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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I'm still processing the hospital bombing but every time I can formulate a thought that seems to strike close to my feelings on the matter, a new bit of news comes out that makes me even more depressed an angry.

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Sir Tonk posted:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_NEW_TERM


Cool, I guess next year will look alot like the last few years at SCOTUS.

Nothing is ever resolved, not even for a single second

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Nicholas Cage writes on the constitution

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Is there a PredictIt for first Tea Partier to be taken out by Chinese assassins?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Boon posted:

Trump is really starting to make a lot of sense

At least Trump wouldn't literally start a global war on day 1, or if he would he isn't bragging about it.

Fiorina's the true nightmare scenario that we all thought Trump would be. She's tasted the fact that she can just say literally whatever she wants so long as it fits the narrative and she's never going back.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Somebody should tell the GOP that a default would result in a de facto student loan forgiveness so they refuse to let it happen

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Hollismason posted:

So again the only way to really get your student loans forgiven is death or total financial collapse. Tell me more about student loan debt in the world of the apocalypse? How would that work and why would it work?

I'm sure the student loan companies will weather a financial apocalypse just fine and not become instantly insolvent due to corrupt managing and almost none of their actual assets being tied up in things that don't actually exist even in a loose accounting sense.

Alternate answer: You lose your job and never find work again so you get deferrals until you die

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



A Terrible Person posted:

I'd far rather our hired bullet-absorbers do their job and take fire and die gracefully than for us to loving BOMB A GODDAMN INTERNATIONALLY INDEPENDENT CHARITY HOSPITAL in an effort to fix their fuckup.

I feel like there's a more proactive solution here that doesn't have them there in the first place to create the threat they are now trying to fight

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



If the US military was going to go for a war crime they wouldn't pick a hospital.

Intentional my rear end, give them SOME credit

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



PleasingFungus posted:

I'm already seeing reports that many provisions of the TPP have changed from the draft versions; for example:


It doesn't seem impossible to me that those changes came about as a result of public pressure giving our negotiators more leverage; "Look, our people will never accept this, see? You've got to give me more..."

"Okay fine we'll enforce stuff that's actually illegal in all countries involved" doesn't sound like something that should be counted as a big step forward in negotiations. Am I reading that wrong?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



DemeaninDemon posted:

We're one species. Dinosaurs were many.

Well there were more, but we killed them all. Dinosaurs just didn't have the bloodlust required to survive



THANKS OBAMA

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Interestingly enough, the Sandy Hook truther I know is also anti-vacc and is now vehemently anti-Ben Carson

It's really surprising to me that this is an issue that any GOP candidate is wading into because it seems like it's a losing gamble no matter what

Radbot posted:

The US Military is Too Incompetent to Fail.

Too Dumb to Jail

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



That new thread title :master:

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



RuanGacho posted:

Why is the data only up through 2010?

I can't remember Anymore but I feel like there were less mass shootings 5 years past.

Pretty sure Congress' response to all the gun violence was to block the CDC from studying it anymore

Basically, if something comes out that the NRA complains about then Congress slashes the CDC's budget by however much it spent researching it

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Eh, he could've flubbed that a lot worse, but still

I'd also like to formally eat crow for insisting that the GOP would just hand the nomination to Jeb many months ago. It's obvious they wanted to, but good lord that man

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I'm sure they'll announce this at a press conference and quietly disband, their purpose achieved, right?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



USPOL October: IF YOU CAN STARVE A GRANNY, YOU CAN STARVE A GOVERNMENT

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Why does the press hate Hillary so much?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Because Hillary felt that the press aided and abetted witch hunts against her and Bill Clinton in the early 90's, both during his primary run and presidency, and as a result has generally been very dismissive of the press in general. She also attacks the press's ethics and credentials. The media in general hates being accused of bias or being unprofessional. She gives very little access to her campaign staff and advisors; compare her to John McCain who had the press ride with him in his bus, sat in the press section of the plane to chat off the record, and always provided donuts and meals to reporters for free.

