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I asked this in the GBS thread but never got a reply, so: Tell me about Ibadis and Ahmadiyyas, the sects everyone always forgets about.
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A more substantial question: What's the process for officially converting? Is it just "say so on the census," or is there a test, or do you talk with an imam, or what? Religious conversion in general from one faith to another (instead of just to a different branch of the same faith) is very interesting to me. Also, how do you feel about Baha'is? I know a ton of Muslims consider us to be apostates.
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Sep 27, 2015 04:23
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What's your opinion on the "72 virgins" thing? Do you think it's an accurate translation, or do you hold the view that it's supposed to be read as "72 pure people" or "72 of a particular kind of grape" as some scholars believe?* *hooray for foreign language homophones and figures of speech 
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Sep 28, 2015 22:33
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I think it sounds like a better word for sabr might be perseverance?
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Sep 30, 2015 18:33
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You're right that no reasonable person would consider any of those things acceptable today, but you also have to look at them in the context of the time—while Islam sadly hasn't progressed quite as far as a lot of other major religions have, the fact is that none of those things were remotely unusual for the time that it was established, whether in Arabia or elsewhere. Slavery in one form or another was practiced in a huge number of societies around the world until within just the last few hundred years. Islam's relative (but not total) lack of progression makes it misogynistic by today's standards, but at the time of its founding it was more progressive than pre-Islamic Arabian society, and did things like put a limit on the number of wives that a man could have, and although that limit was more than one, it was still a limit where none had previously existed. And gross as they are, child brides weren't exactly unheard of in Europe during the same time, either. Context is important. You have to remember that in the late 500s and early 600s when Muhammad (pbuh) lived, the world in general was a hosed-up place. It doesn't remotely excuse it, but it does mean that we have to be careful in how we apply our own views to our judgments of the past.
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Oct 1, 2015 11:51
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The way I've always seen the Hadith is like unofficial tie-in novels to a movie. Some of them might be pretty good, but a lot of them are probably bad and nobody'll really agree whether or not they're canon because the person who wrote the movie is dead.
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Oct 2, 2015 11:38
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So what does Islam say about body modification? Even basic stuff like tats and piercings.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:25
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Amun Khonsu posted:Body modification outside of necessity (like tattoos) is generally considered forbidden. Ear piercings (even nose according to some in South East Asia) are allowed for women, but other piercings also are generally considered forbidden. If someone already has them, however, they are not required to remove them or modify them, except if it is something incredibly vulgar.
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Oct 14, 2015 03:58
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goose fleet posted:Were any features of the ancient religions of Arabia incorporated into Islam, similar to how Christianity adopted some of the old pagan rituals of Europe? Anyway I thought of a stupid and really nerdy hypothetical question: If, one day in the indeterminately-far future, we have Star Trek style food replicators, would it be halal to eat otherwise-forbidden food like pork as long as it was replicated, since it wouldn't technically have come from a pig or whatever, or would it still be haraam and the intent more important than the origin?
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Oct 31, 2015 00:11
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I would hope music is allowed, or Chalf Hassan and Omar Faruk Tekbilek are in big trouble.
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Nov 1, 2015 05:35
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I'm an atheist but this thread is making me want to convert to something just to spite the pushy, evangelical atheists who are just as irritating as the people they hate.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:50
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So I got Tendai's opinion earlier, but I want to ask our other Muslim friends who've since come in: How do y'all feel about Baha'is? I don't mean the opinion of your local Imam, or the official position of one country or another (I already know where Iran stands), I'm talking about specifically the people in this thread and your personal beliefs and feelings. I was raised Baha'i, and although I'm not a believer any more it's still been an influence on me.
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Jan 1, 2016 21:02
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I might have missed this, but on the "who does and doesn't go to heaven" discussion, what about people of non-Abrahamic faiths, or no faith at all, who nonetheless lived good lives? Will the Dalai Lama go to heaven, for example?
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Jan 6, 2016 02:44
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Jastiger posted:When the requirement to face Mecca was put in, was it known that the world was round, and not flat with a firmament yet? I feel like that's pretty important.
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