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InitialDave posted:Holy loving poo poo. Great, I could afford to insure a Ferrari. But not buy it  I asked about the garage not being the cheapest a few years ago, apparently cars stored in garages have poo poo dropped on them a lot. I'm careful to say my car is in a shared parking area rather than a drive, as it's cheaper again.
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Cakefool posted:Great, I could afford to insure a Ferrari. And you have a wife/kids you could sell to fund one.
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Sep 24, 2015 18:07
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InitialDave posted:Pretty much! In fairness, a 348 like Kimbo's isn't crazy money though. The jump in price from 348 to 355 is crazy. You can get a decent 348 for 50-60k. A similar condition 355 would be 70-80. The 355 also comes with a raft of extra issues (cracking exhaust headers, weak valve guides) that are scary. I think now is the right time to buy a 348, before the nicer ones start appreciating. It's already too late for 355s. Ok, so I've been meaning to get a video, but I'm gonna write it up before I forget. Recall what I said about Ferrari putting in weird redundancies into the car. When you pop open the door, this is what you see:  Ok, a lap belt. But this car is from 1991? On the left edge of the frame, you can see a buckle. That's the "mad mouse," an electric belt runner that starts there and runs down the door sill. I've been spooked twice by its scuttling up and down the track. So if that's where the buckle is, where is the belt? The 348 flouts convention and has the shoulder belts dangling from between the seats.  It works, and the ratchet catches you upon deceleration just fine, but it's so unusual. Finally, if you don't like the automatic seat belt, you can always use the buckle mounted on the seat:  Yes, the 348 is a car with safety restraint options. You can make out the discoloration and slight cracking on the seat bolster. It's not gonna eat me up. Oh, the parking brake -- because it's on the left, it can get in the way of your exiting the car. It folds back down once you've pulled it up. To release, you pull it back up high enough to press the release button. So it's important to check that the PARK light is off.
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Sep 24, 2015 20:26
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Wow! That thing is really neat! I am surprised it has a 25 gallon tank! My first car had a 25 gallon tank (1980 Bonneville) with how much you bike do you see yourself filling up once or twice a month? I also would appreciate a running log of all the (dumb) things people say that depletes your faith in humanity. Namely hearing "You wanna trade?" every time you take it out. Ever.
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Sep 24, 2015 20:27
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kimbo305 posted:
Just like my Fiero!
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Sep 24, 2015 22:03
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boxen posted:Just like my Fiero! Wait a minute... 
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Sep 24, 2015 22:06
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kimbo305 posted:The jump in price from 348 to 355 is crazy. You can get a decent 348 for 50-60k. A similar condition 355 would be 70-80. The 355 also comes with a raft of extra issues (cracking exhaust headers, weak valve guides) that are scary. I think now is the right time to buy a 348, before the nicer ones start appreciating. It's already too late for 355s.
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Sep 24, 2015 22:32
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kimbo305 posted:Oh, the parking brake -- because it's on the left, it can get in the way of your exiting the car. It folds back down once you've pulled it up. To release, you pull it back up high enough to press the release button. So it's important to check that the PARK light is off. boxen posted:Just like my Fiero! KozmoNaut posted:Wait a minute... C4 Corvettes use the left side park brake lever too. So this whole thread could be an elaborate troll.
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Sep 25, 2015 00:04
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kimbo305 posted:The jump in price from 348 to 355 is crazy. You can get a decent 348 for 50-60k. A similar condition 355 would be 70-80. The 355 also comes with a raft of extra issues (cracking exhaust headers, weak valve guides) that are scary. I think now is the right time to buy a 348, before the nicer ones start appreciating. It's already too late for 355s. A friend of mine has a 355, and discourages me from buying one every time I see him. I drove his at the VCHC a few years ago, and I really enjoyed it, incidentally this was also when you could get them in the 50k range. Every time time I talk to him it's some new headache, the ECUs dying, the headers, the struts failing, etc.
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Left Ventricle posted:C4 Corvettes use the left side park brake lever too. So this whole thread could be an elaborate troll. It's called a fly-off handbrake.
