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lowercase16 posted:We actually know very little about any of the Strawhats' backstories, aside from a single defining tragedy. This always puzzled me too. Most established female characters of any importance are either too young, too old, or too ugly to plausibly be a close relative of Luffy. Ivankov didn't know Dragon had a family, which rules out the males. It could be Jewelry Bonney, but my guess is it will turn out to be a previously unmentioned female relative of an established male character, most likely Roger. quote:Why was he abandoned? Dragon was busy/in danger as leader of the Revolutionaries. Luffy's mother probably either died in childbirth or had her own criminal career. quote:Why did Garp take him to be raised by a bandit rather than raise Luffy himself? He was busy as a Marine, and doesn't seem to be a very responsible person. quote:After Flashback - Not much here. We're led to believe that Luffy just continued to train until the day he left. Something else could have happened though. Yeah, the post-Marineford flashback fills in the gaps between Romance Dawn and the main story pretty well. quote:Zoro A complete mystery here. I don't buy the theory that he's from Water 7, since you'd think he would have mentioned it if he was from the Grand Line. quote:After Flashback - Zoro had to have some adventures on his own to have already made a name for himself as a bounty hunter. Who did he take down? Mightn't they want revenge? They already addressed this at Whiskey Peak, when it was revealed that he'd killed a Frontier Agent. Aside from that, the people Zoro took down probably weren't very strong by Grand Line standards, and thus probably aren't very important. I think there is a gap here, since I don't remember an explanation of how he met Johnny and Yosaku, but it's probably not important enough to be addressed outside of an SBS at this point. quote:Nami Probably just a pirate attack. I don't think "real" wars are common in East Blue. quote:After Flashback - Same as Zoro, really. She stole 93 million berries from some presumably pissed off pirates. More opportunity for a revenge story. As with Zoro, they probably weren't strong enough to be important. quote:Usopp No flashback, but no room to insert one either. I think what you see is what you get here, ironically. quote:Sanji I kind of like this idea, although it's worth noting that he was born in North Blue, which restricts the possibilities somewhat. quote:After Flashback - Nothing much. We know he stayed on the Baratie and helped Zeff. Not a lot of room for extra stories there. Agreed. quote:Chopper I think Oda just didn't really think through the implications of the Human Human Fruit just lying around. quote:After Flashback - Again, I'm not seeing much. He trains under Doc Kureha. We actually already got a backstory twist after the main flashback (the origin of Monster Point). Not really room for anything more, though. quote:Robin Interesting. I don't have any guesses. quote:After Flashback - The flashback does include a few panels of her life between leaving Ohara and joining Baroque Works, but only in pretty broad strokes. I take this as intentional glossing over of the pretty horrible things she's probably done to survive. (At one point she actually tells Zoro that she used to be an assassin, but I'm not sure how serious she was.) quote:Franky I agree that they're probably not important. quote:After Flashback - I think there's a good story to be told about what Franky did after failing to stop the train and rebuilding himself as a cyborg. He didn't go back to Water 7 right away. What did he do in the intervening years? What made him return to the island that held such pain for him and already thought him dead? I never noticed this.  , but if it gets elaborated on, it will probably be tied to Vegapunk somehow.quote:Brook He would be an interesting source of information on how the OPverse has changed over the decades, but I doubt it will be elaborated on much. quote:After Flashback - Not much. We didn't get to see much of his first encounter with Moria. Just a flashback to his first attempt to retrieve his shadow. Other that that, it's just lonely drifting through fog. Not much to elaborate on there, I think. quote:So yeah. There's a lot of room for further defining the personalities of pretty much all the Strawhats. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Sep 24, 2015 |
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its no surprise that there are so many pirates in a world full of deadbeat parents
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Sep 24, 2015 21:20
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shakky is probably luffys mom if any character we've seen is
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Sep 24, 2015 21:38
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Weren't Nami's parents revealed in one of the movies? Also why would the previous Human-Human fruit user need to have died on Drum island? That's not how they work.
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Sep 24, 2015 21:45
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RatHat posted:Weren't Nami's parents revealed in one of the movies? movies arent canon
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Sep 24, 2015 21:46
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anime was right posted:movies arent canon Except when they are.
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Sep 24, 2015 21:47
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Oda said that Luffy's mom had already appeared in the manga, and he even specified a volume. I'm sure the possibilities could be narrowed down to a tight list.
