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Main Paineframe posted:I wouldn't say it's specifically the undermining of democracy so much as general Western meddling in Middle Eastern affairs. West bad, brutal traditionalism good, got it.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Israel springing up as a colonial state in the middle of the region didn't help matters either, seeing as how it gave all the militarists every excuse they needed to seize commanding control over the state and suppress liberal and leftist dissent. It's doubtful that the Egyptian military could have become so powerful for instance without the existential threat of Israeli expansionism. Lebanon also had very strong democratic movements, and who knows what could have happened there without Palestinian refugees inevitably drawing them into A/I, on top of all the Cold War divisions going on. "Liberalism might have succeeded in the ME if Israel hadn't popped up and given pre-existing despots the contrived excuse of there being unwelcome Jews in their backyard to refer to in suppressing and brutalising their respective citizenries." Makes perfect sense.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This but unironically. I wasn't being ironic either. Nearly the whole Arabian peninsula would be far better off as a province of Greater Kurdistan.
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Spacman posted:Sure, The Kingdom of Saud sucks, but it really is the least lovely of a pile of lovely options here. A country that decapitates then crucifies a dude vs indescriminate mass executions into a ditch. quote:Realise you are complicit in this them make your choice...
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