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Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
I don't think this is the right thread for your "views".

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Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

BattleMoose posted:

Considering homosexuality exists within the entire natural kingdom, to deny that its natural, is to go against all the evidence. And I would describe as remarkably stupid.

Human nature and animal nature are different. That's basically the definition of ethics.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

BattleMoose posted:

You know humans are animals, right? And not at all sure what ethics has to do with concept of homosexuality being natural.

Is this some kind of rhetorical device? Or can you sincerely not handle the following arguments:

1) Humans and animals are fundamentally different according to practically every philosophical tradition
2) The concept of "natural" can mean something other than "it exists", and is pretty important to many ethical principles

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
Humans live in a society. Society has principles other than "do what you feel like". I don't think it's worth pursuing this unless you're willing to acknowledge that.

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