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It was my least favourite so far this season, but I wasn't about to call it A Bad Episode.
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They better tone back the Clara Super Spy crap becuase that's what lost me with Martha.
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Nov 4, 2015 14:46
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I liked the episode because Clara might be dead.
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Nov 5, 2015 01:31
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CobiWann posted:I don't think he's been a passive observer - there have been times where he's not as active/running about as Ten and Eleven - but there has been a lot of talking and planning on his part. I don't know if I should chalk it up to Capaldi being a bit older than most actors who have played the Doctor, but has anyone else noticed a...lower energy or more detached Twelve this series? Well isn't that how the series opened? The Doctor is melancholy (I typed "depressed" and it felt wrong) and writing his will? Anyway, I like Capaldi's energy level. Before his casting had been announced I had been hoping for some grey hair in the tardis because we had just sat through two runs of boyish heartthrob Doctors. A bit of broodiness and introspection shapes the character differently and allows contrast with previous series. As it's an adventure show though, it still requires some protagonist activity, and that's falling to the companion. When it comes down to it, that's Doctor Who's real strength as a property - it has the built-in option of rebuilding it to freshen things up every few years, as to explore things from slightly different languages. No other show can do that.
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Nov 6, 2015 14:40
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It was delivered well, it had the political understanding of an angry libertarian teenager.  Because people just go do "War" because they want "war." No, states go to war because they have specific greviances and desires which have not been resolved through diplomatic channels. But this isn't the thread for that.Anyway. I thought Capaldi was good, but the content of the speech mediocre, and the bad guy Zygon was pretty bad. I actually cringed a bit at the final endpoint of the episode with the Osgoods. I skipped a few pages of the thread to ask this question because I need to catch a bus: If the Truth and Consequences, NM thing was just a recent development in the "Truce" situation, why were the buttons labelled that way?
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Nov 10, 2015 14:46
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Good episode. Second the "copy and paste" on the Clara death scene. Was it my imagination or do her eyes look really wonky in that last bit? Anyway, I had expected there to be a Unit/Tower of London bend in this ep b/c of the "Raven" thing in the title.
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Nov 22, 2015 20:58
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I just like watching Doctor Who 
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Nov 23, 2015 20:04
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I'm watching The Chase / Journey Into Terror right now and the idea of a "custom scary house" seems to anticipate what happened in that confession dial somehow. Not sure if there's any connections that can (or should) be drawn from it, but  It's just interesting to me I guess given all of the speculation that's happening.
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Dec 2, 2015 00:49
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Since we're talking about "what to watch" I'm going to share something I made a bit ago, shortly before I started following this thread in fact. I was gushing to a friend of mine about how much I was enjoying this season and he asked for some recommendations of Eccleston, Tennant, and Smith episodes. He has no regard for continuity or spoilers - he just wanted pure entertainment in 2-3 eps per season which showed something of the show's range (which imo is the best part of Doctor Who - it has the freedom to explore any sci fi premise). These are also slightly tailored to his particular taste (he loves Borges, Chesterton, and Lovecraft, just to give an idea of his personality). Here's what I came up with in about 10 minutes: Season 1 (2005) Required Viewing eps 9/10 - "The Empty Child" + "The Doctor Dances" Suggested Viewing ep 6 - "Dalek" Season 2 Required Viewing ep 2 - "Tooth and Claw" Suggested Viewing eps 8/9 - "The Impossible Planet" + "The Satan Pit" Season 3 (2007) Required Viewing ep 10 - "Blink" Suggested Viewing 178 (ep nil) "The Runaway Bride" Season 4 (2008) Required Viewing ep 8-9 "Silence in the Library" + "The Forest of the Dead" Suggested Viewing ep 2 "The Fires of Pompeii" Special 201/3 - "The Waters of Mars" (November 2009) Season 5 (2010) Required Viewing ep 1 "The Eleventh Hour" Suggested Viewing (this season is one that has some solid continuity, and it's hard to make a recommendation - these four are great together. You'll like the takeaway) ep 8-9 "The Hungry Earth" + "Cold Blood" ep 12-13 "The Pandorica Opens" + "The Big Bang" Season 6 (2011) Suggested Ep 5-6 "The Rebel Flesh" + "The Almost People" Required ep 8 "Let's Kill Hitler" Season 7 (2012-13) Suggested Ep 1 "Asylum of the Daleks" Ep 3 "A Town called Mercy Ep 7 "The Rings of Akhaten" (note to SA - I added this after the fact because he had seen a still and was curious about what was happening in this shot of Matt Smith staring down a cosmic-sized hate demon thing, and I confirmed that it is indeed a good episode) Required Ep 9 "Hide"
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Dec 3, 2015 15:59
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Fil5000 posted:what I actually kinda like this episode, so I don't quite get the hate for it around here. The premise of the time travel allowing that weird family structure is also selected for his taste.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:06
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Paul.Power posted:WHAT I wanted him to get the Last Centurion into the list, but I couldn't figure out how to give that to him without Rory's erasure. To be honest now that I take a look at those episode summaries, I think I just took a quick look to remind myself of where Rory's erasure happened without looking at the rest of what actually goes on in those episodes. e. I have to admit that I found it challenging to pick Smith-era episodes that stand alone but also have the really cool stuff.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:27
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thrawn527 posted:The theory is, if Eccleston had said yes, there would have been no need for War Doctor. Oh, he would have been the one with the cosmic kablooie widget in the broken house in the desert instead of John Hurt?
