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This probably isn't the right place for this post anymore but once upon a time there was some discussion of a theoretical app that would assist GOTV [Get Out The Vote] canvassers. Does anyone remember what the requested features of this app were? If so, what's the most essential feature? Huzanko fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Boywhiz88 posted:I don't remember a particular GOTV public app but both campaigns in 2012 had apps with similar goals. The DNC's worked a LOT better than the RNCs. I think it was called ORCA? I'll look it up Thanks! The discussion of this potential app was based around the app that the DNC GOTV folks were using. The issue is that, unfortunately, the problem with a lot of state and local DNC organizations won't or don't work together or share resources and information. So, the idea is that something open source could be made, thrown up on VPS hosting, and made available to DNC groups. However, I don't remember what kind of information was supposed to be made available through this app or how to get it - voter rolls I think... Fried Chicken was part of the original discussion. I should PM him...
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Oct 4, 2015 17:20
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It's really stupid and dumb that anyone is sticking up for the military here. Excusing or justifying the bombing of a hospital is pretty dumb; it's a stupid discussion to have, too, since we shouldn't even be blowing up buildings and wedding parties and everything else in the middle-east just to catch a minority of people who, justly or unjustly, bear us ill will. What if it wasn't a hospital? What if it was a storefront or an apartment building? It being a hospital just makes the bombing more egregious; the whole situation is wrong and hosed even if you don't look into the details. This is why it's easy for the right to win arguments, or look like they did - they get us stupid lefties arguing over the finer points of horror, like we're arguing over how hot the flames in hell are. Then again people still defend the ability of the average person to purchase a paramilitary arsenal, and how all these deaths are acceptable losses because real Americans can still buy their toys, so I'm not surprised.
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Oct 6, 2015 21:35
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Fojar38 posted:Because contrary to goon opinion they aren't a bunch of literal murderdrones powered by hatred and racism. quote:------------->
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Oct 6, 2015 21:36
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Trabisnikof posted:Or we're arguing that we are within the framework of war, which our politicians put our military into. Its not very effective to yell at the military for the decisions of politicians. Some might say that every thinking person has a moral obligation to avoid doing horrible things to their fellow man, even if those horrible things are painted red, white, and blue. Also, we have an all-volunteer force. You know exactly what you're signing up for, with reasonable approximation. Huzanko fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 21:38
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Fojar38 posted:Oh sorry, Forums Poster Noam Chomsky pointed out my red text, so I retract my statement. The US military are literal murderdrones powered by hatred and racism after all. I don't think anyone is saying that; I'm certainly not. However, not all of them are good people either. Many of them are very racist and very hateful people. My argument is someone in the apparatus is responsible and I see people falling all over themselves to excuse the whole apparatus.
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Oct 6, 2015 21:40
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Ernie Muppari posted:but my team! I just don't like to paint people with a broad brush, not if I can help it. I can say that military folks I have grown up with and personally know - anecdotal though this may be - are racist and enjoy the fact that we "kill them over there so they don't kill us over here." They're not all saints and they're not all sinners but they are all responsible for what they do as individuals, orders or no, uniform or no.
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Oct 6, 2015 21:43
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Artificer posted:People signing up for careers due to a highly unrealistic view of what they think they will be doing in said career, only to realize that they were wrong too late to back out due to financial responsibilities, fear of unemployment or shame, or some other reasons, is hardly rare. I'm aware of that but I think it speaks to how little human life is valued in our world. People who do evil could always say "No" but they choose not to because they'd rather not face the consequences of saying "No, I won't kill" or "No, I won't torture." Everyone has families, everyone needs money, and to most a random human life, from a different culture and of a different race, is worth way less than all of that. I just don't feel that people should be let off the hook and be able to say "Well, I had to! I was just following orders!" I expect people to take responsibility for whatever choices they make. They might let themselves off the hook but we shouldn't play pretend with them. Huzanko fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Oct 7, 2015 00:45
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Spaceman Future! posted:same as everything that gets pulled out of, completely hosed but with nothing left to make us feel like we have any responsibility to call the next day. 
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Oct 7, 2015 04:11
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Holden: You're in the house, walking along in the aisles, when all of a sudden you look up...
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Oct 13, 2015 03:52
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   I wonder why anyone would ever refer to her by her first name...
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Oct 14, 2015 18:32
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evilweasel posted:If you want to make the NSA stuff matter to people then you'll need to do something like say, sure, you may not think the NSA cares about your stuff - but what about China or Russia reading your email or your businesses' email? This attack isn't outside their capabilities so the NSA failing to disclose it does put you at risk. Even if you don't think the NSA as an organization desires to blackmail individual citizens, I would think you'd be concerned with the fact that it's relatively easy for individuals who work for the NSA, who have access to these sophisticated monitoring systems and/or harvested data, to blackmail you. Hell, take the NSA off the table. Google itself logs everything you search for on Google and everything you watch on YouTube and ties it all to your Google account. It's relatively easy for an employee to access that data and quickly know almost everything about you. Combine that kind of data with Facebook and other social media data - and, hell, ISP traffic logs - and you can start data modeling individuals, find commonalities, build profiles, and so on. That's what Big Data is all about and the allure of it to corporations and governments. Even if you don't care about being blackmailed, the reality is governments and corporations will know more and more about us than we know about ourselves or each-other. That provides them with a lot of leverage. But, this is SA, so I am sure it'll be hand-waived.
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Oct 15, 2015 19:00
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zoux posted:China is not a liberal democracy with a tradition of privacy protections. Does privacy matter or mean anything if citizens willingly submit their information to privately owned systems?
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Oct 15, 2015 19:01
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Trabisnikof posted:I think you'll find that the additional power over us they gain by this information is still quite small compared to the biopower they exert over us. It's not really about power; it's about leveraging information to contrive better systems of control. You also have to think of this in the context of the next 10 to 20 years, and after, with whole generations growing up not having a conceptual framework in which privacy exists thanks to social media.
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Oct 15, 2015 19:05
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Uroboros posted:My shameful porn viewing history will hopefully not be a killer. If you're just some schmuck it won't matter. You're a party member in good standing. However, the kind of leverage I'm talking about makes it very easy to put down any kind of dissent, even before the dissent is visible. But, I get it, nobody cares.
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Oct 15, 2015 19:06
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zoux posted:I don't care what other people do with respect to their own non-coerced private information. So, you'd be OK with an app that could pull everything you've ever done online, ever, in a nice easy-to-read format? That's not impossible and it's what a lot of organizations are working toward.
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Oct 15, 2015 19:08
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