Panzeh posted:

Well let me know if you come up with a process that lets the developer understand the best strats before the game even comes out so that that's even possible.

Panzeh posted:

That's also a pretty insane task right there.

Wiz posted:

TBF I would put the chance of sacrifices to Jupiter resulting in good AI significantly higher than 'get a bunch of data and just add some ~machine learning~'.

The Sharmat posted:

Then it'll just be Commies instead.

Alchenar posted:

Hell, this isn't an impossible dream given that Disney are ramping up the merchandising on the Star Wars IP from all directions.

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Terra Incognita

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Paradox is proud to present its groundbreaking new party cardgame "Hitler Against Humanity", a game in which players attempt to escape from receiving the dreaded gold Juden card by telling only Hitler approved jokes! The other players reward the winning jokes and gas the losers!

Wiz posted:

Day 1 DLC

The Sharmat posted:

lol if you don't think there's going to be a dozen Legend of the Galactic Heroes custom portrait packs on day 1

Patter Song posted:

So I've been out of the Paradox loop for a while, coming back in to see what's new and you guys are still arguing over stupid pseudo-Latin pluralizations for bonus and malus?

...

I feel home, guys. It's like I was never gone.

Lord Tywin posted:

Some more HOI IV http://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive/v/29053519 , this time the dude Johan is playing against pumps out 20 completely untrained infantry divisions to trigger the anschluss in 1938 and Johan is just 200 days away from having fully motorized divisions.

Ghost of Mussolini posted:

I can't remember which iteration of HoI2 (and HoI2-offshoots) it was, but the ideal fleet was a massive ball of CL and CA + some CVL to increase detection. They would chew their way through everything (except the even more OP naval configuration, a stack of pure NAV bombers).

Groogy posted:

"Friend"

PleasingFungus posted:

StashAugustine posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_-HgRfGBY

Westminster System posted:

Darkest Hour is a great contender on the mod front alone, well that and the perfection of the HoI2 Formula.

Lawman 0 posted:

How do you deal with fighting china in vicky2 if they partially westernize?

V for Vegas posted:

All warfare in all Paradox games is just about concentration of force.

COOL CORN posted:

Wow what a novel opinion

Psychotic Weasel posted:

I guess that makes more sense than them being wrought iron fence posts. Wasn't sure why they were opposed to periods.

What do the simoleon signs at the top symbolize?

Groogy posted:

You really don't know me? I would torch Rome and laugh manically and profess my eternal devotion to Cyrus and Ahura Mazda.


Good idea, should be doable. If I remember it after vacation I'll bring it up

TL: Remind me in 3 weeks because I will need it

Groogy posted:

Yeah, that was the "always latest beta" thing right?

ThaumPenguin posted:

HPM has gotten updated several times since the beta patch came out though

Also the articles on that page are really good.

quote:

Wrong Focus

I mean the economy has a "wrong focus". Historically the main drive of industrialization (goods wise, not socioeconomic or poo poo like that) was heavy industry. Coal, iron, steel, metals and foundries - that made the industrial revolution and gave small countries such as Belgium an advantage. Goods in Victoria 2 are also an abstraction. Instead of having a good for gold, one for silver and one for diamonds there's a single good - precious metal - that represents all these things (as evidenced in the "Diamonds in $PROVINCE$" events). Iron too represents more than just iron, it covers other metals that were important int he industrial revolution, such as copper. I debated with the idea of renaming a few goods to represent this better but I digress.

The factors that drove these strategic goods to be so prominent during the industrial revolution are largely missing from the game. Railroads don't require any maintenance. The civil construction sector doesn't exist. Furniture is all made of wood and utensils, tools and other stuff that was commonly used and made of processed iron or steel are missing. Pickaxes, hoes, tractors and tractor parts, wrought iron for gates, balconies, windows (and the glass it use), they are missing from the game. So to represent these goods, the maintenance of buildings and the use of cheap steel and rising use of metals in everyday life these goods were introduced to pops. Poor pops try to buy small quantities of cement and steel for housing and goods (luxury needs, usually) though for everyday housing needs they just buy lumber. Farmers and Labourers will try to buy machine parts for their tractors and steam engines, pops try to buy glass for their windows and glassware.

Uses of Steel

Demand in Victoria 2 is drove through consumer goods. What poor pops consume is usually a profitable industry. While that's overall true, the game doesn't represent the growing needs for metals and other goods and consequentially heavy industry takes a backseat to industrialization. This will still change as I want to redo factories maintenance, construction goods and employee numbers but right now steel and coal are already one of the main drivers of industrialization in HPM. To do this stuff I also took a look at Victoria Revolutions needs and goods (coal, for example, increased with pop strata in Ricky while in V2 it stays largely the same).

Right now, I hope this holds true:

At that time, a country’s power was measured by its coal and steel production, so the economic and political power of the steelmakers was considerable. They produced girders for large factories and grand stores and opulent buildings such as those on the Boulevard Haussmann in Paris. Their steels were essential for the manufacture not only of cannons, ships, rails and locomotives but also of all the equipment that was transported throughout the colonial empire.

Steel was in such demand that the producers had control over how much and to whom they sold.

idhrendur posted:

I'm pretty sure it's possible, but the AI seems strangely unwilling to do so.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

We can define Vicky 3 as the perfect game. Perfection is "that than which nothing greater can be conceived" A game that only exists in our mind would not be as great as one that exists in reality, contradicting our definition of Vicky 3. Thus, Vicky 3 must exist. From this, we can deduce that Paradox has made Vicky 3, but are holding it back because it would destroy the cash cow that is DLC for their other, non-perfect games. If not proof of hatred, it is at least clear evidence that they love money more than humanity.