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I think Devil May Cry 3 is better than 4, am I wrong
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Sep 22, 2015 20:19
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That's fine. I prefer DMC4 myself, but DMC3's a fantastic game too.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:21
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I think DMC3 is more stylish and memorable but DMC4 (especially with SE) is mechanically stronger. I would rather play DMC3's plot and DMC4's Blood Palace.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:25
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Zelder posted:I think Devil May Cry 3 is better than 4, am I wrong I think DMC4: SE makes it better, but regular rear end DMC4 is a bit flat, even if it's mechanically awesome I've been playing DMC since the first game and I've loved the series since I was like 14 (gently caress 2 tho) and I have a confession I like DmC quite a bit
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Sep 22, 2015 20:34
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I like the DMC Anime is my confession
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Sep 22, 2015 20:41
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I think DmC isn't bad but I think it'd be pretty much entirely forgotten if it wasn't a DMC reboot. It's pretty much entirely in Heavenly Sword/Enslaved territory for me.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:42
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ImpAtom posted:I think DmC isn't bad but I think it'd be pretty much entirely forgotten if it wasn't a DMC reboot. It's pretty much entirely in Heavenly Sword/Enslaved territory for me. Honestly, I think it would have done a lot better if it wasn't a DMC reboot. It's got plenty of its own style, and having an action brawler IP that features fights against news broadcasters and corrupt business people in a contemporary world could have been interesting. For what it's worth, I think Vergil was right to attempt a sniper rifle abortion on the Antichrist.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:44
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ImpAtom posted:I think DmC isn't bad but I think it'd be pretty much entirely forgotten if it wasn't a DMC reboot. It's pretty much entirely in Heavenly Sword/Enslaved territory for me. I like Enslaved too so that gives you an idea of where I'm coming from, I wasn't instantly offended by the idea of a ninja theory dmc like a lot of hardcore fans Baal posted:I like the DMC Anime is my confession I've never understood the appeal of extended universe out of the game sorta stuff so I've never seen it, I don't come to dmc for the story anyway, though I do enjoy how goofy they can get
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Sep 22, 2015 20:46
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I don't watch it for story, but because I just want more Dante
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Sep 22, 2015 20:47
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Honestly, I think it would have done a lot better if it wasn't a DMC reboot. It's got plenty of its own style, and having an action brawler IP that features fights against news broadcasters and corrupt business people in a contemporary world could have been interesting. I think the story would have still been considered pretty laughable. It is edgy but the sort of tryhard edgy that tends to turn people off. The idea of being punk-style criticism and counterculture is cool but DmC is more like your dad's idea of that. (Almost literally, there's a huge dated feel to it, with attempts made to modernize it by doing references to at-the-time current political trends.) It probably would have gotten less overt negativity for sure but I don't think it would have actually done much for its popularity. It wasn't able to stand on its own two legs despite generally positive reviews and it wasn't able to form a long-term fanbase outside of upset DMC fans. Even people who really liked DmC don't seem to have really stuck with it. Edit: Like, I honestly think it did about as well as it would have done. Less negativity would have helped it but it would have been balanced by it being a new IP by a mildly-successful developer which makes it easy to overlook, and without the backlash they probably wouldn't have polished the combat as much as they did. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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Sep 22, 2015 20:47
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well according to the itsuno summary stuff that was posted from the artbook he had to really guide them on gameplay design stuff so yeah it probably would've been the usual ninja theory shitheap instead of "the most competent western dmc knockoff" i remember reading some quote by the ninja theory combat designer who was like "yeah i played the dmc games for the first time ever a week before starting my design for this game so i could understand what to do" 100% seriously maybe that was made up its really hard to tell for that game
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Sep 23, 2015 01:03
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Man. I just have no idea if I'm getting better with Vergil. There are certain attacks which just hit me every now and then (when the Mephistos do their spinning charge), and I either completely demolish Blitzes or they do a lot of damage to me. I got to the 70s earlier today on BP, and then just now died at Berial (where I commonly have trouble because I can't dodge his big fireball). Usually when I do really well it's because I'm spamming Rapid Slash JFJC, which tbqh isn't really very fun or stylish. edit: Like, now I'm trying to figure out how to Drive Cancel so I can be a lot more viable with Force Edge. I basically default to Yamato as soon as I get in trouble so I can dash around and JFJC and I'd rather be more well-rounded. edit2: well, whatever, I figured out Berial and no-dmg'd him. This game. mune fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 02:05
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Zelder posted:I think Devil May Cry 3 is better than 4, am I wrong Nah, I agree. DMC4SE Vergil is king poo poo of the playable characters though, with all-styles-anytime Uncle Dante second because his moveset is lamer compared to DMC3 Dante's moveset.
