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I genuinely can't figure this out. He puts out these blatantly pro big business proposals without even bothering to spin them for the working and middle class. And he keeps bragging about beating the protesters and winning the recall election, when really that just says he's divisive and not that popular in his own state. He even tried to take credit for the occupy movement (via state workers protests). Then he goes after the trump vote by saying he'd repeal birthright citizenship and built a wall to stop Canadians from crossing the border. He's also recently co opted the magic word theory of counter terrorism that Ted Cruz has been pushing. And on top of all that he has no charisma and looks like a cross eyed doofus.
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If you give him millions of dollars he'll do whatever you tell him to.
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Sep 17, 2015 12:28
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he's got a face that only picasso could draw
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Sep 17, 2015 12:42
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Hybrid children watch the sea Pray for Father, roaming free
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he has no appeal so like the underlying assumption of your question is faulty hth
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Sep 17, 2015 13:26
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His 60s output was good.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:he has no appeal so like the underlying assumption of your question is faulty hth Yea apparently not much given his polling is nearing negative numbers.
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Sep 17, 2015 16:37
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He was anti union back when nobody had a job
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Sep 17, 2015 16:47
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He's a College drop out Packer fan who loves guns, rides a motorcycle, and hates nerds. That's half of Wisconsin right there.
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Sep 17, 2015 17:57
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Sep 17, 2015 17:58
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All Americans are only temporarily poor or disenfranchised. If only big government was a little more business friendly, we'd all be millionaires. Walker 2016
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Sep 17, 2015 21:29
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He hates liberals and unions and so do his petty stupid hateful supporters.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:44
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He pushed hardline conservative reforms in a Blueish state and won a tough re-election. You live on another planet if you think Republicans don't want a divisive candidate - the current front runner wants to deport 12 million people on the first day of his presidency. Be glad Walker is turning out to be kinda unlikable on a national stage because if he had a bit more charisma I could see the establishment GOP switching their support to him now that Jeb! is cratering. Fortunately he's probably a bit too mean and dorky looking to win a general election but it's no mystery why conservatives would like him.
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Sep 17, 2015 22:11
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Helsing posted:He pushed hardline conservative reforms in a Blueish state and won a tough re-election. You live on another planet if you think Republicans don't want a divisive candidate - the current front runner wants to deport 12 million people on the first day of his presidency. If any Republican is elected president they're gonna rubber stamp whatever disgusting poo poo the GOP house sends up to them anyway. Walker isn't going to be any better/worse than the field at large. I just dislike him more than the rest because he happened to my state.
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Helsing posted:He pushed hardline conservative reforms in a Blueish state and won a tough re-election. You live on another planet if you think Republicans don't want a divisive candidate - the current front runner wants to deport 12 million people on the first day of his presidency. Okay, so I forgot how the base actually wants a divisive candidate, but he's neither angry enough for the base nor friendly enough for the general election, and his policies aren't drastically different than some of the other candidates but he states them so plainly that only members of the "job creator" class class would find them appealing. I guess both he and Jeb have more money than people behind them at this point, but Walker doesn't have Jeb's brand recognition nor his charm (what little he has). I mean, Jeb is a nerd, but Walker is just a dork. At any rate, Donald Trump's popularity seems to disprove the notion that the base is looking for a True Fiscal Conservative. Nouvelle Vague posted:His 60s output was good. Agreed. Did you hear his recent collab with sunn O))))?
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Sep 18, 2015 02:18
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He wants to lower government spending, and some people think lowering government spending will increase their quality of life.
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Sep 21, 2015 07:23
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he isnt jeb bush and has establishment backing hth
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Sep 21, 2015 07:25
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He's been slobbin that Reagan knob for like 30 years which is apparently a Republican debate metric
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Sep 21, 2015 14:52
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he doesn't make you feel real stupid when you talk to him!!!!
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OP, do you have any FB friends or relatives who post memes about people on welfare? Or an Uncle who belonged to a union for 20 years, but just HATES Obama and think that the NEA is essentially a bunch of Hitlers? There's Scott Walker's base.
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a helpful bear posted:he doesn't make you feel real stupid when you talk to him!!!! I feel more stupid whenever I listen to him.
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railroad terror posted:OP, do you have any FB friends or relatives who post memes about people on welfare? Or an Uncle who belonged to a union for 20 years, but just HATES Obama and think that the NEA is essentially a bunch of Hitlers? Actually SW is polling at 0%, he literally has no base.
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Sep 21, 2015 15:54
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waiting for this idiot to drop out and die in a motorcycle accident
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Sep 21, 2015 16:58
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Its his hair
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Sep 21, 2015 17:00
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Top City Homo posted:waiting for this idiot to drop out and die in a motorcycle accident But if he hits his head again, he'll go completely bald this time.