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The factory tires are 215/50 17, 255/45 17. Support for 17" performance tires is still pretty good, but those sizes are a bit unusual, so I don't have any max performance summer tire options in those sizes. After consulting the track thread, I opted to go with ZII Star Specs in 225/45, 245/45. I'm not thrilled to be going narrower in the back, but I figure the Star Specs will be stickier overall than the best factory size option, BFG gForce Comps. Right now, it's running different model tires front and back. I got the rears to squeal a little on tight turns out of a roundabout and at an intersection. I definitely want to upgrade. So I have Tirerack ship them to a Firestone I've used before. Some installers have restrictions (like call before shipping), but this one had none listed. They're delivered today, and I call to make an appointment. The tech who answers asks what car it is, upon which he says he'll need 2 hours to carefully dismount/mount the tires. Which seems crazy, but whatever, I go with it. A few minutes later, his foreman calls and says he won't do it -- he just doesn't want to risk it with these wheels. So... I have 4 tires at a shop that I can't pick up (well, I'm sure I could do one or two at a time with the 348). I emailed Tirerack to see what my options are. There are a few other tire shops close by there that I trust no more or less to do the work. I think a couple are even Tirerack approved. I just feel like I'll be in a spot where both Tirerack and Firestone will want to put the burden on the other party. Lazy rear end that I am, I'd rather return the tires to Tirerack and then reorder them to a shop I've gotten the ok from.
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Sep 25, 2015 02:35
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kimbo305 posted:The factory tires are 215/50 17, 255/45 17. Support for 17" performance tires is still pretty good, but those sizes are a bit unusual, so I don't have any max performance summer tire options in those sizes. Call a local exotic dealer, any will do, and ask who their preferred tire shop is (rarely do they do this in-house). This is how I find shops that can M&B tires for the Viper.
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Sep 25, 2015 02:48
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That's bullshit, those aren't even exotic tire sizes anymore. Hell I run the same size as the fronts for winter tires on my Volvo wagon.
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Sep 25, 2015 06:38
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Yeah they aren't super low profile really wide tires. Maybe just stop by? I mean if they can't take off a wheel and put on a tire without scratching it up what the gently caress are they even doing?
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Sep 25, 2015 06:46
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jamal posted:Yeah they aren't super low profile really wide tires. Maybe just stop by? I mean if they can't take off a wheel and put on a tire without scratching it up what the gently caress are they even doing? That's what I said -- how can you be worried about scratching up a normal 17" alloy wheel if that's what you do all day? He genuinely sounded unnerved by the prospect.
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Sep 25, 2015 06:49
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I bet if you took the demounted wheels down there (I always do this, part of my usual thing about minimising how much work someone else does on my cars) with the Ferrari emblems removed, they'd just crack on with them without comment.
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Sep 25, 2015 08:33
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But how does he get the wheels there and back?
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Sep 25, 2015 10:34
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Sudo Echo posted:But how does he get the wheels there and back? And if you only have the one, that's your excuse to buy a few more!
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Sep 25, 2015 10:53
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InitialDave posted:In one of his multiple other cars? He posted earlier that this is his only car, he rides a bicycle to work. Maybe get one of those tow-behind kid carriers and use that!
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Sep 25, 2015 11:00
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Yeah, I was being facetious there. My point is that if you presented them with the wheels as not identifiably Ferrari, they likely wouldn't even pass comment on them. But still, multiple cars are good.
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At my peak AIness, my 3 cars were an NA Miata, a Group 2 rally Focus, and that supercharged SVT Focus. If I got a 2nd car, I"m positive the same thing would happen -- I'd buy something cool and impractical and less reliable instead of something reliable and capable of carrying 4 tires in the hatch. I currently own 9 bicycles; I need to thin that herd to have more time to focus on cars, too. My local Ferrari shop is Aston Martin of New England, who has a Ferrari-certified tech who works on a wide age-range of Ferraris. They do tires in-house, and quoted me  $280. The next most expensive place locally is $120. I also found out their labor rate is $135/hr, which seems reasonable enough. I would like to check these guys out more -- I need them to install these Ricambi skid plates under the front lip and do all the real maintenance work on the car.
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Sep 25, 2015 14:51
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kimbo305 posted:At my peak AIness, my 3 cars were an NA Miata, a Group 2 rally Focus, and that supercharged SVT Focus. You know what has a hatch, can carry tires, is reliable, and fun? A C6 Z06.
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Muffinpox posted:You know what has a hatch, can carry tires, is reliable, and fun? C5 Z06 > C6 Z06. 
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Sep 25, 2015 15:58
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kimbo305 posted:At my peak AIness, my 3 cars were an NA Miata, a Group 2 rally Focus, and that supercharged SVT Focus. I can find out pricing at work for it if you still need it, the guy who does tires at BMW can definitely do it no problem
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Sep 25, 2015 15:59
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That's an amazing car in that color. Did I miss how much you paid for it?
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Octopus Magic posted:C5 Z06 > C6 Z06. From a price standpoint, maybe, but as with 911s, buy the newest you can afford. I would say the C5Z looks slightly more distinctive from the outside, though. CornHolio posted:That's an amazing car in that color. Did I miss how much you paid for it? meatpimp found the original sale thread from June on FerrariChat. It was going for $45k. I bought it from the dealer in Sept for $51k. Even factoring in a $1500 shipping from the west coast, I got took a bit. Nodoze posted:I can find out pricing at work for it if you still need it, the guy who does tires at BMW can definitely do it no problem Yeah, lemme know. I haven't heard back from Tirerack, but I'm sure I will eventually.