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Dec 4, 2015 16:02
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How many more hours til the new ep drops?
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Dec 5, 2015 04:16
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Gaz-L posted:Like... 18? It's only 3am here in God's True Timezone. shucks. I want it now.
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Dec 5, 2015 04:41
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I'm working through the classic ones too. I'm presently picking through season 3 but I'm actually finding many of these to be not that great.
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Dec 5, 2015 06:22
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Box of Bunnies posted:Susan is such an unfortunate waste of a character outside of Marco Polo and sorta kinda a couple of Companion Chronicles. At least her unused potential shows up a little in the more capable Vicki (until her own terrible write off). Oh yeah I liked Vicki but I skipped her writeoff episode because I wasn't in the mood to watch a reconstructed story. When I went back to find out what happened I was like "she fell in love? gently caress off."
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Dec 5, 2015 15:33
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MrL_JaKiri posted:In the context of Doctor Who, she is literally Cressida (in that Cressida is her), but a redeemed Cressida. She stays behind because she loves Priam's son and wants to help rebuild Troy. In terms of character motivations that's a decent one I thought? Maybe? I only reread the summary from wikipedia to find out what happened. I just don't like that the first two female companions left the show because they ~fell in love~ and that was enough to get them to decide to live in a wasteland.
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Dec 5, 2015 15:49
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's essentially identical to the way Susan left, yes, but unlike Susan it's more supported in the text. With Suzan it's even worse because she's an alien, right? (or am I wrong in understanding that she was supposedly a "Time Lord," even though that term hasn't been used yet as of s3e08)
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Dec 5, 2015 16:17
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I felt that this ep was a bit of a mess. I actually did watch it with someone who had never before watched any Doctor Who (5 of us met up for lunch and 4 of us really wanted to watch it) and she had no clue whatsoever what was going on. The whole "I will shatter all of time because... Clara was a bit much." Apocalyptic stakes aren't that interesting. I'm actually a bit sad about the departure of the sunglasses and the return of the screwdriver, but mostly because I loathe nerd fandoms and anything that makes them go  mah canons makes me smile. Anything that shakes up "the doctor is _____" keeps the show fresh for me, so a return to some arbitrary notion of "normal" is a bit disappointing. Plus Capaldi did look cool in them. I liked the jelly-stained tshirt + black coat + electric guitar Doctor because it's just loving awesome.Re: "The Doctor's Past" + continuity stuff + retcons - it's a time travel show. Paradoxes and contradictions are intrinsic. Just roll with it because that's what makes the series a good take on that premise. And did I read this wrong, or was Me literally sitting in the ruins of Galifrey at the end of time? Was that perhaps the the actual prophecy manifest?
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microwave casserole posted:I should really go back and watch more of Seasons 1-4 sometime. I liked Matt Smith so much that I wasn't very interested in anyone else's doctor, but now Capaldi's run has gotten me more open to things. Most of those earlier episodes do look really cheap though, and not in a charming way. Think of them less in terms of "cheap and bad" and more of "wow, they actually did something pretty cool and ambitious with a ton of constraints and low tech." Many of the scripts are strong enough.
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Dec 7, 2015 18:00
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The next companion should be a bass player.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:35
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dr_rat posted:I think you mean drummer... I think that the TARDIS can provide sufficient percussion.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:10
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I just realized that the season begins with the origin of the Davros on Skaro and ends with the final heat death of Galifrey. Some nice symmetry there. Actually, this series has a decent amount of symmetry: Ep 2 features Clara trapped; ep 11 features the Doctor trapped. Ep 3 ends with a suggestion of the Doctor's death; ep 10 ends with Clara's death. Ep 4 and 9 are both dealing with weird paradoxes, kinda (this is a stretch) Eps 5, 6, 7, and 8 have a bunch of themes with non-humans trying to coexist with humans (Ashildr, Zygons), and memory (Ashildr, the whole zygon peace).
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Dec 8, 2015 20:03
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I forgot to delete the article when I changed it from Daleks.
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Attitude Indicator posted:ho hum, there's a small difference in storytelling between Pynchons 1000 page novels and a 60 minute episode of TV. Twin Peaks?
