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Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul
Wall of text crits you, etc.

To be fair, I only live in the library during business hours. The rest of the time I'm in my car. I figured, "Hey, I need electricity, and internet, and bathrooms. I'm pretty sure the library has those things!" It seems I'm not the first homeless person to come to that realization. The first day, I saw a young woman sitting in the small lobby of the library, bent over her phone. I went in, found a seat, and proceeded to figure out where I could plug in my laptop, how to access the wifi, and so on. A couple hours later, I went out to my car to eat some dry cereal (ask me about the homelessness diet), and the young lady was still there. She was still there a few hours after that. She was still there when I left at closing time. The next day, when I arrived, she was back (or still) on that bench.

I then discovered a small room in the corner of the library, where there are five or six divided desks, and lots of power outlets. I grabbed a seat, unloaded my laptop, and plugged in. I heard someone talking, and I turned around to see a middle-aged black woman with one of those homeless-chic wire carts standing at one of the desks. She was scrubbing it furiously with paper towels and cleaner she kept hanging from her cart in a bag. She did a very thorough job of cleaning the desk, and the chair. Apparently not satisfied, she took the additional precaution of covering the chair in plastic shopping bags, but she never sat in the chair. She stood for 8+ hours, leaning over what I presume to be a laptop, while taking notes on a pad of paper she had on the desk. She talked to herself a bit, and occasionally got a grin on her face and broke out some dance moves. Several times, she loudly admonished the man seated behind me for swearing. I heard her say the library wasn't the place to be if he couldn't control his Tourette's. I could only hear her through my headphones, and thought she was yelling at ghosts. Later, I realized the guy behind me was playing some sort of online game, and swearing viciously at it. At the end of the day, the lady packed up her cart, and headed out, past the young woman who was still sitting hunched over her phone on the bench in the lobby.

That was my second day in the library, but my first in the wifi room/makeshift homeless shelter. As I was leaving that night, I saw the young woman from the lobby duck into the library at the last minute, presumably to use the bathroom, then exit the building, pulling a wheeled cart behind her. I passed her a bit later, while I was looking for somewhere to park and sleep that wouldn't end with me being harassed. She was heading back behind an Autozone, where there is always a large contingent of local homeless, with shopping carts full of their possessions.

Waiting for the library to open sucks. The heat is waning here in Las Vegas, but it is still brutal when you're sealed into a vehicle, with the sun beating down through the windows. The third morning was especially hot, and I was soaked with sweat. I have very little fuel, and most gas stations and such around here are very hostile to people using their restrooms. I did my best to clean myself off. I'm sure I was quite a sight, standing half-naked and rubbing myself down with a t-shirt. When I arrived at the library, the young woman was in her sport on the bench. The middle-aged lady was standing at "her" desk. I settled into the same seat I'd taken the day before. I could feel a habit forming.

I noticed the desk in the back corner was occupied by the same guy who'd been there the day before. He hadn't really stood out, except for his ratty taped-together headphones. This time, I noticed that he had a tripled-up shopping bag full of water bottles. I had spotted another one! It turns out he also has one of those carts. Apparently they fold up into tiny little packages. Miracles of technology, I tell you. A bit later, the desk closest to the doorway was taken by a guy who looked a bit familiar. Oh, yeah. I know him. He sat there all day the first day I spent in the wifi room, eating lunch meat from one of those packages you buy off he rack, instead of at the deli counter. He's one of us.

Almost every day since has passed in much the same manner. I walk in past the woman in the lobby. She never looks up. We regulars stake out our seats early, and others drift in and out over the course of the day. I'm looking for jobs, and taking online courses in developing for Android, hoping to become employable once more. Ask me about developing on my ancient Walmart laptop, with a 1366x768 display and 2-rpm hard drive. The corner guy seems to be mostly watching movies, and I think torrenting. The clean lady is here some days, but not all days. I'm not sure what she's doing, but given her intensity, and the number of hours she spends on it, it's something she thinks is pretty important. The young woman in the lobby has been a fixture, always hunched over her phone, and never coming into the library except for that closing-time bathroom visit.

Today, we had a living stereotype crazy street person pay a visit to the library. He was sun-leathered, and dirty. He was holding his pants up with one hand, and yelling angrily at someone only he could see. The guard escorted him out, and the guy stood out in the sun, screaming, and swearing, and gesturing at what, to me, looked like a support pillar for the library's entryway. I think he saw something else. He was way to young to look so worn. Some guy in the lobby joked with the security guard about the mentally ill man fighting with himself on the curb outside. The man in the lobby laughed numerous times, and made comments to other people as they came in. Apparently there is nothing funnier than living, breathing proof of our complete failure as human beings and as a society to take care of those who need help. Ha ha. It made my blood boil. That sort of poo poo made my blood boil even when I had a good job, and a nice place to live. It was all I could do not shout at the rear end in a top hat, but I live at the library, now. I don't want to be the next person they escort out of the building.