The animosity Hillary shows to the press is compounded with the professional incentive to "bring down" a politician ala Watergate, so journalists really gun for Hillary because she is secretive, high-profile, and mean to them. She is then even more secretive and mean to them and the process loops infinitely.

"I hope the press chokes on its own bile, and it replaced with a less terrible institution" is a bumper sticker I'd buy

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Hollismason posted:



Paul Ryan. Speaker of the House.

"I promise to abolish leg day forever. No longer will you have to sputter out some lame excuse when asked what you squat. No longer will you be chided for curling in the squat rack. Squats will be illegal, running is all the lower body work you could ever need"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I'd just like to interject to remind everybody that the mentally ill in America are ENORMOUSLY more likely to be the victim of violence than the cause of it, and the scapegoating of them doesn't make sense when it comes to guns. "Oh well they're just crazy" is a terrible thing to say. If you are gunned down, odds are it was somebody in their right mind who had motivations that aren't so easy to pigeonhole

I don't want any legislation meant to help the mentally ill to include a single word about guns because I'd like to see it pass before 2030

We aren't up against guns here as much as we're up against the fact that property supersedes human life in our culture. Okay back to skipping page after page until I see political news

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Hodgepodge posted:

Unironically this. Just to rub it in the face of Republicans.

e: man it sure sucks to have two debate the merit of these strong candidates fighting over our votes on record and policy oh well that trump sure is funny eh?

Democrats have 2 winners, Republicans have zero. Averages out to one per party, balance achieved!

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




public sector workers don't make nearly as much as their private sector (contractor) counterparts. like not even close. an ex of mine's uncle was a GS15, naval academy grad, worked at one of the alphabet natsec agencies in DC.

he 'retired' and immediately went to work for a contractor in NoVA making like $500,000.
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In some fields, government jobs not only pay better but offer way better benefits and hours. You're less likely to get a 6 figure government job, but more likely to get a $15-25 an hour one with benefits that FAR outstrip what you'll get in the private sector. Government jobs are sought after because of the high floor more than anything else. From what I understand, unless you know Assembly or dirt on someone in power, the 6 figure jobs are pretty much nonexistent

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



this_is_hard posted:

In some fields, government jobs not only pay better but offer way better benefits and hours. You're less likely to get a 6 figure government job, but more likely to get a $15-25 an hour one with benefits that FAR outstrip what you'll get in the private sector. Government jobs are sought after because of the high floor more than anything else. From what I understand, unless you know Assembly or dirt on someone in power, the 6 figure jobs are pretty much nonexistent

the $15-25 an hour jobs all require a college degree, require trolling USAJOBS.gov for months (itself a form of hell), and generally pay a fair wage for extremely competitive jobs. and to top it off, unless you're ex-military you have a slim-to-none chance at even getting an interview nowadays.

it is wholesale myth that public sector workers in the DC are overpaid w/r/t private sector jobs. there's just as many fields where the government "overpays" as there are where the government "underpays," IT/comp sci, and security/defense related to name a few.
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My experience is as a licensed pharm tech from before I went into IT, and for techs there is a very real demand at places like the VA and the callcenters, and a college degree is absolutely not required to be a tech. You're probably right in regards to other industries though, I imagine if I tried to get a cushy government spot (unless working for a state school counts?) I'd have a lot more trouble going for an IT position.

Sad thing is that gov jobs used to be considered the boring, secure but lower paying counterpart to private sector jobs across the board. Now they're a hot commodity because private sector is so dismal if you don't have specific skills that can't be farmed out (yet)

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



It feels like so long ago now that I was worried about Huckabee most of all because he was clearly a loving looney but kept it under wraps and was charismatic

I wonder what happened

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I would vote for Satan himself before I voted Republican or stayed home this cycle. No way do we need a more conservative SCOTUS, and that's all the reason I need

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



What's a moderate Republican? I thought those were extinct

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



fade5 posted:

Jim Webb.:v:

It's a shame because I kind of took a liking to Webb during the debate, if not as a potential presidential candidate then as a person. It's too bad his incessant hammering away about time is what people will remember.