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Dec 9, 2015 00:12
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Cliff Racer posted:Go back a page, I actually point that out as being a lovely facet of the really old episodes before they settled on 4/6 parters for every serial. I watched it this fall. The Thals had migrated from a "plateau" where they had been hiding for centuries but which was no longer capable of supporting their meagre agricultural society as it had since the war. In that story they more or less just live "in the woods." I don't think that wrong is the right word to describe the story's attitude towards pacifism. I'd go with "naively idealistic in any absolute form." The gist of Ian's rant to the Thals is "peace is well and good when it's possible, but you have literal insane murder machines living in that city, and 'peace' isn't part of their vocabulary, so you'll need a different plan." Likewise, I don't remember much sympathy for the dying Daleks at all. By the time we get to the final battle, they had already been established as genocidal psychopaths who want to exterminate everything. The Doctor &al had already unceremoniously killed one to escape imprisonment, and the Daleks had already used a diplomatic ruse as an opportunity to kill the Thals' pacifist leader. The only sympathy I remember the show offering to them is for them as living things which had become so wretchedly dependent on technology that they more or less became inert balls of flesh as soon as the floor was unplugged.
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Dec 10, 2015 15:44
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Anyone able to give me a link to a gallery of reasonably high-res (large enough to print as 4*6 photo style images) Doctor Who stills? I want to pick out about 18 to 20 to print on decent paper. I've decided to put framed pictures of William Hartnell and others up on my walls as if they are my family.
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Dec 14, 2015 16:36
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The_Doctor posted:Google image search '1st doctor' etc, and then fiddle with the search tools so you're looking for 'large' pictures. That'll bring up the high res ones. Just found this rather good one by doing that: Yeah that's what I've been doing so far. I just wasn't sure if there was some kind of super secret goon repository of good images. I might also just take some of my own screenshots.
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Dec 14, 2015 16:51
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jivjov posted:There're doing theatrical screenings of the Christmas special this year. Looks like the 28th and the 29th. I'm getting tickets with a friend and we're going to drive two hours to see it! 
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Dec 16, 2015 17:25
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 The Tenth Planet
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Dec 18, 2015 04:44
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computer parts posted:So I finally caught up with S9 because school and everything distracted me after the Dalek two parter. The first Zygon ep is the one that I think thread consensus puts at the bottom of the pile, but I tend to agree with you. The Sandman to me was ambitious but it felt incomplete.
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Dec 18, 2015 18:10
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What second doctor reconstructions are worth watching? Last night I wasn't much in the mood to watch reconstructed stories in my "whole series*" run through, so I skipped anything marked "Recon", but then BOOM, I'm at The War Games (which is fun), and then to #3. I was shocked how few second doctor stories are complete. Is it only War Games and Tomb of the Cybermen?
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Dec 19, 2015 17:53
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echoplex posted:I liked the guitar stuff too. When it came to getting his second guitar (he has a Yamaha... thing at the start of the series), the buyers were looking at getting a Squier Strat (we don't have any money) but I kept pushing for them to look into an SG. They weren't keen because it didn't have the tremolo arm - which either the script or Peter wanted, can't remember - so I convinced them to stump for the Bigsby arm on it too. I was convinced that the SG was waaay more Peter than a bog-spec Strat, and they just look nicer too: when I saw the SG I actually said, aloud, "AN SG! NICE!" (to my otherwise empty apartment)
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Dec 22, 2015 06:27
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Short runs are the price we pay for lead actors that are, quite frankly, a lot better than this show deserves Interesting way to look at it. Not sure if it's right or if it's wrong.
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Dec 25, 2015 16:36
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MisterBibs posted:The only thing I disliked about the most recent episode is that the Doctor and River discuss the whole "the next time you see me it'll be the last, sorry" thing, at length. Sure, the "I'm running out of pages in my diary" thing is clever as hell, but River didn't play the Library two-parter like she went into it knowing it was the last time. It was just another time she got help from the Doctor, only it wound up being her last and his first time. I just watched The Silence in the Library / Forest of the Dead a) It's loving awesome. b) She seems part way through to figure out it's the end. c) I miss Donna. d) She says "he showed up on her doorstep with a new haircut and a suit," and it's at that moment she lays it all out. I don't think that "a new haircut" excludes new face in space time traveller body changing euphemisms. CommonShore fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:I don't think it was ever specifically said that 12 was the last Doctor she would know. In fact in the library, I'm sure she mentions that Tennant was much younger looking than the Doctor (she has just spent 24 years with) she knows who gave her the scredriver, and forgive me but Smith is younger than Tennant by my last reckoning. She goes on about the eyes. Younger eyes.
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Dec 27, 2015 18:56
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Oh here's another  I rewatched last year's xmas special right after I watched this one. One of the two elves has WOLF on the back of his coat. I couldn't find a shot of the back of the other one's. Any significance there?
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Dec 29, 2015 17:51
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I love how I got dogpiled for putting "Let's Kill Hitler" into my short list of "Must Watch" episodes for my friend, because it is "Peak Moffat" and "literally the worst," but it's also the most referenced and most discussed episode in this thread.
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Dec 29, 2015 19:41
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So this was my first Series (Season) in this thread. What happens here while we wait for 10? Lots of Big Finish discussion?
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Dabir posted:Jamie - 1967 You forgot the greatest of all companions, of either (ok, fine, "any" gender) - Wilfred Mott. 
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