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projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Ibram Gaunt posted:

Not sure how to feel about a 35 dollar season pass. Even though it probably is a big discount than buying everything as it comes out.

I'm not planning on getting it, because I wasn't planning on getting most of the characters.

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5er
Jun 1, 2000


One thing that sucks about PSN is that you can't rely on them to have the crazy holiday fire sales like Steam does. But, sometimes DLC goes up on Plus at a reduced cost. I am going to hold off on the pass and cross my fingers for a sale. I don't see Disgaea pulling huge numbers, which means poo poo often goes on sale sooner.

mune
Sep 23, 2006
It's weird trying to figure out some of the game mechanics. Like I have no idea what making a captive into a citizen does. The game doesn't explain it except for 'this is good.' Thanks game.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Uh. Is anyone elses preorder DLC code not working? I just got mine in an email from NISA but PSN just tells me its incorrect...

EDIT: Nevermind, seems this effects everyone atm.

Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Oct 6, 2015

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Ibram Gaunt posted:

Uh. Is anyone elses preorder DLC code not working? I just got mine in an email from NISA but PSN just tells me its incorrect...

EDIT: Nevermind, seems this effects everyone atm.

I don't think DLC is live yet. At least it wasn't last night when my copy came early from NISA. PSN just bitches that the game isn't live yet and to buy it when you try and go to DLC pages.

hamburgers in pockets
Jun 18, 2005

Yeah, that's blood. It'll get better before the show.
Can anyone confirm if the actual box copy of the game inside of the collector's edition box is the same as a standard one? My CE is currently being shipped halfway across the country and I'm considering grabbing a normal copy and playing it in the meantime then returning the game and case from the CE if it's the same thing because I need this poo poo yesterday. :shepicide:

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


hamburgers in pockets posted:

Can anyone confirm if the actual box copy of the game inside of the collector's edition box is the same as a standard one? My CE is currently being shipped halfway across the country and I'm considering grabbing a normal copy and playing it in the meantime then returning the game and case from the CE if it's the same thing because I need this poo poo yesterday. :shepicide:

The cover showing is different. It does have the normal edition on the reverse side though!

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I've only played the demo but Killia is so weirdly stoic, it's bizarre.

Also: This is the first Nippon Ichi game I've ever seen that had illustrated menus. They usually go for a spartan "blank box with sans serif text" on it, boring and utilitarian. Now even the level select screen is busy as hell, it's got starships blowing each other up in the background.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly
The anime space wars level select is probably the thing I like best about the game so far. Hulk Hogan demon guy is a close second.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I never messed with the item world in other Disgaea games but I can't stop loving around with them in this...I'm going down a dark path.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Ibram Gaunt posted:

I never messed with the item world in other Disgaea games but I can't stop loving around with them in this...I'm going down a dark path.

So you are playing the real game and not anime fun time?

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
they gave Teddie too many roles, this game is too many teddies

Lord void darks character design is pretty cool.

that's all I got so far

5er
Jun 1, 2000


mune posted:

It's weird trying to figure out some of the game mechanics. Like I have no idea what making a captive into a citizen does. The game doesn't explain it except for 'this is good.' Thanks game.

Well, if it's anything like how citizens were in previous games- citizens are stat boosters within an item. 'Uncaptured' citizens were only worth half-value and couldn't be transplanted to other items. Captured citizens would realize their full value, and could be moved to other items.

I haven't played the game yet and I don't know if this carries on to 5 though.

Hopefully the type of citizen hasn't changed from one game to the next. There's charts all over the place as to what type of citizen affects what stat.

mune
Sep 23, 2006

5er posted:

Well, if it's anything like how citizens were in previous games- citizens are stat boosters within an item. 'Uncaptured' citizens were only worth half-value and couldn't be transplanted to other items. Captured citizens would realize their full value, and could be moved to other items.

I haven't played the game yet and I don't know if this carries on to 5 though.

Hopefully the type of citizen hasn't changed from one game to the next. There's charts all over the place as to what type of citizen affects what stat.

I think you're talking about specialists, like statisticians, etc. Citizens are a whole separate thing in this game. You can take enemies you capture in battle and interrogate them and/or make them into citizens, or turn them into stat-boosting items. It's just not clear on what 'citizens' do.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


mune posted:

I think you're talking about specialists, like statisticians, etc. Citizens are a whole separate thing in this game. You can take enemies you capture in battle and interrogate them and/or make them into citizens, or turn them into stat-boosting items. It's just not clear on what 'citizens' do.

Specialists has been translated as Citizens in previous games. Why they didn't use a keyword that hasn't been used before is beyond me but it adds to Disgaea games always being confusing as hell and discovering yet another way to gain power 100 hours in.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I don't know the exact mechanism, but you can use captured monsters to power up your Squads and add new effects, you may need to draft your citizens to your squads somehow???