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Top City Homo posted:waiting for this idiot to drop out and die in a motorcycle accident zen death robot posted:Apparently he asked his staff the same question and decided to drop out, OP in his words, to make room for another "true conservative"
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Sep 22, 2015 00:20
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Hilario Baldness posted:He wants to lower government spending, and some people think lowering government spending will increase their quality of life. 'keep the government off my medicare!' I still laugh about this one.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:34
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Colbert's Hunger Games rip on Walker dropping out will be the peak of his coverage
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Sep 22, 2015 00:51
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:he has no appeal so like the underlying assumption of your question is faulty hth nailed it
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:in his words, to make room for another "true conservative" He's telling his 0% share of the voters not to vote for Trump. A bold gesture, let's see if it pays off.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:in his words, to make room for another "true conservative" "positive conservative influence" actually, which is a pretty great oxymoron even if it does sum up how the establishment sees Trump (too negative an influence to be spin-doctored out)
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Okay, so I forgot how the base actually wants a divisive candidate, but he's neither angry enough for the base nor friendly enough for the general election, and his policies aren't drastically different than some of the other candidates but he states them so plainly that only members of the "job creator" class class would find them appealing. The guy I knew who was most excited about Walker was a movie director and screen writer who would claim that they are 'fiscally conservative and socially liberal' and who really just saw Walker as a guy with a track record of going into a relatively Liberal state and "standing up" to the unions there. I think the person who compared him to Huntsman from last time around was spot on: he was exciting to a certain kind of intellectual conservative who fetishes "tough decisions" on fiscal policy but who thinks all the race baiting and social conservatism of the GOP is a mildly regrettable but necessary step in getting through to the Great Unwashed. Turns out the GOP base had different ideas this time around.
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SedanChair posted:But if he hits his head again, he'll go completely bald this time. 
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This is why I don't really get the crying over citizens united. Sure less money would be great but it's hardly the silver bullet these days. Unlimited Koch money got the dude jack loving poo poo. Bernster is doing just fine, nowadays with a competent campaign staff you can really stretch dollars if you actually have a good message with supporters willing to back you up with their time. Plus social media allows you to reach out for cheaper than ever. I honestly suspect that even if Lessig got his dream with not much would change at all, at the end of the day without completely gutting the first amendment money is going to exert their power one way or another and it's kinda naive to think otherwise. It's not even a money=speech thing these days. TROIKA CURES GREEK has issued a correction as of 04:12 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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Helsing posted:The guy I knew who was most excited about Walker was a movie director and screen writer who would claim that they are 'fiscally conservative and socially liberal' and who really just saw Walker as a guy with a track record of going into a relatively Liberal state and "standing up" to the unions there. I really don't think he's anything like Huntsman and I doubt very much he shared any significant % of supporters. I don't think SW really even had a base outside of WI to be honest, his polling was pure name recognition, which is pretty much the complete opposite of Huntsmans deal. Republicans outside of WI were vaguely aware that he was the dude that showed the unions whats what but as soon as they actually saw him speak his support vanished completely.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:This is why I don't really get the crying over citizens united. Sure less money would be great but it's hardly the silver bullet these days. Unlimited Koch money got the dude jack loving poo poo. Bernster is doing just fine, nowadays with a competent campaign staff you can really stretch dollars if you actually have a good message with supporters willing to back you up with their time. Plus social media allows you to reach out for cheaper than ever. The Kochs hadn't committed all their money yet. They were waiting to make sure their chosen candidate wouldn't just lay a turd and waste all of the funds they gave him.
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According to this article, Walker potentially did have a niche, but it's gone now. http://www.vox.com/2015/9/22/9370841/walker-drops-out-immigration Then again, even the most ignorant among the base probably saw through his flip flopping on immigration.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:This is why I don't really get the crying over citizens united. Sure less money would be great but it's hardly the silver bullet these days. Unlimited Koch money got the dude jack loving poo poo. Bernster is doing just fine, nowadays with a competent campaign staff you can really stretch dollars if you actually have a good message with supporters willing to back you up with their time. Plus social media allows you to reach out for cheaper than ever. Walker's collapse proves that if you're an idiot you'll run your campaign dry come hell or high water. He staffed up like his announcement contributions would continue forever. If he had a hint of fiscal ability and understood simple business concepts like cash flow he would still be in the race in January. It also doesn't help that he had the unfortunate combination of: 1) Looking like an idiot 2) Sounding like an idiot 3) Being an idiot Unlimited Super PAC contributions are a huge asset to those who would be effective candidates without them. Those who would fail spectacularly without them won't be saved by them.
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Sep 23, 2015 04:13
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Helsing posted:The guy I knew who was most excited about Walker was a movie director and screen writer who would claim that they are 'fiscally conservative and socially liberal' and who really just saw Walker as a guy with a track record of going into a relatively Liberal state and "standing up" to the unions there. Wait, what. A director and screenwriter? I would imagine he is a part of SAG and all the other unions that depend on each other for Hollywood to even function. This would be like a black KKK guy. I suppose there has got to be at least one out there. I guess Reagan was in a union for his entire life, but he also praised them during that time. He only busted up the airline one because he was pissed, not because he was inherently anti-union.
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When you think about it, hitting your head so hard that your hair falls out might explain some things about him.
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