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For Atlantis-Watchers, The Underwater Menace features it again!
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Sep 18, 2015 13:54
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After The War posted:The DiscContinuity Guide is its own brand of crazy, related only by title to that accursed tome. Oh right
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Sep 18, 2015 14:02
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Burkion posted:I just watched the Moon Base. Perfectly serviceable serial, very well paced. Agreed. Although there are much better BUS episodes in Troughton
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Sep 18, 2015 21:03
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Hakkesshu posted:Boy the last series was noooooot good, I hope this one is better! It had a handful of good episodes, which was a big step up from some years!!!
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It was going to be a 2 and then I thought "Would I rather watch that again or The Underwater Menace (the most recent serial I watched, which was a 2) again?".
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Sep 20, 2015 08:33
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Jerusalem posted:the crude, brute-force time travel they developed for stories like The Chase. Which is an interesting retcon because the Dalek's time machine was explicitly better than the TARDIS in The Chase Megaspel posted:They even hosed up just reversing his 12 lifespan-lifespan or whatever "oh no I'm dead, oh whoops no I'm not lol" in like an instant. That wasn't even a thing, it was brought up and then resolved in the old series and the fandom has grabbed onto it as an immutable rule (unlike the other million billion Time Lord special abilities that have been mentioned and then ignored). EccoRaven posted:I figured it was Skaro from the bow and arrow at the beginning, that image from Genesis is probably what I remember most from those episodes. Or maybe the fact that Davros was there  Chokes McGee posted:e: god drat that was a fantastic episode, I don't care what anyone says. It's the first New Who that felt legitimately like the Old Who, only with a special effects budget. As someone who's watched 72 Doctor Who serials in the last month, it really really really really didn't.
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Sep 20, 2015 08:34
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Jerusalem posted:In all seriousness though, I haven't watched it for a while but I kinda recalled the Daleks only being able to follow the path that the Doctor was taking in his TARDIS, and the only time it actually goes anywhere ahead of the TARDIS is when the Doctor gets inside and programs it to return Ian and Barbara to 1963 (and he screws that up too!)? No, the fact that they are able to follow the Doctor is used as evidence that it's really sophisticated.
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Sep 20, 2015 09:21
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Also, strictly speaking The Planet of the Daleks was Spiradon  And that 1960's dalek didn't have the solar panels that were added in The Chase so wouldn't be able to move on the rocky surface of the planet 
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Sep 20, 2015 11:54
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Modern nerd poo poo in general seems to be obsessed with "cool moments". Same as the Avengers (especially the most recent one) and it just makes it unwatchable for me.computer parts posted:I think it was you No!!!
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Sep 20, 2015 14:58
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computer parts posted:This complaint is funny because for the past few years the complaint has been "why is Moffat referencing stuff we never saw in previous episodes and expecting us to take it at face value?" No it hasn't
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Sep 20, 2015 15:06
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computer parts posted:The Ood in the background of the cantina scene is much more "old and used" than a one liner about Atlantis. A one liner about Atlantis that makes sense if you know that The Underwater Menace, The Daemons and The Time Monster have three separate descriptions of how Atlantis was destroyed, but doesn't make sense if you've seen them because The Daemons only mentions it in passing rather than actually going there.
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Sep 20, 2015 15:26
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computer parts posted:Another example is the Moffat trio, who made people "confused" because it felt like they missed an episode introducing them. This bit is because of the habit of making stupid references to old stuff without explanation, not an ironic counterpoint to it as you seem to believe.
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Sep 20, 2015 15:29
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Meanwhile, on Outpost Gallifrey there's a big flame thread about how there can be black Kaleds
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Sep 20, 2015 15:54
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Sep 20, 2015 15:56
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's Davros though. It's not just about it just being a kid, it's that it's the Hitler paradox. Which they hit firmly on the nose by quoting the Doctor referring to it in Genesis.
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Sep 20, 2015 17:08
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Maxwell Lord posted:I don't see why not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFFi9PWKDjg This is not the bit with GO SON GO! GO SON GO! so you've chosen poorly
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Sep 20, 2015 18:08
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RunAndGun posted:I wonder if that was deliberate - since they know that this will be shown in 2 parts over a week's time (plus the 9 month drought), perhaps they overstuffed this episode to have fans something to chew over these next 7 days. They've had two parters that have been less of a mess before this, you know. Moffat even wrote some of them!
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Sep 20, 2015 18:09
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Cleretic posted:None of the things it brings up are really resolved in the episode itself, it's all leading into the next episode. Disagree entirely. Almost all of the things that are brought up are resolved in the episode, to the extent that someone could watch the cold opening and the last few minutes and, with all likelihood, not miss anything that will affect part 2. The stuff about the planes? Resolved. UNIT? Resolved. The Doctor being "missing"? Resolved. What is there apart from "The Doctor is on Skaro with Davros, who he left in a minefield as a child, and his companion, the Master, and the TARDIS have all been daleked"?
