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It's very Nietzschean will-to-power in a lot of ways, but real Nietzsche, not the stuff twisted up to justify pathetic white dudes calling themselves supermen.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 21:41 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 13:34 |
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Just. Stop.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2016 23:41 |
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Wittgen posted:I like the new attitude. Don't like the new haircut so much. Feels like she's walking away from being Sailor Moon.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2016 05:55 |
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It's activities, and honestly I think you all just have really bad visual literacy. I swear, every third or fourth update there's some wild theory that hinges entirely on not being able to understand how to follow action from panel to panel.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 02:40 |
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The one critique I would level is that having the scissors open a bit in the prior panel would make it flow better. Though I doubt even that would have headed off this nonsense.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 05:22 |
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Have people in this thread just not ever used a pair of scissors? Is that what's going on here?
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 06:25 |
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Who What Now posted:She was being super dramatic about it. And then I remembered what forum I'm posting to, and that, no, that's probably not obvious to a lot of people here.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 21:59 |
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Even if Zoss meant for Allison to transfer the key, it would only be proper in this setting for her to take the throne herself anyways.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2016 18:40 |
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What's annoying about this misreading of panels isn't that sometimes action is a little unclear or confusing - that happens. It's that people keep spinning these giant nonsense theories out of them, and then when its made clear they were wrong, persist in defending the nonsense theories.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2016 02:39 |
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Unless I've vastly misread something, the way the whole thing works is that the demiurges used to be Zoss' comrades in arms, companions, and servants. At least some of them helped Zoss set up his empire in the first place. Think of Alexander the Great and the diadochi, and keep in mind most of the people at the level of the demiurges are functionally immortal. Benson Cunningham posted:I'm waiting for the retcon where Abaddon is like, poo poo those names are really similar, my bad. Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Nov 21, 2016 |
# ¿ Nov 21, 2016 04:00 |
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the future is WOW posted:I don't think ley stones have anything to do with the keys but I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure I saw a question about them on the 'submit' blog where Abbadon said they're just an accessory that acts as an amplifier for the bearer's own powers/natural talents but I can't find it at the moment.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 06:09 |
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Who What Now posted:I'd say she's definitely being a dick, but it's understandable and justified.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2016 05:37 |
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SunAndSpring posted:Yeah but the old comic was pretty silly and heavy on the cheesecake, while new K6BD is more serious. I feel like old Allison was lesbian simply because girl-on-girl titillated the audience.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2016 17:24 |
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Poltergrift posted:I don't know -- I can kind of see this as a defensive layer, like Fun & Peppy Sorority Girl Allison was. Being "cool" and not hating herself seemed like a good defense against the world, so Allison dyed her hair blonde; now the situation calls for a Tough Girl who uses a zweihander and shouts at demons and isn't afraid of anything, so we get Tough Girl Allison. I mean, US Grant was simultaneously the unflappable strategic genius who beat an apparently invincible opponent, and the serial failure with no apparent common sense; it came down to context. Put Allison into a crisis, and you get Royalty. That she crashes and second guesses herself afterwards, and rages at the unfairness of a situation that demands this of her, doesn't change that.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 16:26 |
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Wow this is a stupid rear end argument with bad takes on both sides. The angst over Zaid becoming a character isn't totally out of the blue, there's a long and awful history of interesting, capable female protagonists getting overshadowed by incompetent male sidekicks because writers are bad. So I understand why readers might be a bit meh on Zaid becoming a character. There's an equally long and bad history of female protagonists only getting motivation from love stories and rescuing their man, of having not ambition or drive for themselves. The big "but" here is that Operant's being doing a solid job of keeping Allison central and has pretty clearly described him as a supporting character, so I think its fair to give Operant the benefit of the doubt here. As far as whether he's a compelling character or not, frankly we know jack poo poo about him as a character at this point. He's potentially compelling purely by the spot he occupies in the story. His relationship to Allison and role as MacGuffin make actually dealing with him as his own person potentially interesting. That's about all we've got here. On the flip side, I do have to say that if you're clamoring for him to have a central role in the story, you probably aren't reading the right comic, and there are already plenty of (read: way too loving many) mediocre-white-dude-in-fantasy-land stories out there to check out.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 00:45 |
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Poltergrift posted:I get the vibe -- from that "I wish I were a noodle vendor" line -- that Maya internalized one of Meti's deepest principles, i.e. only idiots become adherents of swordsmanship and aspirants towards Royalty, but didn't understand that it was intentional, so she decided she'd chosen a bad teacher to induct her into a thankless murder job, and that she would've been better off as a noodle vendor like her mother. I suspect the big difference of opinion is that Meti thinks there's no redeeming aspects at all, while Maya sees it as more a "it's a lovely job but somebody's got to do it" deal.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2016 20:09 |
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Roland Jones posted:I dunno, she seems a bit too badass for the "beat to poo poo" part to be regular, at least. Waking up on the ground with people wondering if you're dead (or perhaps just drunk or something), though...
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 07:17 |
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Oh my god I didn't notice before you said it, that's amazing. This really is the best comic.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 07:49 |
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SunAndSpring posted:She's been cutting lately. Pavlov posted:Did maya lose some weight? Could have sworn she was pudgier before. Real answer, its mostly due to art style shift. If you look at her appearance in the lead up to the Juggs fight, she looks the same weight as now, once you account for ditching her cloak etc. She looks pudgier in the first appearance more because Abaddon's style was to make everyone look a bit lumpier (and/or a bit noodly) at the time. Also there seems to have been a slight redesign in her facial features to give her less of a "smiling Bhudda" appearance and make her more hardened by the years. But even then she's not really chubby, just solidly built. So it's not that Maya's character design got slimmed down so much as Abaddon's art style firmed up.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 01:19 |
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Incubus is clearly the best demiurge, even if he ends up not being the one with the most interesting story. Also who wants to bet the elf Xena Warrior Princess goes to a metal concert get-up in that last panel is Allison's first D&D character or something similar?
