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Powercrazy posted:Whoa. A little touchy about guns aren't we tezzor? There's really no way to overstate the idiocy of gun fanboys but this is a pretty good example
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frankly, its disgusting that we cant get bipartisan support for a serrated knife ban e: i mean just look at the things: 
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Oct 5, 2015 23:24
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I think that's for sawing with. If you tried to cut someone with it you'd probably drop it.
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Oct 5, 2015 23:31
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This...is the greatest knife ever made. The Ka-Bar Marine Corps Fighting Knife. Seven inches, more than enough to kill anything that moves.
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Oct 6, 2015 00:13
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Tezzor posted:Because knives are less inherently dangerous than firearms, have a legitimate reason for widespread ownership, and do not actively make society worse. I hope this has clarified this obvious matter to the standards of a sniveling toy-obsessed cretin, OP http://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-million-killed-by-machete-club-and-gun-rwanda-remembers-its-genocide-20-years-later/ Shut the gently caress up, Tezzor.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:11
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misdirectomy posted:You can choke someone to death, we should probably chop everyone's hands off. But what about the coming spree of fatal stump clubbing?
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Oct 6, 2015 02:18
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Armyman25 posted:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-million-killed-by-machete-club-and-gun-rwanda-remembers-its-genocide-20-years-later/ Which point do you think this disputes?
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Oct 6, 2015 02:19
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Here's a quick way to tell that gun fanboys are not serious when they argue that knives or pointy sticks are just as good at killing people as guns: their ownership and advocacy of guns and the reasons they forward as to why. If knives were really as good at killing people as guns then it wouldn't matter if guns were banned because they would be equally capable of defending themselves and succeeding in their half baked revolutions with knives, which are simpler to use and maintain and substantially less expensive
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Oct 6, 2015 02:22
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This thread is stupid, as are gun fanboys.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:25
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Armyman, I assume you were in the Army, man. Question: Why do you think the Army gave you all a bunch of guns if your bare hands are just as good at killing humans as those guns? Seems like that was a huge waste of time and money
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Oct 6, 2015 02:26
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Tezzor posted:Armyman, I assume you were in the Army, man. Question: Why do you think the Army gave you all a bunch of guns if your bare hands are just as good at killing humans as those guns? Seems like that was a huge waste of time and money I dunno, ask the Ghurkas. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10354458/Gurkha-fought-off-Afghan-insurgent-in-hand-to-hand-combat.html
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Oct 6, 2015 02:39
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It would seem like a lovely practice to not give Gurkhas guns. My great grandfather was a Gurkha and even though he was adept at hand to hand combat when he fought in Gallipolli even the notoriously lovely British army decided that it would probably be better to do that with a gun.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:46
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Tezzor posted:Here's a quick way to tell that gun fanboys are not serious when they argue that knives or pointy sticks are just as good at killing people as guns: their ownership and advocacy of guns and the reasons they forward as to why. If knives were really as good at killing people as guns then it wouldn't matter if guns were banned because they would be equally capable of defending themselves and succeeding in their half baked revolutions with knives, which are simpler to use and maintain and substantially less expensive It's almost like people will kill you with whatever they have at hand. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Australia.html Should we ban Louisville Sluggers? How about crow bars?
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Oct 6, 2015 02:51
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Armyman25 posted:It's almost like people will kill you with whatever they have at hand. I understand you were in the army and are also a gun fanboy so let me explain this in several steps. Guns are better at killing humans than other ways. That does not mean that guns are the only way to kill humans. It also does not mean that there have been no humans killed in other ways. The premise of your argument -that all killings with guns are premeditated affairs committed by people who are ready, willing and able to kill the same number of people by any other means - is unsupported by facts or logic. Tezzor fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 03:00
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If only the Republicans would stop blocking Smart Sheath technology then things like this wouldn't happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hfLZozBVpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5C8I9BJjSg
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Oct 6, 2015 09:11
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Powercrazy posted:Different tool for the job. When I'm hunting for example, I'll carry my field knife with me. It's nothing fancy, but it is incredibly useful. Just because some people misuse tools doesn't mean the tools shouldn't exist. Oh, so you mean guns and knives don't have exactly the same level of lethality?
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Oct 6, 2015 14:56
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Tezzor posted:I understand you were in the army and are also a gun fanboy so let me explain this in several steps. Guns are better at killing humans than other ways. That does not mean that guns are the only way to kill humans. It also does not mean that there have been no humans killed in other ways. The premise of your argument -that all killings with guns are premeditated affairs committed by people who are ready, willing and able to kill the same number of people by any other means - is unsupported by facts or logic. Aww look at this guy suddenly pretending he knows how to make reasoned points. Armyman25 posted:It's almost like people will kill you with whatever they have at hand. Anecdote is not data.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:22
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Radbot posted:Oh, so you mean guns and knives don't have exactly the same level of lethality? It is well known that a death via gun is not an honorable death, and those that suffer that fate are condemned to languish forever in the abyss. Those killed by knives or baseball bats on the other hand are invited to ride to Valhalla, all shiny and chrome.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:31
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im the beltway knife thrower, ama
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Oct 6, 2015 16:31
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I'm just very confused, because I want to believe gun advocates when they say that weapon of choice has zero bearing on whether someone will kill someone or not. If that's true, why carry guns, considering they're much heavier and more expensive than the equally lethal pocket knife?