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Sep 20, 2015 18:16
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I forgot to complain about how the stilted way that Clara described the planes being frozen was indeed the twitter hashtag and the phrase that the news reports used.RunAndGun posted:True, but you have to add in the 9 month drought, too. This wasn't just a normal 2 parter in the middle of a season. Compare to The Impossible Astronaut then. I'm not a fan of TIA, but that's largely because DotM is such a terrible resolution.
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Sep 20, 2015 18:20
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RunAndGun posted:Yes. I like this new dymanic. They're moving/moved away from the simple white-hat Doctor black-hat Master Light Side of the Force / Dark Side of the Force relationship. Missy's point of view that the Doctor keeps trying to kill her too. Stuff like that. (And at the same time, reaffirming that they're not interchangeable, "No, I've not turned... guud!") This has always been the Doctor/Master relationship.
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Sep 20, 2015 18:31
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RunAndGun posted:On the other hand, long-term fans gotta eat to. Oh, if it's for the long term fans and not us newbies that's ok then
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Sep 20, 2015 18:33
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Mr Beens posted:Things that are still to resolved (all of which are reasonably big) I hope the reveal of how the Master came back after The Planet of Fire, or the Meddling Monk came back after The Time Meddler, are in the next episode as well  RunAndGun posted:Yes, point. TIA was less chaotic than this episode was. Still, I like chaos sometimes. Sometimes you get to relax in a big easy chair, sometimes you're in a roller coaster. Or, in this case, being sat in the stocks and being pelted from unexpected directions
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Snake dude is really into the singles scene and he didn't know where else to go He needed some Nick Cave to get into the mood
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People who aren't following British politics today are missing out One Swell Foop posted:Also, it seemed like Peter Capaldi was actually playing guitar in those scenes, it's usually pretty obvious when somebody's miming. Wasn't he the guitarist in a punk band with Craig Ferguson? It was him playing the guitar. Also, 
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Sep 21, 2015 20:24
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2house2fly posted:I think people have gotten used to single episodes, surely every cliffhanger before wasn't greeted with "well they're OBVIOUSLY going to survive this The best cliffhangers tended not to put the Doctor or the companions in mortal danger (although there are some - seeing them all being gunned down in Caves[/], for example) but rather do something shocking or dramatic in the context of the story. The countdown in Inferno is a fine example. That's beside the point, though - it's a question of the stakes at the end of this episode being so impossibly large in the context of the series that there is absolutely zero way that they can't retcon it in some fashion and still be making the programme [i]Doctor Who. So you know the retcon is coming and that everything you just watched is ultimately meaningless even within its own context.
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Her cadence and tone and body language when saying this confused the gently caress out of me, she is 100% acting as if she's a stand up and has just told a joke and is waiting for laughter that never comes. Also applause that comes very half heartedly
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Sep 21, 2015 23:03
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It was the Doctor Who theme
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Sep 22, 2015 13:08
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Sep 22, 2015 14:15
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It was nice seeing the old daleks in Asylum, even though I didn't like the episode as a whole, because there was a reason for them to be there and also obsolete. Just throwing them in all the time makes me roll my eyes and little else.
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I think I'm going to start doing longer analyses of episodes again, because frankly there's not much I can say about Master Plan without going into a lot of background stuff
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Sep 22, 2015 18:39
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And More posted:I guess the real question is whether the Doctor was actually gullible enough to believe it. Seems pretty unlikely. The guy notices when the gravitation is too perfect. There's a difference between being "really destroyed" in-universe and being "really destroyed" in the context of it being a television programme. There is a high chance that the TARDIS is really destroyed, but will be undestroyed with Time Travel somehow.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:12
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I forgot that Master Plan had a two minute skit about Test Match Special
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Sep 22, 2015 20:28
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Sep 22, 2015 22:51
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Also he means Mara, the Kinda were the people and the Mara were the snakes.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I thought the Tardis was pretty much indestructible baring very specific weapons that can blow up tardis's. Can it really just be destroyed by a roof mounted zap gun? Or are we supposed to think that was a specific Tardis destroying weapon? Its indestructability has varied over the years, and you'd think the daleks would know how to blow up a TARDIS given the Time War and all Gaz-L posted:Meanwhile I got completely confused and was thinking of the Myrka whenever people were making that comparison. The Myrka was a lizard thing with two men inside it. The snake dude was a man with a load of snakes inside him. So I can see how you can be confused.
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So how many new characters were actually named in that episode? I can't remember any (I know there were half a dozen named in the credits, were they actually referred to by name in the programme itself?) Also "Colony Sarrf" just makes me wonder if there's a Colony North as well
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