We also had a potential addition to our crew come in today, but I don't think he's going to make the cut. He only stayed a few of hours, and he spent most of that napping in his chair.

I found this after the room emptied out the other day.

My first suspect was the clean lady, but it wasn't at her desk.

Tonight, and in the morning, I'll stop at some fast food places and grocery stores to ask about jobs. So far, I haven't had any luck with that. They don't seem to care that I can build a nice LAMP stack for them, or configure Nginx with php-fpm to serve low-latency dynamic pages to their customers. They do seem to care that I'm not bilingual, and that my last service job was when I was sixteen years old.

The girl wasn't in the lobby yesterday, and she's not in the lobby today. I'm worried about her, and I hope she's alright.

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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

get a job OP

like a real one involving a shovel

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

although tbh sitting in your car during the heat of the day might give you a leg up on fitting in with the rest of the android community, which is also homeless

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord

Centripetal Horse posted:

Wall of text crits you, etc.

To be fair, I only live in the library during business hours. The rest of the time I'm in my car. I figured, "Hey, I need electricity, and internet, and bathrooms. I'm pretty sure the library has those things!" It seems I'm not the first homeless person to come to that realization. The first day, I saw a young woman sitting in the small lobby of the library, bent over her phone. I went in, found a seat, and proceeded to figure out where I could plug in my laptop, how to access the wifi, and so on. A couple hours later, I went out to my car to eat some dry cereal (ask me about the homelessness diet), and the young lady was still there. She was still there a few hours after that. She was still there when I left at closing time. The next day, when I arrived, she was back (or still) on that bench.

I then discovered a small room in the corner of the library, where there are five or six divided desks, and lots of power outlets. I grabbed a seat, unloaded my laptop, and plugged in. I heard someone talking, and I turned around to see a middle-aged black woman with one of those homeless-chic wire carts standing at one of the desks. She was scrubbing it furiously with paper towels and cleaner she kept hanging from her cart in a bag. She did a very thorough job of cleaning the desk, and the chair. Apparently not satisfied, she took the additional precaution of covering the chair in plastic shopping bags, but she never sat in the chair. She stood for 8+ hours, leaning over what I presume to be a laptop, while taking notes on a pad of paper she had on the desk. She talked to herself a bit, and occasionally got a grin on her face and broke out some dance moves. Several times, she loudly admonished the man seated behind me for swearing. I heard her say the library wasn't the place to be if he couldn't control his Tourette's. I could only hear her through my headphones, and thought she was yelling at ghosts. Later, I realized the guy behind me was playing some sort of online game, and swearing viciously at it. At the end of the day, the lady packed up her cart, and headed out, past the young woman who was still sitting hunched over her phone on the bench in the lobby.

That was my second day in the library, but my first in the wifi room/makeshift homeless shelter. As I was leaving that night, I saw the young woman from the lobby duck into the library at the last minute, presumably to use the bathroom, then exit the building, pulling a wheeled cart behind her. I passed her a bit later, while I was looking for somewhere to park and sleep that wouldn't end with me being harassed. She was heading back behind an Autozone, where there is always a large contingent of local homeless, with shopping carts full of their possessions.

Waiting for the library to open sucks. The heat is waning here in Las Vegas, but it is still brutal when you're sealed into a vehicle, with the sun beating down through the windows. The third morning was especially hot, and I was soaked with sweat. I have very little fuel, and most gas stations and such around here are very hostile to people using their restrooms. I did my best to clean myself off. I'm sure I was quite a sight, standing half-naked and rubbing myself down with a t-shirt. When I arrived at the library, the young woman was in her sport on the bench. The middle-aged lady was standing at "her" desk. I settled into the same seat I'd taken the day before. I could feel a habit forming.

I noticed the desk in the back corner was occupied by the same guy who'd been there the day before. He hadn't really stood out, except for his ratty taped-together headphones. This time, I noticed that he had a tripled-up shopping bag full of water bottles. I had spotted another one! It turns out he also has one of those carts. Apparently they fold up into tiny little packages. Miracles of technology, I tell you. A bit later, the desk closest to the doorway was taken by a guy who looked a bit familiar. Oh, yeah. I know him. He sat there all day the first day I spent in the wifi room, eating lunch meat from one of those packages you buy off he rack, instead of at the deli counter. He's one of us.

