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Bruceski posted:Ivy? They made her IVY? She's always been Ivy Pepper.
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May 17, 2016 05:02
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twistedmentat posted:She's always been Ivy Pepper. Not her, Fish.
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May 17, 2016 05:14
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Bruceski posted:Not her, Fish. Oh I see what you mean, how Fish is now Poison Ivy. As if she couldn't be more obnoxious. I am honestly surprised that Ivy has not made a friend in a Harleen Quinzel. She's basically the only major Batman villain that hasn't shown up in some form. I guess there's Man-Bat.
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May 17, 2016 05:41
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May 17, 2016 09:30
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I guess I just never really minded Fish in season 1. Didn't really mind her here, either.
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May 17, 2016 10:07
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Fish is back, and her special back-from-the-dead power is that she can trick people into bringing her delicious sandwiches.
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May 17, 2016 10:33
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Gonz posted:Fish is back, and her special back-from-the-dead power is that she can trick people into bringing her delicious sandwiches. I hope Penguin brings her one of his special sandwiches
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May 17, 2016 12:45
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Gonz posted:Fish is back, and her special back-from-the-dead power is that she can trick people into bringing her delicious sandwiches. If this was all she actually could do, It would be so much better. Just a steady stream of people bringing her sandwiches.
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May 17, 2016 15:29
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Gawain The Blind posted:If this was all she actually could do, It would be so much better. Just a steady stream of people bringing her sandwiches. Fish: (touches Butch) Now... KILL Penguin, and bring me his head on a silver platter! (There's a flash of light from her hand to his, signifying that the mind control message has been sent.) Butch steps back, pauses, looks at his hand curiously, then confusedly turns around and walks away. He returns several minutes later (camera rolling on Fish the entire time as she makes ridiculous gestures to the scenery, gnawing on every bit of it she can). His mallet hand is beneath a silver platter, and it is being steadied by its lid, which Butch's actual hand is holding carefully. Butch: Here you go, Miss Money! Hope you enjoy it! (He holds the platter out.) Fish: You did good, Butch, really good. (She takes the platter.) Hmmm... seems kind of light; I was expecting it to be several pounds heavier... what is that on your arm?? Butch: (Tolds up his mallet hand. The mallet has been replaced by a spatula, which is now attached to his arm. It is a nice spatula.) Oh, this? Boss had it made special for me. I didn't have time to change it off; I had to get this to you for some uncontrollable reason. Fish removes the lid. There, on the platter, is a grilled cheese sandwich. She looks at Butch, who is smiling with pride and confusion. She turns around and shouts to nobody. ... ... ... EVERYONE, OUT!!!!!
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May 17, 2016 17:02
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Oh great Fish Mooney is back. Just when the show is getting interesting. 
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Lowtechs posted:Oh great Fish Mooney is back. Just when the show is getting interesting. Yup, such a good run of eps ended here.
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tarlibone posted:EVERYONE, OUT!!!!! FADE IN INT. THE BATCAVE FISH stands before BATMAN, dressed in an outlandish costume made out of re-purposed green trash bags and glitter. FISH So, batman. I HAVE infiltrated your LAIR, and managed to REACH YOU. And now... Don't you want to MAKE me a SANDWICH? BATMAN is at first angry, but as she touches him, the light drains from his eyes and he slowly starts to smile. BATMAN Y... yes, of course. A... A grilled cheese sandwich? FISH laughs maniacally FADE TO FULL SCREEN PHOTOGRAPH OF CHEESE SANDWICH
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May 18, 2016 12:08
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Put some ham in that grilled cheese sandwich to make the show's title a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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May 18, 2016 12:10
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Lowtechs posted:Oh great Fish Mooney is back. Just when the show is getting interesting. Why are people focusing on this instead of the Court of Owls? I mean holy poo poo, Fish was in the ep for less than 5 minutes (pretty inoffensively, too).
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Cryohazard posted:Why are people focusing on this instead of the Court of Owls? I mean holy poo poo, Fish was in the ep for less than 5 minutes (pretty inoffensively, too). What? You think Fish is only going to be a cameo?
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Cryohazard posted:Why are people focusing on this instead of the Court of Owls? I mean holy poo poo, Fish was in the ep for less than 5 minutes (pretty inoffensively, too). You might as well ask, "Why are people focusing on the return of an intensely hated character played in an annoying fashion by an overrated actress instead of this other obscure reference that only the comic book fans even know about?" Except then, well, the answer is kind-of obvious. (Seriously. I've seen more Batman stuff on TV than I care to admit, but I've never seen any comic books featuring him. This is the first I've heard of the Court of Owls, and that's assuming you mean the old lady with the puffy masquerade disguise.)
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The Court of Owls is a recent thing, just from the last couple of years.
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Comic spoilers The Court of Owls is a secret society within Gotham that has secretly controlled Gotham from the very start, made up of the most powerful families in the city. They have all kinds of secret hidy holes all over the city, and control an army of undead assassins called Talons. They were opposed by the Waynes early on, but when they killed the founder of the Wayne's that opposition was gone, and they just let the Waynes operate at their suffrage. Oh they totally know Bruce is Batman and let him do his little costume adventures because it didn't interfere with their plans. Though eventually Bruce discovers them and goes to take them down, and they trap him in a maze full of Lsd water and the issue is pretty cool. I think that's about right, it's been a while since i read the early New52 Batman issues.