Okay, it's the 2nd biggest thing people will remember

Electric Bugaloo posted:

I don't think Trump needs all that. Think about what sort of a debater he is

Why, a master debater of course

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



BlueBlazer posted:

Webb will have a place in the next Democratic administration. I got the feeling he falls into the operate class. Perhaps good at getting "things" done, not so great from an ideological stand point. I

That's good to hear. Sounds like he's a legit war hero and very proud of it so it's probably best he doesn't end up in the position to get swiftboated.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I've seen two things becoming more evident in my facebook feed over the past few weeks:

1) Cruz may have the southern evangelicals locked up, but all the rest love Carson (edit - or at least midwestern ones do. It turns out that everybody is content to just make up quotes and attribute them to him instead of using poo poo he's actually said because lol)

2) Let's not forget about the closet/not-so-closet racists out there who are absolutely feeling emboldened that Obama is leaving, and helping them along on that viewpoint is the RWM machine portraying him as an unpopular candidate who only made things worse despite taking us out of the Bush Years and being about 100x more popular right now than Bush was at year 7.

I'm pretty sure they're accounted for in polling as "just going to pull the lever for straight ticket R no matter what" but still

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I wonder if Hillary is anticipating impeachment talk and is going to pick an even less appealing to the GOP VP

Clinton/Warren 2016

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



A Winner is Jew posted:

As it's been discussed before probably a Cllinton/Castro ticket.

Impeach Hillary and a Mexican becomes president.

Do the Republicans hate Castro? He is from Texas after all

If he goes far left him as VP could assuage some of the Bernie voters who would otherwise not turn out if Hillary gets the nomination because they're big dumb babies who want to see Republicans hold all branches

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



greatn posted:

This is part of the reason Bernie supporters get so mad on the internet, guys like you making dumb rear end hominem attacks for literally no reason. The vast majority of Bernie supporters will happily vote for Hillary in the general if she wins.

Anybody who refuses to vote this cycle is a big dumb baby but only Bernie supporters have been threatening this hth

Signed,
A Bernie supporter

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Oh my god dubbya WAS the smarter and more charismatic one

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



At this point I'm convinced that his plan once elected is to go full socialist, only with full congressional support after making the lemmings fear him more than the Kochs

His only real consistent game plan so far seems to be to destroy all Republicans

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



It's important to stress the "barking from 5-10 feet away" thing. This is a combat trained dog, and if this dog (or any dog, really) had intended to harm it would've done what happened to the poster who posted earlier about a dog attacking them while on a bike. No warning, just an attack from the side aimed at taking you down.

A dog's barking is literally a warning shot.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



My state is just so great sometimes

quote:

1. After conducting a traffic stop at which Indiana State Police Trooper Brian Hamilton presented Ms. Bogan with a warning ticket, Trooper Hamilton prolonged the stop by asking Ms. Bogan, among other things, if she had accepted Jesus Christ as her savior and then presented her with a pamphlet from the First Baptist Church in Cambridge that informed the reader that he or she is a sinner; listed God’s Plan of Salvation, noting that the person must realize that “the Lord Jesus Christ paid the penalty for your sins; and, advertised a radio broadcast entitled “Policing for Jesus Ministries.”

The pamphlet can be viewed here

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



TheQat posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/18/ben-carson-saudi-arabia-osama-bin-laden-whereabouts?channel=us

Here's the guardian's article on that. I haven't seen it but it sounds like he looked pretty bad

This needs more attention, Carson's responses are just so terrible and all amount basically to, "well I believe this is the case so it is"

fake edit -

quote:

Stephanopoulos said: “But sir, I wasn’t asking about invading Iraq. I was asking about invading Afghanistan, which had been harboring Osama bin Laden.”

“Well I was primarily talking about Iraq,” said Carson. “I wasn’t particularly interested in going into Afghanistan, but I do think that we should have taken aggressive action.”

"Get hosed, we're talking about Iraq now because I just realized I'm talking myself into a hole"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Great now they're going to push The Biden Narrative even harder now that both front runners are ruffling media feathers
(sanctioned or not)

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




I refuse to believe it

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