Almost every day since has passed in much the same manner. I walk in past the woman in the lobby. She never looks up. We regulars stake out our seats early, and others drift in and out over the course of the day. I'm looking for jobs, and taking online courses in developing for Android, hoping to become employable once more. Ask me about developing on my ancient Walmart laptop, with a 1366x768 display and 2-rpm hard drive. The corner guy seems to be mostly watching movies, and I think torrenting. The clean lady is here some days, but not all days. I'm not sure what she's doing, but given her intensity, and the number of hours she spends on it, it's something she thinks is pretty important. The young woman in the lobby has been a fixture, always hunched over her phone, and never coming into the library except for that closing-time bathroom visit.

Today, we had a living stereotype crazy street person pay a visit to the library. He was sun-leathered, and dirty. He was holding his pants up with one hand, and yelling angrily at someone only he could see. The guard escorted him out, and the guy stood out in the sun, screaming, and swearing, and gesturing at what, to me, looked like a support pillar for the library's entryway. I think he saw something else. He was way to young to look so worn. Some guy in the lobby joked with the security guard about the mentally ill man fighting with himself on the curb outside. The man in the lobby laughed numerous times, and made comments to other people as they came in. Apparently there is nothing funnier than living, breathing proof of our complete failure as human beings and as a society to take care of those who need help. Ha ha. It made my blood boil. That sort of poo poo made my blood boil even when I had a good job, and a nice place to live. It was all I could do not shout at the rear end in a top hat, but I live at the library, now. I don't want to be the next person they escort out of the building.

We also had a potential addition to our crew come in today, but I don't think he's going to make the cut. He only stayed a few of hours, and he spent most of that napping in his chair.

I found this after the room emptied out the other day.

My first suspect was the clean lady, but it wasn't at her desk.

Tonight, and in the morning, I'll stop at some fast food places and grocery stores to ask about jobs. So far, I haven't had any luck with that. They don't seem to care that I can build a nice LAMP stack for them, or configure Nginx with php-fpm to serve low-latency dynamic pages to their customers. They do seem to care that I'm not bilingual, and that my last service job was when I was sixteen years old.

The girl wasn't in the lobby yesterday, and she's not in the lobby today. I'm worried about her, and I hope she's alright.

hosed up if false

Docahedron
May 11, 2008

Im a special snowflake

Centripetal Horse posted:

A couple hours later, I went out to my car to eat some dry cereal (ask me about the homelessness diet)

How is the homelessness diet treating you

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Good luck OP, stay strong.


If you aren't addicted to any drugs and know how to budget, you seem smart enough to get back in a more comfortable situation soon. Maybe try doing some temp work from an agency as a way to get a foot in the door at a company, figure out what their needs are, and tailor your studies towards that.

God bless

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Since you have s computer and free internet maybe check out the "how to make money online " thread and try your hand at typing stuff or online tutoring

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
Start wearing a dress and smear some red lipstick on ur face

Beat yourself up and destroy your cock and balls with a ballpeen hammer

Accuse (loudly, and via Social Media) the Police of smashing ur cock to bits

Sit back and reap the rewards as a million twitter shitlords donate money for your 'reconstruction' which actually means crack and all the booze you can drink

enjoy :)

insulated staircase
Aug 21, 2014

have you thought about having sexual intercourse with the other library residents?

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
Actually I just read your post properly and now I feel sorry for your situation op so please don't crush ur manhood with a hammer :(

Why are you homeless? Bad breakup? move to a new town with no money?

Can't move home with ur folks lots of android coders are doing that these days...

What about joining the military or police?

ceaselessfuture
Apr 9, 2005

"I'm thirty," I said. "I'm five years too old to lie to myself and call it honor."
keep posting updates :)

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
I should warn any would-be library-dwellers that public library policies towards the homeless vary considerably. Some libraries take their commitment to serving everyone in the community seriously and will welcome homeless people that don't make trouble (e.g. screaming obscenities, destroying the books, attacking people), but some librarians are NIMBYs that will kick homeless people to the curb no matter how they act. Check your local library's rules on their website - if there are rules against things like having bad BO, sleeping on the furniture, and washing yourself in the bathroom sinks, it is probably not a very homeless-friendly place. (In fact, checking the rules at your local library is a good idea for everybody, just so you'll know what you can't get away with there.)