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Sep 23, 2015 12:23
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Zelder posted:I think Devil May Cry 3 is better than 4, am I wrong I think that's more common than people liking 4 over 3. 4 is almost entirely better in moment-to-moment play (or like ImpAtom put it, it's much better in Bloody Palace because Dante is such a well-realized character and the game doesn't have DMC3's terrible enemies weighing it down), but 3 has more, better, and less annoyingly gimmicky stages (that is, it has a better campaign). I like 4 more than 3 ultimately but they are both kind of flawed. Of course DMC1, lacking both games' egregious flaws, is definitely better than either.
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Sep 23, 2015 13:08
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I loved DMC1's weightier combat and enemy designs, and all it needed was a mission select so you wouldn't need to keep loads of save files, as well as a bloody palace. You did tend to fight the same bosses up to three times, and the gimmick sections like first person underwater combat and Star Fox-style final boss form weren't necessary. DMC4 combines the best from both 1 and 3 for me, with Nero and the enemies feeling like modernised versions of the first game, with Dante being himself from 3, but without the need to grind his styles or choose which loadout to bring with you.
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Sep 23, 2015 13:27
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I like DMC1 a lot. I think it's a really different style of game though. It's a lot more akin to the Resident Evil styling. You've only got two weapons (technically four but Force Edge/Sparda effectively sit in your inventory for most of the game.) It's got weighter enemies more built around specific exploiting than freeform combo system and a lot more of the more complex combat mechanics haven't evolved yet. I certainly think ti has the best enemy design in the series overall though.
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Sep 23, 2015 14:57
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dmc1 has trish so it's good but also it feels so clunky man i just wanna be doin wild and crazy poo poo and instead it's like cool i guess i swung my sword and shot a gun or did a move wooo actually it doesn't even have gun stinger that game SUCKS p.s. here's some unused content in dmc4se why is it unused? who knows 
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Sep 25, 2015 07:27
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Fereydun posted:p.s. here's some unused content in dmc4se Hey, that's the final part of DMC3 Vergil's standard Force Edge combo. TBH there's some move variations from DMC3 I would've preferred over what Vergil got in DMC4:SE, but oh well
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Sep 25, 2015 16:14
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It's also glowing blue instead of black for what I assume is round trip, that's kind of neat. Wonder why they changed it.
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Sep 29, 2015 07:58
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I don't know if it's actually glowing blue because of the game or because tabs like having glowing effects on swords when he messes around with mods.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:05
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Baal posted:I don't know if it's actually glowing blue because of the game or because tabs like having glowing effects on swords when he messes around with mods.  though it doesn't go away until you change rooms it looks cool as gently caress though and makes me wish he just had a summon sword force edge 100% of the time instead of the actual one. like he just summons it for the attack and it breaks on every attack ender or whatever i ended up making a bunch because i get bored of vanilla colors quickly 
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Oct 5, 2015 05:49
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Fereydun posted:it looks cool as gently caress though and makes me wish he just had a summon sword force edge 100% of the time instead of the actual one. Red Yamato looks badass as gently caress; reminds me of Sam in Revengeance. I think I'll get this mod...