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Oct 6, 2015 16:34
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"The right tool for the job." Is probably a difficult phrase for you to understand since I doubt you have ever touched a tool, let alone used one to do any work. But luckily society has people with much more foresight then you and thus we have better tools then we did 10, 100, 1000 and 10,000 years ago, even though for many things, the tools we had last century would still technically work.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:48
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Powercrazy posted:"The right tool for the job." Is probably a difficult phrase for you to understand since I doubt you have ever touched a tool, let alone used one to do any work. But luckily society has people with much more foresight then you and thus we have better tools then we did 10, 100, 1000 and 10,000 years ago, even though for many things, the tools we had last century would still technically work. I thought there was no right tool for the job, since someone that wants to kill someone will use a rock if they can't get access to a knife or a gun? Sorry you're getting butthurt enough to make this personal, just trying to understand.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:50
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Powercrazy posted:"The right tool for the job." Is probably a difficult phrase for you to understand since I doubt you have ever touched a tool, let alone used one to do any work. But luckily society has people with much more foresight then you and thus we have better tools then we did 10, 100, 1000 and 10,000 years ago, even though for many things, the tools we had last century would still technically work. Which jobs are guns the right tools for? Perhaps there could be a system to ensure guns are only used in tituations where they are the best choice, and restrict them from being used other times.
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Nevvy Z posted:Which jobs are guns the right tools for? Perhaps there could be a system to ensure guns are only used in tituations where they are the best choice, and restrict them from being used other times. Why?
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Oct 6, 2015 16:59
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Powercrazy posted:Why? i agree with powercrazy here, 12 vets a day legally using their second amendment rights to self defense against themselves should be celebrated, not mourned. each of these brave Soldiers is doing their part in the final battle against spiraling debt and laying down their lives for the good of their nation
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Oct 6, 2015 17:01
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Powercrazy posted:Why? For the same reason you can't drive cars on sidewalks - the right tool for the right job.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:04
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Gun otaku, when you are playing first-or-third-person shooter and you start out with your bare hands or a melee weapon, and then later in the game you get access to a full-auto machinegun, you of course ignore it because you're 100% as efficient at killing without it right
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Oct 6, 2015 17:05
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Nevvy Z posted:Which jobs are guns the right tools for? Perhaps there could be a system to ensure guns are only used in tituations where they are the best choice, and restrict them from being used other times. You mean, like, a system of rules recognized as regulating the actions of people, which can be enforced by the imposition of penalties? Like Title 18 of the United States Code, sections 921-931? and 26 USC 5801-5872? and Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, sections 478.1-478.171? and 25 CFR 25.1-25.57? And additional ones in each and every state?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i agree with powercrazy here, 12 vets a day legally using their second amendment rights to self defense against themselves should be celebrated, not mourned. each of these brave Soldiers is doing their part in the final battle against spiraling debt and laying down their lives for the good of their nation Btw just ban all forms of self defense, eventually after being sodomized by petty theft and being unable to defend for years, the enraged working class population will start tying and beating thieves by themselves like in Chile.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:22
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wiregrind posted:Why always post suggesting suicide in every thread? more americans heroically exercise their rights to defend themselves with a firearm against themselves than they do against strangers. all this talk about defending against burglars in the home is less important than the real epidemic, being able to defend against the burglar in your head, and we do a disservice by not applauding these brave and noble americans at every opportunity after all, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, and more often than not they are the same person
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Maybe we could look at other ways to combat petty crime than allowing anyone to instantly escalate the situation to death or serious injury. Isn't a knife a pretty lovely weapon for self-defence anyway? It seems like you're much more likely to end up getting stabbed than before there was a knife involved.
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Tezzor posted:I understand you were in the army and are also a gun fanboy so let me explain this in several steps. Guns are better at killing humans than other ways. That does not mean that guns are the only way to kill humans. It also does not mean that there have been no humans killed in other ways. The premise of your argument -that all killings with guns are premeditated affairs committed by people who are ready, willing and able to kill the same number of people by any other means - is unsupported by facts or logic. These "guns" sound pretty useful.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:30
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I don't think anyone was arguing they weren't useful for killing things?
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XMNN posted:Maybe we could look at other ways to combat petty crime than allowing anyone to instantly escalate the situation to death or serious injury. Uh, actually, if you look at the OP you'll see that knives are just as deadly as guns. Why based on the OP China has an epidemic of one (1) mass stabbing a year, where nine (9) coordinated terrorists kill as six (6) sleeping people each with knives. This is perfectly analogous to one (1) of the Zanzibar Ham fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 17:39
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i agree with powercrazy here, 12 vets a day legally using their second amendment rights to self defense against themselves should be celebrated, not mourned. each of these brave Soldiers is doing their part in the final battle against spiraling debt and laying down their lives for the good of their nation Agree. But that is a separate issue from guns or knives.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:more americans heroically exercise their rights to defend themselves with a firearm against themselves than they do against strangers. all this talk about defending against burglars in the home is less important than the real epidemic, being able to defend against the burglar in your head, and we do a disservice by not applauding these brave and noble americans at every opportunity Also this sounds dangerously close to a mental health argument, and as we all know, mental health is 100% unrelated to anything and is only brought up to maintain the status quo.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:42
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XMNN posted:Maybe we could look at other ways to combat petty crime than allowing anyone to instantly escalate the situation to death or serious injury. Knives are indeed the "wrong tool" for the job (of self-defense). They are really bad at self-defense, but are still quite deadly! What a strange world we live in.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:43
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PYF knives that aspire to drink human blood spyderco civilian  loveless-style subhilt fighter  crkt hissatsu  microtech halo 
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Knives aren't that dangerous unless you learn their names. Then they have to obey you no matter what.
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SedanChair posted:PYF knives that aspire to drink human blood I wish they made just like, a small bladed knife with a big handle. My box opener is rubbish, I want a better replacement. Also how do you cut and/or stab anything with the top one? It looks dumb.
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