I once knew a public librarian who said that all the homeless people in the community used his library. Unlike a homeless shelter, a library is a respectable place, so nobody felt ashamed to go there. They'd come every day to hang out, then set up a tent in the woods or sleep in their cars after the place closed. The library was also a hiding place for people who were being domestically abused. They'd come in and tell the librarian on duty "Hey, if What'stheirface shows up asking about me, tell them I'm not here, okay? Thanks." and if What'stheirface came in and asked, the librarian would cover for the abused person.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
Op how the heck can you know computers but not find a job? Even I have a developer job and I don't know poo poo outside of how to make sites with wordpress

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
good luck, op... at least you have a laptop

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
its like the matrix

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Kuato posted:

hosed up if false

The entire story is true. I guess that means... not hosed up?


Docahedron posted:

How is the homelessness diet treating you

It's harsh, but fair. I am definitely losing a lot of weight.


Commie NedFlanders posted:

If you aren't addicted to any drugs and know how to budget, you seem smart enough to get back in a more comfortable situation soon. Maybe try doing some temp work from an agency as a way to get a foot in the door at a company, figure out what their needs are, and tailor your studies towards that.

No drug addictions, here. I have been to a couple of temp agencies. So far, nothing. I can't currently do the physical jobs I used to do, and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of office work for my demographic. I'm too old, or too ugly, or too male, or too stupid, or something.

I've actually been all up in the making money online thread for months. I sped through the Leapforce qualifications. People were talking about weeks and months, but they approved me for each stage within a couple of days, sometimes mere hours. They loved everything I did up until they approved me, then it was nothing but bad reviews until I gave up. I spent huge amounts of time on their simulator, but every time I did actual work for them, they were unsatisfied.

Jeff Sichoe posted:

Start wearing a dress and smear some red lipstick on ur face

Beat yourself up and destroy your cock and balls with a ballpeen hammer

Accuse (loudly, and via Social Media) the Police of smashing ur cock to bits

Sit back and reap the rewards as a million twitter shitlords donate money for your 'reconstruction' which actually means crack and all the booze you can drink

enjoy :)

Do you have a version of this that does require me to destroy my cock and balls? Maybe I can just use pictures of other people's destroyed cocks and balls.


a real jerk posted:

have you thought about having sexual intercourse with the other library residents?

Yes, but that doesn't solve the root problem.



Jeff Sichoe posted:

Why are you homeless? Bad breakup? move to a new town with no money?

Can't move home with ur folks lots of android coders are doing that these days...

What about joining the military or police?

A bunch of health problems revealed themselves shortly after I lost my last job. Those problems shut off a lot of standard fallbacks, like manual labor. I have very little family, and we are not close. If I have to chose between dying on the streets and going back to that environment, I choose dying on the streets, and it's not a tough choice to make. Not that any help has been offered. I'm old and have health issues. The military would not be interested.

Edit: I see some other questions came up while I was crafting this reply. I will try to get to them before the library closes. Otherwise, I plan to be back here as soon as it opens in the morning, barring arrest or murder.

Centripetal Horse fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Sep 23, 2015

ArmTheHomeless
Jan 10, 2003

I'm also in Vegas if you ever need a sandwich or anything

Topographic Nap
Apr 22, 2007

Me and Frank have a book pissin' contest every Friday - you're welcome to join OP

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
OP, out of curiosity, what are the rules at your library? Do any interesting ones stand out?

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
have you guys ever seen that movie "twister"? fricken wicked tornado scenes...

Hot Cosby
Sep 23, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo
you should get a house with a yard op, it owns

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

maybe you should try taking the advice on that sheet of paper the person left.

Masturbasturd
Sep 1, 2014
I died at the library :feelsgood:

Dial-a-Dog
May 22, 2001
Do you think you write such long posts because you're surrounded by books all day

Sponge Baathist
Jan 30, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
They left off the part where if you can wipe your own butt don't forget to take off your pants off first.

ROFLburger
Jan 12, 2006
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penis

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
you should try to stay overnight and see if the characters come to life off the pages of their books

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Since you have s computer and free internet maybe check out the "how to make money online " thread and try your hand at typing stuff or online tutoring

PM me if you have a 4-year degree i can set you up with math or ESL tutoring.

edit: completely serious, i want to help you.

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
I'm being serious here but what about taking it in the butt for $ or sucking dix for $ ?

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
suck some dick

Al Borland
Oct 29, 2006

by XyloJW
Hunt down the homeless OP. They're all competing for your jobs.

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
i like how millennials exaggerate so much. pretty frikken entitled imo

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

ceaselessfuture posted:

keep posting updates :)

As long as people are interested, and I am able, I will.