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kimbo305 posted:I got a really nice 2 car discount with my current insurance -- basically the 2nd car would be $100/6mon (I dunno why I keep using the pay period instead of per year). Last I checked with Hagerty, the daily driver had to be less than 10 years old. That limits your beater options. Grundy is another collector insurance I looked into. IIRC, they didn't seem to have as many restrictions on daily driver/mileage/etc as Hagerty did.
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Sep 26, 2015 03:28
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At least when I first started with Hagerty, there was no age limit on the driver car (at least, not one that young) - it's why I bought my '88 Volvo 240, and this was around 2005. Not that I think it matters to much of AI now since we're all getting to be old fucks, but back then Hagerty was also the only company I could find who would touch an under-25 driver.
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IOwnCalculus posted:At least when I first started with Hagerty, there was no age limit on the driver car (at least, not one that young) - it's why I bought my '88 Volvo 240, and this was around 2005. It's sad how most of us started as late teens early 20s assholes, now we're all bitter late 20s++++. And that this forum has had very little turnover in 3+ years.
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iwentdoodie posted:It's sad how most of us started as late teens early 20s assholes, now we're all bitter late 20s++++. I've noticed the same thing about AI membership. Is the entire demographic of SA staying stagnant and aging? Tirerack strong armed Firestone to drop the tires off at a shop half a mile over by threatening talking to their corporate. This shop still wants a couple hours to do it, but they're up for it. Another amusing thing is that everyone I e talked to and heard from at Tirerack calls it The Tirerack. Today, I'm completely wiped by this cold that's been building over the week. I need to schedule the tire mounting and touch up the targa top next.
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kimbo305 posted:I've noticed the same thing about AI membership. Is the entire demographic of SA staying stagnant and aging? iwentdoodie posted:It's sad how most of us started as late teens early 20s assholes, now we're all bitter late 20s++++. I dunno what you're talking about, I started here in my late 20's and now I'm about to turn 40 and IOC is the only regular poster I still remember from the early 2000's. drat young whippersnappers. 
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Sep 26, 2015 20:13
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All I ask is that if the forums do wind up shutting down some day, that I be made mod of AI for six mere hours.
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iwentdoodie posted:It's sad how most of us started as late teens early 20s assholes, now we're all bitter late 20s++++. Not many new people coming through. Isn't TT the latest regular AIer that hasn't been run out of here? Do we have bad B.O. or something?
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Perhaps it's more that the kind of people now joining SA aren't interested in cars so much?
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leica posted:Not many new people coming through. Isn't TT the latest regular AIer that hasn't been run out of here? I think more that SA isn't super popular anymore thanks to reddit/fb/etc, and honestly most younger people don't give a poo poo about cars because they can't afford them.
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I dunno, my son is 7 yrs old and he loving LOVES cars, and it's not like I'm encouraging it either. Whenever he sees a 911 or any kind of Ferrari he freaks out. He begged me to take him to cars and coffee after finding out about it all on his own. I guess my point is you can still love cars even if you can't afford them.
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leica posted:I dunno, my son is 7 yrs old and he loving LOVES cars, and it's not like I'm encouraging it either. Whenever he sees a 911 or any kind of Ferrari he freaks out. He begged me to take him to cars and coffee after finding out about it all on his own. Anecdotal, and tainted by your own tastes and likes being a large influence on him. Young people these days don't need cars as much because they can chill with their friends on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat (as opposed to older generations who could only hang out and chat if they physically could get places), and most of them aren't working/earning enough to afford a beater, so aside from kids whose parents don't start exposing them to cars and racing at a young age, they just don't care.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Anecdotal, and tainted by your own tastes and likes being a large influence on him. Pretty much this. I work with a lot of 24 and younger people, who HAVE a steady income and can afford a car...And even among the ones who do choose to buy one, they don't give a poo poo. Basically whatever is pretty or cheap. Edit: I carried a bare cylinder head in the other day and it was like I had a third nipple on my face or something. Working on your own poo poo, or enjoying cars, is an oddity to most people and doubly so for young people. I'm only 28, but I definitely see it. On the other hand, I know quite a few in that same bracket who loving love bikes.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Anecdotal, and tainted by your own tastes and likes being a large influence on him. Anecdotal yes, but honestly it's not like I have posters of Ferraris all over the house, I think it's more of a product of the area we live in. Lots of rich people with lots of exotics driving around. 911's are like Mustangs around here.
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kimbo305 posted:I've noticed the same thing about AI membership. Is the entire demographic of SA staying stagnant and aging? Yes.
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