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 07:22 |
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See, I read it as just tossing out possibilities - "Incubus, God, the Goblin King, a hallucination, who cares? That's not the important part right now."
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 03:15 |
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It's a great line because it totally works in any of these interpretations.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 04:34 |
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White Coke posted:He thinks that Allison is going to give Zaid the key, not Zoss. Mottom might suspect now, and for non-demiurges, White Chain knows but wants Allison to give the Key to Zaid anyways.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 02:56 |
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Roland Jones posted:Well, the only one we've seen in-comic evidence that they're aware; given Jadis never being wrong, her difficulty with communicating, and her desire to die, it seems fairly possible she's also aware and just not saying anything about it. But that doesn't make her likely to actually do anything about it, so for practical purposes I suppose that doesn't matter.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 03:03 |
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sirtommygunn posted:why must you do this to us non-patrons?
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 18:47 |
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At least its a really gorgeous page.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 06:46 |
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I dreamed I went to an exam with no pants on I dunno wtf is wrong with the rest of you.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 00:31 |
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paragon1 posted:More skyscrapers should have impassive visages on the side.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 17:32 |
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Who What Now posted:That doesn't say "skree-gronk" at all, tho???????????? How exactly did you get that onomatopoeia from this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zhJljblPcY
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 15:53 |
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Schwarzwald posted:I'd be strongly surprised if this doesn't end with all Allison's allies forsaking her and being forced to make it on her own for a while. As Vladok, Princess reneged on a deal with Allison and then tried to kill her - and now Princess is basically saying that somehow makes Allison responsible for her angry, violent, blue self. Cio is into Allison, but she also just copped to trying to manipulate and use Allison for her own ends. White Chain has basically promised to betray Allison at an unspecified future date and continually tries to order her around and treats Allison like a not-particularly-intelligent child. Nyave is almost as much a fish out of water as Allison herself - she's also the only one who actually advises Allison instead of using that as an excuse to tell her what to do. Meanwhile, it's not like Allison's plans have been objectively worse than any of theirs. White Chain's decision to take Allison to see Cio was an outright disaster that could have been easily avoided. Cio's admonitions that Allison couldn't handle what she was taking on haven't exactly been on point. Both have proved to have badly flawed assumptions about the goals of powerful people around them, and done a terrible job of predicting the actions and motivations of those powers. If anything, Allison has been most successful when she's actively gone against the advice of Cio and White Chain and pulled her bull in the china shop routine. Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Apr 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Apr 1, 2017 22:19 |
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Schwarzwald posted:After Zaid is rescued, White Chain's business is over. And as much as Cio clings to Allison for protection, she could easily come to the conclusion that Allison exposes her to more risk than she provides protection. Basically, I'm not pushing back against the idea that Allison is being an rear end in a top hat. She definitely is. But it's not because she doesn't realize it. She just doesn't give a gently caress, and in the case of Cio and White Chain, has understandable reasons for not giving a gently caress. In particular, neither of them have treated her with respect or as an equal, and have mostly treated her like an idiot and a tool. As much as Allison might need to learn to treat her companions well, they - especially White Chain - need to learn to take Allison seriously.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 02:34 |
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A bad plan executed immediately and forcefully can be better than a good plan later.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 05:34 |
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paranoid randroid posted:Royalty: Hold my beer and watch this.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2017 03:49 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:She's not going to be happy with ultimate power, but she doesn't actually want ultimate power; ultimate power was thrust on her and she just spent the last few chapters trying and failing to give it away to any taker, what she wants is to survive and rescue Zaid. But here's the thing - that doesn't mean she fails to understand what that entails. The argument that it won't make her happy doesn't hold water if that isn't what she wants. There's a lot of people who desire something other than happiness in the way it's being defined there. Plenty of people chose difficult, challenging, and in many ways unhappy careers because it fills some other need. And most of them know full well what they've done. Allison has picked that path. She might be making a mistake in the sense that she's hurting her chances of success by being a prick. She isn't burning her good will out of ignorance. She's spending it on purpose. Unwisely, perhaps. In a way that makes her a terrible person, sure. But that's a fundamentally different critique than saying she'll regret losing the good will of her companions for its own sake.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2017 22:08 |
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It is a quote from an angel, most of them have the biggest sticks up their asses.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 18:07 |
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Poltergrift posted:Also, question: is Ys-Myra, goddess of the wretched, just a visual metaphor for the sheer threat scale of Allison's headbutt, or is she literally invoking a thirty-foot undead goddess to headbutt these demons into Black Flame matchsticks a la Bayonetta?
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# ¿ May 10, 2017 05:13 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:I figured that Cio binding herself up with her own hair would be someone's *thing*, but I was kind of hoping it wouldn't be anyone here.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2017 14:49 |
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Is it just me, or do Cio's throwing stars look like those paper fortune teller things?
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 04:51 |
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To be honest I half suspect Felicia is the door opener because she's actually an expert assassin and is going to take out one of the devils, who was only invited along because Oscar wanted them taken out and this was a good way to kill two birds with one stone.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2017 04:15 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:Which would be a much more sensible answer to "why is there a human in a devil crew?"
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2017 18:58 |