Pththya-lyi posted:

I should warn any would-be library-dwellers that public library policies towards the homeless vary considerably.

True, although I think they all frown on filthy vagrants screaming obscenities. Check with your local institution, though.


Nooner posted:

Op how the heck can you know computers but not find a job? Even I have a developer job and I don't know poo poo outside of how to make sites with wordpress

Good loving question. Apparently I know all the wrong poo poo or something. I just built an entire e-commerce site with multiple vendors, Sphinx-backed search, an interface to a custom payment processing gateway, private messaging, etc, from scratch using PHP and Laravel 5. Apparently that's not even worth a call back after submitting a resume. I can configure a LAMP setup in my sleep. I once built a Usenet binary indexer that ran on a poo poo server and had instant full-text searching on a 750,000,000-row database. I noticed a lot of call for Angular.js, so the day after I put up a little resume site, I went back and redid it in Angular, which I had never read a single thing about until that day. It's super-simple Angular, with just a few routes and a menu, but it works. If you look at my posts in the Cavern of COBOL screenshots thread, you'll see other websites I built just for the hell of it, and an implementation of EvoLisa I wrote in C#. None of that makes me employable. To be fair, I'm not enterprise level in any of those things, probably.


UglyCrackBaby posted:

I'm also in Vegas if you ever need a sandwich or anything

Pfft, I always need a sandwich, but I wouldn't even know how to go about accepting one from a stranger. Thank you, though. I've lost a ton of weight, but I can afford to lose a lot more. I just need to make sure I get enough vitamins.



Pththya-lyi posted:

OP, out of curiosity, what are the rules at your library? Do any interesting ones stand out?

Nothing notable so far. They seem pretty laid back. I am actually surprised at how nicely provisioned this library is, given that Las Vegas is not exactly culture central.


Cnut the Great posted:

you should try to stay overnight and see if the characters come to life off the pages of their books

I am totally down for this, but they're pretty on top of running us out. I just got the "we're closing the room in 20 minutes" warning from a guard.

They also check the toilets just before locking them up.



PHIZ KALIFA posted:

PM me if you have a 4-year degree i can set you up with math or ESL tutoring.

edit: completely serious, i want to help you.

I am guessing that was aimed at me. Thank you, but I do not have a degree. I have nine college credits I got on a whim after getting my GED when I was like 27 years old. I did do some shady ESL tutoring today, by chance. An older Asian woman brought her book over to me and asked for help with a question. I told her that the answer was, "On Friday, he's coming over for dinner," as opposed to, "at Friday," or, "in Friday." I am English master language of.


Jeff Sichoe posted:

I'm being serious here but what about taking it in the butt for $ or sucking dix for $ ?

No one wants me to suck his dick. I am getting uglier as I lose weight, since it leaves skin hanging around, and living in your car isn't good for your overall health and appearance. Plus, some big cancer thing just appeared on my face. I prefer to use my butt as an exit ramp.

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
heh heh you got some pep i'll give ya that

gl homeless goon i'll pray for u tonight

Vitalis Jackson
May 14, 2009

Sun and water are healthy for you -- but not for your hair!
Fun Shoe
Honestly, though, leave Las Vegas. It's not a good place for unemployed people. You should try one of the Midwestern "red" states. Some of those (like Nebraska) have unemployment rates of under 4%, although admittedly the wages are often substandard. In any event, I strongly urge you to leave Las Vegas. That city can damage a person.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Jeff Sichoe posted:

heh heh you got some pep i'll give ya that

gl homeless goon i'll pray for u tonight

This but unironically, take care OP

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

Centripetal Horse posted:

I am guessing that was aimed at me. Thank you, but I do not have a degree. I have nine college credits I got on a whim after getting my GED when I was like 27 years old. I did do some shady ESL tutoring today, by chance. An older Asian woman brought her book over to me and asked for help with a question. I told her that the answer was, "On Friday, he's coming over for dinner," as opposed to, "at Friday," or, "in Friday." I am English master language of.

WyzAnt doesn't require 4 year degrees, you could use it to find local folk who want to learn your tech mastery. theyve even got an online classroom now.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
Look for work in Salt Lake city, there's tech jobs out the wazoo and the LDS (that's mormons) are pretty drat kind to homeless, though they will often proselytize. It's 420mi from Las Vegas, that's barely more than one tank of gas. Also SLC will give you a place to live even if you don't have a job. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/housing-first-solution-to-homelessness-utah

But please give us more stories first.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
hello from the goldmine

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

i Live in the Library and I make Social Justice Posts

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