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The also feature heavily in Batman vs Robin. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4324274/
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I've missed the last episode, but on the subject of Ivy Pepper: There was a comment in an earlier episode with her character that I don't think ever got touched upon in more recent ones, and I'm sort of surprised given what's been happening at Indian Hill. When Selina finds a sick Ivy somewhere, she tells her she needs to get some medical help or something. Ivy's really sickly response is someting about how she doesn't want to see any more doctors. As the Indian Hill/Pinewood Farms was developing, I was sort of expecting that there'd be a reveal at some point that Ivy was going to turn out to also be part of the Indian Hill/Arkham experimentation or study.
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The thing I found most annoying with Fish was that she grabbed that dude and demanded a Grilled Cheese Sandwhich like that line was supposed to mean something. I was honestly like "wait how does she know she has weird powers". That's completely irrelevant compared to B.D. loving Wong as the absolute goddamn showstealer in like every single scene. Seriously. I'm watching for him and Bullock more than anything else.
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I hate to be "That Guy" here, but I'm playing catch up and avoiding spoilers since I'm only half way through season 2. A friend slipped that Fish comes back, so I'm wondering if anyone knows if it's long term or just a few episodes. I love this show but JP Smith almost annoyed me into giving up in season 1, and if she's back as a regular I don't really want to spend the time catching up just to end up watching her ham it up again.
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Frankenstyle posted:I hate to be "That Guy" here, but I'm playing catch up and avoiding spoilers since I'm only half way through season 2. A friend slipped that Fish comes back, so I'm wondering if anyone knows if it's long term or just a few episodes. I love this show but JP Smith almost annoyed me into giving up in season 1, and if she's back as a regular I don't really want to spend the time catching up just to end up watching her ham it up again. Well, the next eps the season finale ... so you only have one more episode with her! until the cliffhanger when Penguin finds out she's alive and we have to do that all over again next season
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They had an amazing fan-loved character that they murdered because they didn't actually want The Joker yet, but the person they bring back from the dead is stupid Fish Mooney.
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I really hope they go through all this effort to bring her back and then she's just killed in the finale, hopefully via rocket launcher.
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muscles like this? posted:I really hope they go through all this effort to bring her back and then she's just killed in the finale, hopefully via rocket launcher. Such a gloriously beautiful end is too good for her. I want her to raise an army after recruiting yet another heavy in a suit to be her right hand man. (That's her main superpower.) Then, with an army of sandwichmakers, she steps out to reclaim her place on the throne of Gotham's organized crime underworld. Steps out right in front of a bus, I mean. Her army scatters. She gets up, clearly gravely injured, and is promptly hit again, causing her to splatter like that bad guy at the end of Robocop who'd been dipped in toxic waste. Cut to her face, which is laying flat on the pavement.
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Colonial Air Force posted:They had an amazing fan-loved character that they murdered because they didn't actually want The Joker yet, but the person they bring back from the dead is stupid Fish Mooney. Actually, do we know if Strange have Jerome's body?
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Detective No. 27 posted:Actually, do we know if Strange have Jerome's body?
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Jerome was definitely in a vat. Weren't the first few episodes made well before airing though? Surely whilst they must have an inkling which characters will be popular its not really George RR levels of killing off favorites because gently caress you thats why; the guy was only in a handful of episodes at the start of this season.
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twistedmentat posted:Comic spoilers The Court of Owls is a secret society within Gotham that has secretly controlled Gotham from the very start, made up of the most powerful families in the city. They have all kinds of secret hidy holes all over the city, and control an army of undead assassins called Talons. They were opposed by the Waynes early on, but when they killed the founder of the Wayne's that opposition was gone, and they just let the Waynes operate at their suffrage. Oh they totally know Bruce is Batman and let him do his little costume adventures because it didn't interfere with their plans. Though eventually Bruce discovers them and goes to take them down, and they trap him in a maze full of Lsd water and the issue is pretty cool. That sounds super dumb. I hope they do none of that.
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:That sounds super dumb. I hope they do none of that. They have already shown a member of the court so they are coming. I assume that Jerome only had a few episode contract as he has shameless to get back to.
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May 21, 2016 23:16
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Do people really hate Fish? I thought she was great. I mean definitely not in the way the show runners intended but her acting makes Shatner seem subtle.
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May 21, 2016 23:41
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SpookyLizard posted:Do people really hate Fish? I thought she was great. I didn't mind her in season 1, or in this last episode. I don't really get the massive hate-on so many seem to have for her.
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Zebulon posted:I didn't mind her in season 1, or in this last episode. I don't really get the massive hate-on so many seem to have for her. same But I can see how the show spent a bit too much time with her character arc that went nowhere.
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SpookyLizard posted:Do people really hate Fish? I thought she was great. She feels like a hammy over the top villain that'd fit in with 1967 Batman show, but without any self awareness. Cesar Romero and Adam West knew they were playing it absurdly over the top, but Smith gets all cartoony while giving off a vibe like "Rar baby, this pussy has teeth" and it gives me a bad case of second hand embarrassment. Being cocky when you're doing a bad job is just grating.
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Most people were happy when Babs came back after hating her throughout the whole show, so maybe Fish version 2 will be okay too.
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The more sandwiches, the better.
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The biggest problem with Fish is that her stuff is almost always completely disconnected from everyone else's story. Like in season one she had that long rear end story arch about the Dollmaker that went absolutely nowhere.
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