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Super weird that I know who voiced Void Dark.

Also hoping Killia's english VA grows on me, only a few levels in and he's just so bored sounding. Seraphina has a pretty decent VA though.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Killa's performance killed it for me and I switched to the JP audio after a while. It's weird too cuz he's not a bad VA by any stretch of the imagination so I have no clue if the voice direction for him was just awful or what.

mune
Sep 23, 2006

projecthalaxy posted:

I don't know the exact mechanism, but you can use captured monsters to power up your Squads and add new effects, you may need to draft your citizens to your squads somehow???

So when you fully interrogate your captured monsters, they give an extra bonus when they're assigned to your squads.

I don't even know where monsters go when they become citizens.

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Killa's performance killed it for me and I switched to the JP audio after a while. It's weird too cuz he's not a bad VA by any stretch of the imagination so I have no clue if the voice direction for him was just awful or what.

I like his whole "I'm bored, gonna eat ramen instead." schtick personally.

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke

projecthalaxy posted:

I don't know the exact mechanism, but you can use captured monsters to power up your Squads and add new effects, you may need to draft your citizens to your squads somehow???

you can go to the squad manager and press box to use captured monsters to power up squads
e: nm youre talking about innocents and whatnot. i dont know either

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Killa's performance killed it for me and I switched to the JP audio after a while. It's weird too cuz he's not a bad VA by any stretch of the imagination so I have no clue if the voice direction for him was just awful or what.

i love seraphina and magnus but killia is just way too :geno: for this game. ill take a valvatorez or the guy from d1 and dd2 any day

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I had no idea this game even came out today, thought it wasn't till the end of the month for some reason. Well, there goes my free time, goodbye free time, byyyyyye.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I love/hate this vicious item world cycle where I dive into an item only to find something more powerful inside as a chest reward.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Ibram Gaunt posted:

I love/hate this vicious item world cycle where I dive into an item only to find something more powerful inside as a chest reward.

Fun fact: it only ends when you lay cold in the ground!

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Nooooo this came out today? I was saving MGS5 for October, man the choices.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Really breaking my balls here with these prices, Makoto.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Ibram Gaunt posted:

Really breaking my balls here with these prices, Makoto.


Is that Diver-20 with the Gency logo some sort of option to skip 20 floors of an item world?

I really want to play this video game.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

projecthalaxy posted:

Is that Diver-20 with the Gency logo some sort of option to skip 20 floors of an item world?

I really want to play this video game.

Yes. So far I've found 5 and 20 versions of it. Probably more out there.

Pathos
Sep 8, 2000

Haven't played a Disgaea game since #1 on PS2. Really enjoying this so far. I can only really handle it in small-ish bursts, but it's pretty fun so far. And the humor is less embarrassing than I had expected which is a plus.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
How does setting a character's sub class work? Does it do anything worthwhile? Does it affect anything negatively? Is it for Named characters or Generics or both?

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I have learned a very valuable lesson. Do not push your luck robbing the item world bank. RIP like 2 hours of item world progress.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

BabyRyoga posted:

How does setting a character's sub class work? Does it do anything worthwhile? Does it affect anything negatively? Is it for Named characters or Generics or both?
It's mainly there as a way for named characters to unlock generic class Evilities to buy at the Skill Shop, but I think generics can use it too. It also counts for unlocking higher class tiers at the Recruiter and fulfilling quest conditions. No drawbacks.

FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Oct 6, 2015

NyaoMyao
Mar 29, 2010

Super High School Level BFFs
I just bought the season pass because I have poor impulse control but is there a schedule for when the DLC comes out, or is it all actually on the disk? Because I'm trying to fight Laharl and Etna right now (They're level 7).

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
The first set was available at launch for the Japanese version too. After that they did another set on the last Thursday of every month. I personally have no idea what their plans for the international version are, though. It might be similar, or it might be a lot faster.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


You can use the Innocent Shop to move unsubdued innocents around now, instead of just subdued ones. Neat.

NyaoMyao
Mar 29, 2010

Super High School Level BFFs

FractalSandwich posted:

The first set was available at launch for the Japanese version too. After that they did another set on the last Thursday of every month. I personally have no idea what their plans for the international version are, though. It might be similar, or it might be a lot faster.

Day 1 seems pretty fast.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Is there a final floor for items or is it just until you peace out at a town or use a mr. gency? I got to floor 46 before I had to peace out. Netherworld invaders are annoying.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Ibram Gaunt posted:

Is there a final floor for items or is it just until you peace out at a town or use a mr. gency? I got to floor 46 before I had to peace out. Netherworld invaders are annoying.

It's usually 30/60/100 for normal/rare/legend items, though they may have changed that with all the other Item World overhauls.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

that base theme :mrwhite:

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Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Cake Attack posted:

that base theme :mrwhite:

Why is there no instrumental version!!!!!

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