at least in Gohan's case, he's holding back cause he doesn't actually want to kill them, but Piccolo shouldn't have the same problem. They're actually fixing that part of the movie; I think you're watching it wrong. Tenshinhan and Piccolo are having no real problems with anyone. Gohan definitely isn't. The only person struggling at all is Roshi. Jaco only takes out one guy. This is different than the movie where they were flying around fighting for like 15 minutes with Roshi and Gohan expending like the same effort. How much more powerful they were is shown by the Krillen PTSD scene. Krillen dodges them effortlessly without really paying any attention at all once he's actually attacked. It's also shown by Gohan, where, without powering up or going super at all, the second best guy's bearhug doesn't even phase him at all. With Tagoma, just give him the bullshit Saiyan powerup brink of death thing (they don't necessarily have to be the only ones that have it). Freeza's training was specifically shown to be kicking Tagoma's rear end over and over again to the brink of death and him healing and repeat. If you handwave him as also having the Saiyan bullshit gene then 4 months straight of that, every day, by a much more powerful opponent (since that always scaled to who they were fighting at the time) got him to be around Buu level. The scouter only says he's "above the Ginyu force." That's without him powering up, as Goten/Trunks only seem to notice him once he actually powers up. Attacks are controlled in Dragon Ball. They normally do something to show you what they can do uncontrolled (ie. breaking apart the entire universe), and then show that they can negate the destruction or focus the energy when they're actually fighting and don't want to blow up everything around them. Super had an entire episode set up to basically explain that they are universal level now but learn how to control collateral damage while doing stuff.
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Nov 30, 2015 05:23
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I bet you Ginyu doesn't even hop into him, but misses and goes into a random mook who gets his head blown off.
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Nov 30, 2015 16:06
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They didn't even do that. Not a single 'Z Fighter' powered up during that fight except Roshi, I believe. They were as casual as you could get, which is why the kids didn't even notice anything was going on.
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Nov 30, 2015 17:43
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Kamehamehas are always spheres with a trail of energy behind them. When they have those big rear end beam battles, they're constantly pumping more energy into the main sphere.
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Nov 30, 2015 18:00
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I never heard about the ki attack, but Mr. Satan and his master were hanging around and made fun of Tao's hair, and his master got killed is the long and short I've heard of it from one of the side guides.
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Dec 1, 2015 20:20
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Mr. Satan also has comic relief powers that is a throwback to early Dragon Ball with Goku breaking the third wall and tossing Boss Rabbit to the moon and stuff that makes him pretty much invincible in the scheme of things, so it's only as much of a joke as his character is purposely made to be.
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Dec 1, 2015 21:38
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I thought Roshi came to bring senzus and then just ended up being stuck there, only to show he had been working out. Or was that the manga adaptation of the movie?
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Dec 4, 2015 16:32
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It's weird that although Super is a retread, I have no idea what is going to happen at this point because everything is so different.
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Dec 6, 2015 16:49
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Movie characters are more stupidly powerful than show characters (shooting kamehamehas that are like hundreds of times faster than light and go through and punch through the sun in a few seconds, fighting in IT, villains simply ignoring full power kamehamehas to the face), so it's kind of pointless to gauge movie characters to points in the show.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:01
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projecthalaxy posted:Am I misremembering or didn't Frieza completely no-sell the Kaio-Ken x20 Kamehameha? Freeza put all of his power into blocking it and got singed and hurt from it. Similarly, Cell got completely screwed up by weaker Vegeta's "everything he's got" Big Bang Attack. A lot of the movie villains can put no effort into defense and just walk through everyone's strongest attacks like paper. It's a big part of the series that people have to be able to consciously block attacks, even from weaker characters, for the most part. That's the whole part of the Goku gets blasted by ring part of Revival F and what Whis was teaching him. The movies create villains so powerful that they even ignore that, and will ignore every single attack until the very end where someone eats a spirit bomb or absorbs weaker people's ki, or ghost Goku comes and helps. It gets to be kind of annoying because it makes the fights kind of pointless since they don't have the back and forth or stakes the actual manga has. If it happened once, it's fine, but it happened like 4 times and got old. Darko fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 17:45
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Honestly, a lot of the Internet questions about Goku being hurt by a ring or Gohan's arm being broken by Super Perfect Cell wouldn't even be questions if Toei didn't keep throwing in "this person is so powerful they don't even have to block" in all the movies and the filler (destructo disc on Cell being a prime example).
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Dec 10, 2015 18:23
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Covok posted:Yeah, it's a disconnect between Manga and anime that really causes some confusions. Same thing with how other world is handled. Just like Saiyan's default durability is way above humans in that they say "ow" when shot by machine guns, Freeza's is probably even higher to a degree that you need a ton of energy to breach it since he takes a lot more to kill and can survive being in pieces anyway. Random mooks probably can't even do it with their ultra weak blasts, and people like Ginyu are so loyal that they wouldn't bother.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:37
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The Cell/Gohan question is pretty much answered in that a weakened Gohan still overpowered Cell's kamehameha once his dead dad convinced him to finally stop holding back. Gohan was holding back the entire time because he was scared of blowing up the planet himself, so that fight is really hard to gauge.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:39
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mmkay posted:Gohan put basically his whole energy, since he reverted back to base after the duel ended (earlier when Cell apparently died, he only reverted back to regular SSJ), straight at a distracted Cell (who was faring much better during the duel). And it's not like we didn't see stronger people being defeated by a weaker person's ki blast (like Raditz). The thing with Gohan was that it was a life or death struggle with the same blasts going against each other, and Cell's distraction was tiny. You basically had 75% of Gohan holding back SPC's kamehameha and losing, his dead dad gave him a pep talk, and Vegeta did the equivalent of throwing a rock at Cell to give him a little bit of distraction, with Gohan releasing all of his power at that moment to overpower Cell. Cell -was- pushing back everything he had left at Gohan, but the intent looks like the momentum plus the power gave him the win. Since Gohan was weakened there, a fully powered one should have probably been more powerful, although not -that- much. I agree the difference was small, but I don't think it was equal, either. And like you said, the anime skews it ridiculously in Cell's favor, since everyone was doing full out blasts at his back (while he was not blocking, again), and he was fighting them off with ki from his back while blasting Gohan.
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Dec 10, 2015 19:11
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That little guy on Team Universe 7 looks hilarious, and it goes right along with the Toriyama "the goofiest looking assholes are the most powerful" thing.
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Dec 15, 2015 16:24
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Flippinlikebirds posted:It annoys me that they are wasting a spot on Buu. Should have been Gotenks. Buu has the potential for more interesting stuff than Gotenks. Candy beams, general malleability, childish temper as opposed to childish goofiness, etc.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:45
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This latest episode of Super is the overall worst animated episode of Dragon Ball I've seen, and I'm not exaggerating at all. And it's basically complete filler. Basically watch Goku go SSG and skip the rest of the episode. edit: And Vegeta smiling and clapping. Darko fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Dec 20, 2015 16:10
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Mr Interweb posted:Also, TFS has some pretty terrible taste. Putting that lovely movie with Vegeta's brother in the top 15 above movies like Tree of Might, Lord Slug, and the first Brolly movie? You don't like "Yo! Son Goku?" Slice of life Dragon Ball is the best, and that was pretty much entirely slice of life, and also segued into the current tone of the series (everyone was in character, unlike those movies).
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Dec 21, 2015 15:43
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