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Sep 24, 2015 21:56
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Which volume? She's going to be one of the people in the crowd at Roger's execution or some other crowd shot, isn't she?
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Sep 24, 2015 22:09
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Kild posted:The Mane thing in the big pirate panel is probably the 7th. Same mane from I always thought that person was Captain Yorki (who may still be alive, albeit very old), theirs no reason to keep Shiki's identity a secret.
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Sep 24, 2015 22:21
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F. Lobot posted:It was kinda strange how Franky rebuilding his body was glossed over. "He found some spare parts and put his shipwright skills to use"? Seems dodgy, the way Oda no biggies it. Maybe the Pluton blueprints taught him about cyborg technology. Maybe the parts belonged to Vegapunk or some other scientist. There's a plotline starting there. But Franky didn't get the Pluton plans until after he rebuilt himself and returned to Water 7. Rigged Death Trap posted:Power levels confirmed. Boooooo. Silver2195 posted:I think Oda just didn't really think through the implications of the Human Human Fruit just lying around. Yeah, it's probably like haki in that he probably didn't solidify the mechanics until much later on. Silver2195 posted:We actually already got a backstory twist after the main flashback (the origin of Monster Point). Not really room for anything more, though. Oh yeah... I forgot about that! Silver2195 posted:Interesting. I don't have any guesses. Me either. I'm not really theory-crafting here; I'm just pointing out areas that Oda could use to surprise us in the future. Jose posted:its no surprise that there are so many pirates in a world full of deadbeat parents Hurt people hurt people.  RatHat posted:Also why would the previous Human-Human fruit user need to have died on Drum island? That's not how they work. The fruit's power jump to the nearest similar fruit after the previous user dies. I guess I am assuming that Devil Fruits don't just appear randomly in the world, which might be wrong. I always assumed they all came from the same tree somewhere. "d[-.- posted:b" post="450633105"]
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="450633105"] You're gonna have to provide a source for this.
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Sep 24, 2015 22:32
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anime was right posted:shakky is probably luffys mom if any character we've seen is Shakky is married to Rayleigh, and fairly old to boot (she quit being a pirate 42 years ago, so she's probably in her 60s). It's not impossible, but it's an odd fit with what we know about her.
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Sep 24, 2015 22:46
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RatHat posted:You're gonna have to provide a source for this. the source is oda was talking about dragon, also, this is what he's said about luffys mom quote:I think she's alive. I'm still thinking very hard about this. [Laughs] But if she does appear in the story, then she'll be a very tough-looking woman. And strict. There's no way she's a beautiful mother. She's got this typical middle-aged woman's permed hair..."
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anime was right posted:the source is oda was talking about dragon, also, this is what he's said about luffys mom so dadan
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Tolth posted:I suspect you get a free pass when said pirate later charges into a fight with your entire leadership structure and makes it out unscathed. Yeah but Lucchi was already there in disguise before Luffy started laying the beatdown on Doffy and the gang. Given how Aikanu was spitting hot fire over the new admiral apologizing to the country, it's hard for me to buy that Aikanu would let that slide, even with Lucchi/Aikanu's practice of 'Dark Justice'. There's definitely more to the story here, I figure it's got something to do with the Elder Stars or whatever they're called forcing their hand despite his objections. On another story beat! Doffy's wrapped up in chains, pegged to the floor monitored by that 'give-no-fucks' lady marine and he's still delivering those trademark warped philosophical speeches? Stay golden flamingo, never change that spirit 
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Parrotine posted:Yeah but Lucchi was already there in disguise before Luffy started laying the beatdown on Doffy and the gang. Given how Aikanu was spitting hot fire over the new admiral apologizing to the country, it's hard for me to buy that Aikanu would let that slide, even with Lucchi/Aikanu's practice of 'Dark Justice'. There's definitely more to the story here, I figure it's got something to do with the Elder Stars or whatever they're called forcing their hand despite his objections. I think Akainu took issue with Fujitora's public apology and decision to let Luffy and Law go, not with quietly letting Doflamingo lose. I don't think Akainu likes the Warlords very much. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 24, 2015 |
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akainu has one of the more ridiculous devil fruits and i'd like to see him get a proper fight before sabo beats him
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RatHat posted:You're gonna have to provide a source for this. This has some theorizing on it, but the sbs part is at the top right. 
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I thought Dragon was his biological dad? What's afro dude got to do with it
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I don't know what the original circler's point was, but it was probably something like "Look at the characters Oda consistently draws around Dragon. They're both probably important in some way."
