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e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

captaintsubasa posted:

Ice. Media calls it an 'epidemic'. Ice is a unifying problem for diverse communities. From the marginalised communities to the suburban white folks. Some argue that this is more of a health issue now than a legal issue. Some say that criminalising addicts will give them no hope of a future, except more crime. "Prohibition is futile." Certain nations like Portugal and Switzerland have essentially decriminalised ice, and are focusing on treating addicts and spreading awareness as a prevention measure. Some argue that other western nations should adopt this method. There is comparison drawn between this theory and the needle exchange program implemented since the 1980's to counter the spread of AIDS among heroine addicts. Your thoughts?

Is posting-while-tweaking bannable here, or is that just in TCC?

Reducing meth use would be a lot easier if adderall wasn't as common as candy in high schools and colleges. It's hard to get a good public health campaign explaining that this substance can ruin your life when people are doing a drug that's tremendously similar as a study aid.

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e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:

It's not even close actually.

Having done both, I can attest that their psychoactive effects are profoundly similar (adderall just being a slightly lighter version). I've been clean for a few years now, but when I was using pretty much everyone I knew who used started with adderall. It's similar to the relation between oxycontin and heroin. They are different substances but their effects are similar enough to trigger the same kind of addiction in people who are predisposed to it.

VitalSigns posted:

Well I don't know about that, even one methyl group can make a big difference. Most people don't have a problem understanding that ethanol is okay to drink, but methanol or isopropanol are not.

None of my adderall-abusing schoolfriends would touch meth with a 10-foot pole.

You think they won't touch it. Some of them might be using it now. Those who make the leap from adderall to meth are pretty good about hiding it because of the social stigma. More than once when I was using (and even after for a while after I got clean) I was approached by people whose adderall prescription had run out and who wanted a hookup. (They were always "trying to make it through a big project" or something. Seems a lot of big projects seem to come due around the time people who use a lot of adderall run out...)

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