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Wizardopogarchy, thanks OP.
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EvilGenius posted:OK, but I'm talking about removing ideology from government. Lol someone is confused about the world and human beings.
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Sep 24, 2015 14:58
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This thread is fun because I can't tell the difference between joke posts and genuine flailing infants with no understanding of government or politics or even like brain thoughts. "Let's just remove ideological context from decisions" fuckin lol
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Sep 24, 2015 16:38
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DrProsek posted:Removing ideology from politics is nonsense for the simple reason that there are many issues we don't need a cost/benefit analysis for. There is no good financial reason to take in refugees rather than refusing them at the border. I fully concede that you will not make your moneys worth from the refugees, and yet I feel every European nation has a moral obligation to accept the refugees that are coming to Europe. This is what we call ideology. Cost/benefit analysis is itself part of an ideological framework. 
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Sep 24, 2015 18:48
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asdf32 posted:No it's not this simple. Part of the problem is that our language intertwines a few things into the word ideology. Part of ideology is a person's overarching ideas, goals and moral guidelines. We can't operate as humans without these. But the other aspect is the implementation of those goals and the extent to which we allow utility to enter the equation. So while we can never separate politics, or existence for that matter from ideology, we can (and must) still classify people or ideas as being more or less ideological. Maybe you need a better word.
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