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I like the signatures that the crew did. Luffy's just says "me," Zoro only wrote the kanji for sword, and Robin drew a rooster for Bartolomeo. I guess when you think about it it's odd that Usopp and Franky's are in a whole different language than the others' though.
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:I like the signatures that the crew did. Luffy's just says "me," Zoro only wrote the kanji for sword, and Robin drew a rooster for Bartolomeo. I guess when you think about it it's odd that Usopp and Franky's are in a whole different language than the others' though. All the books and newspapers and such we see are all in our alphabet too, but the Marines use Kanji on their shirt, as well as some other examples. It's probably the same language in the One Piece world, don't think about it too hard. I think Hunter x Hunter and maybe FMA are the only big shounen I can recall were consistent with this kinda thing. Parrotine posted:Yeah but Lucchi was already there in disguise before Luffy started laying the beatdown on Doffy and the gang. Given how Aikanu was spitting hot fire over the new admiral apologizing to the country, it's hard for me to buy that Aikanu would let that slide, even with Lucchi/Aikanu's practice of 'Dark Justice'. There's definitely more to the story here, I figure it's got something to do with the Elder Stars or whatever they're called forcing their hand despite his objections. The Cipher Pol are a part of the police force, not the Marines. They're both World Government organisations but Sakazuki doesn't have any direct command over them, I don't think. If Kong or the Gorosei want Lucci back, he can't do diddly dick about it.
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its pointing out that the lady showed up in 440, what that person fails to account for is the actual thing oda said was "parent(s)" because plurals work funny in japanese.
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I'm pretty sure "jack" is gonna be Morgan but with a kaidou fruit, this way when he fights the navy he gives them a rough time to show how strong kaidous army and fruits can make otherwise weak chars
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he looks kinda like bluejam
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Sep 25, 2015 00:13
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Gold Rodger impregnated Dragon through the force, let's move on
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The Barto Club ship loving owns 
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Prison Warden posted:Luffy is not Ace, brometheus whoopsiedoodle. wires got crossed there dragon is luffy's papa.
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Luffy's mom is Adventure. It's why he's constantly chasing after it. He just wants his mum.
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Sep 25, 2015 02:10
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The old wanted posters. Chopper's reward has doubled. 
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Sep 25, 2015 02:16
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I can't wait to see Captain Jacks' devastating attack, The Military Step
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="450635380"] So we see franky's dad and either luffy or franky's mom.
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Say Nothing posted:The old wanted posters. That's pre-timeskip. I can't remember all the changes but at least Luffy and Franky's bounties were higher.
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RatHat posted:That's pre-timeskip. I can't remember all the changes but at least Luffy and Franky's bounties were higher. Here's the timeskip bounties:  It's sorta hard to tell, but it looks like only Luffy's had increased.
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One thing the Mr. Prince theory explains is why Sanji's portrait was a lovely second-hand drawing back in Water 7. Beyond being a hilarious joke, it also pushes up this plot thread to the point where Oda wants to tell it, which would be now. This I guess is true regardless if he was a prince or not though - it's obvious he's not been recognized until now that there's an actual picture of him, and that this ties into his backstory.
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Parrotine posted:I thought Dragon was his biological dad? What's afro dude got to do with it With Ivankov around gender doesn't really mean much. Luffy's mom could be a dude now. Hell, Dragon could technically be Luffy's mom from a temporary fit of Ivankov fancy.
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Gyges posted:With Ivankov around gender doesn't really mean much. Luffy's mom could be a dude now. Hell, Dragon could technically be Luffy's mom from a temporary fit of Ivankov fancy. Except Ivankov didn't know Dragon had a family.
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Gyges posted:With Ivankov around gender doesn't really mean much. Luffy's mom could be a dude now. Hell, Dragon could technically be Luffy's mom from a temporary fit of Ivankov fancy. Dragon and Ivankov are Luffy's dad and mom. Or mom and dad. Or mom and mom. It's no big deal. Silver2195 posted:Except Ivankov didn't know Dragon had a family. It isn't a proper Revolutionary Army party if you remember the whole thing. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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I hoping the reason they want Sanji alive is because some Okama Celestial Dragon saw Sanji's new photo and threw down and an extra 50 million berries, on top of the 50 the marines gave everyone, to make him a love slave.
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Silver2195 posted:Except Ivankov didn't know Dragon had a family. Sometimes you gotta send your gender switching buddy on a 9-10 month mission.
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