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Oct 5, 2015 16:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbfWY-3EKoE a good rear end combo video featuring all the new chars well maybe mute the audio, i dunno
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Oct 6, 2015 02:14
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gently caressquote:Capcom producer Hiroyuki Kobayashi.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:16
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Baal you really need to curb your enthusiasm for Reuben Langdon. He's an awesome actor for sure, but he's also a crazy person that believes in crystal healing and UFO conspiracies.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:23
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Neo_Crimson posted:Baal you really need to curb your enthusiasm for Reuben Langdon. He's an awesome actor for sure, but he's also a crazy person that believes in crystal healing and UFO conspiracies.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:25
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Neo_Crimson posted:Baal you really need to curb your enthusiasm for Reuben Langdon. He's an awesome actor for sure, but he's also a crazy person that believes in crystal healing and UFO conspiracies. So what you're telling me is he's better than I thought?
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Oct 6, 2015 19:30
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No worries, let's see how the PC version of Dragon's Dogma does first before we expect Capcom to make plans for a character-action game again. Neo_Crimson posted:Baal you really need to curb your enthusiasm for Reuben Langdon. He's an awesome actor for sure, but he's also a crazy person that believes in crystal healing and UFO conspiracies. It's cool with me man, as long as he's not a racist or some other hosed up thing he can believe what he wants
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Oct 7, 2015 12:01
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You should never encourage someone to feel less about something they love. I hope Baal personally gets to shower Reuben Langdon with the praise he deserves one day.
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Oct 7, 2015 12:05
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Is the version of 3 on the HD collection the Special Edition one? And does it have the reduced difficulty thing that the special edition did?
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Oct 7, 2015 12:07
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Aurain posted:You should never encourage someone to feel less about something they love. I hope Baal personally gets to shower Reuben Langdon with the praise he deserves one day. I'm going to get him to autograph my copy of DMC4 and then marry his voice
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Oct 7, 2015 13:36
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Yeah Bro posted:Is the version of 3 on the HD collection the Special Edition one? And does it have the reduced difficulty thing that the special edition did? Yes
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Oct 7, 2015 13:36
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Baal posted:Yes drat. I liked how hard the standard edition was.
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Oct 7, 2015 14:08
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Isn't the only change that dying just resets you to the start of the level? You can always just reset manually, mate.
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Oct 7, 2015 15:17
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a cartoon duck posted:Isn't the only change that dying just resets you to the start of the level? You can always just reset manually, mate. Son of Sparda was also the default mode, so the special edition makes you have to do a run through of normal where you're getting proud souls and weapons and stuff before you can play SoS, which makes the game so much easier.
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Oct 7, 2015 15:46
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Even if Devil May Cry 5
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Oct 7, 2015 15:54
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Aurain posted:You should never encourage someone to feel less about something they love. I hope Baal personally gets to shower Reuben Langdon with the praise he deserves one day. Shower him with something anyway
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Oct 8, 2015 12:57
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i never noticed how different the dmc3 and dmc4 shotgun sounds were until i actually put them in a video together why did they change that holy hell the dmc3 shotgun sound is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4aoSpKzp38&t=16s
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Oct 9, 2015 10:43
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Just want a remastered version of DMC1 for PC, or a HD Collection for Steam. It's a pipe dream, though.
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Oct 10, 2015 08:22
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Yeah Bro posted:Son of Sparda was also the default mode, so the special edition makes you have to do a run through of normal where you're getting proud souls and weapons and stuff before you can play SoS, which makes the game so much easier. There's a code to unlock all difficulties (and costumes and gallery pictures etc). At the title screen, Hold R1 + R2 + L1 + L2 + D-pad Up/Left + Left Analog-stick Down/Right (stolen from GameFaqs). Also pick "Yellow" instead of "Gold" after selecting New Game and you'll get the original continue system instead of the new one. Then afaik the experience will be the same as the original aside from having the extra Jester fights. I haven't played the HD version of this yet but I'm assuming those things are still in the game.
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Oct 10, 2015 08:32
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