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given that Gog had firmly established well before that point that she loathed the other demiurges and viewed Jagganoth as everyone else's problem, I see no reason to expect she was really holding out for a "thanks Gog-Agog good job!" from the people she respects least in the Universe and would have leapt to their defense if she'd gotten it, rather than taking the opportunity to twist the knife and let them keep begging for their lives in vain. The failure of the demiurge friendship fusion wasn't that the cranky old lady was too sassy to keep it together, it's that they're all fundamentally incapable of giving a poo poo about other people or working towards a common good. They were willing to accept a stalemate for as long as open conflict would risk more than they stood to gain and were able to band together on a temporary contingent basis when their lives depended on it, but when their mortal enemies' lives depend on it a teensy bit more than their own, well
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I'm a little more bothered by the reveal that it's been literally the same loving people over and over again in every recreation of the universe, including apparently Allison? Not just 7 demiurges etc. etc. but specifically Solomon et al. no wonder everyone who knows about it, which was like half the demiurges, is so totally defeated by the scale of Zoss's bullshit
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Reclaimer posted:She's framing it that way because Allison obviously doesn't know about Worbleplorp the Demiurge, Bearer of the Word Snooglespork from 8 billion spins ago. Everyone up to this point has been very vague about what previous iterations looked like, they only sketched out the broad strokes of Zoss abdication, a bunch of evil usurpers, heir defeats them all somehow and then the end. A perfectly workable way to suggest that the cast may rotate but the upshot remains the same. Gog is the first one save maybe Metatron who recalls what happened with perfect clarity, and she's being pretty explicit here in calling people out by name as previous contenders A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:If she’s actually the oldest and the strongest and could actually be the big bad and all that… why did she give a flying gently caress what Mottom thought about her when it looked like Jagganoth could lose? Because she's seen it before, and he can't?
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Elissimpark posted:I think we might not have touched on it during Jadis-chat, but it's likely she's only omniscient as far as the current spin goes. As far as she's aware, the world ends. Zoss spinning everything back (like a giant pencil in the cassette tape of reality) is from outside the wheel, so she doesn't know that's happening and maybe, due to her circumstances, is unable of becoming aware of it. It's a much more interesting story if one accepts Jadis as genuinely omniscient, not a hyperbolic term for sort of moderately knowledgeable as major characters go; and Jagganoth as genuinely invincible in battle, not a hyperbolic term for he's tough like every videogame boss you defeat by hitting in the glowing weak spot with the macguffin. What's been emphasized in every retelling of the whole Zoss spinning the wheel thing is we're not talking mere thousands of iterations of the same story ending in failure. Beyond measure, beyond all probability, nobody has once succeeded in breaking the cycle. It's surely not for lack of Heirs getting a little coaching in an ultimate martial arts technique from their own cryptic Mr. Miyagi figure, or heroes banding together in the face of certain doom, or any of this extremely standard stuff on the heroic arc Zoss sets up.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:okay but if that is true, how do you see the story playing out because this sounds like Jadis reasoning "you can't change anything so why bother" Something that breaks wildly from A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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Friedrich Nietzsche, obviously
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Thundarr posted:Letting the thought linger, because any literal answer would be less effective at selling her point than whatever Allison's imagination is coming up with. yeah there have been commenters all along doing back of the napkin estimates of all the 'more centuries than grains of sand on a beach' type imagery and the answers are both absurdly huge and and way less impressive when laid out as just a number too big for you to have any frame of reference for Enough that "how many" isn't even a meaningful question anymore A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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what is the Intel of webcomics and why
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Buschmaki posted:A lot of the post Jagganoth sealing arc reminds me a lot of the Post-Akira awakening part of the Akira manga isn't that like 95% of it
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Mr. Lobe posted:No doubt, but she might also have some shells with extra oomph among her ranks Her instantiations have shrugged off bigger hits repeatedly through the comic, including a demiurge PERISH the very first time she appeared. Gogs die when it's funnier for them to die, which is frequently.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:According to her, though, she took this form to survive. Which suggests if she were to forget, she would lose the tools to persist from cycle to cycle, and she'd, well, die. What if I were to tell you I have a way to preserve a few thousand of your cells indefinitely, and the cells would be very healthy and happy inasmuch as it's possible to say that of cells, and all it would take is destroying most of your brain
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I feel like the environment may encourage you to cope with it far faster than you may otherwise, so arguably it's the best place for it I suppose it guarantees the issue will be swiftly resolved one way or another
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lots of stuff naturally catches fire on contact with water if you have exotic enough biochemistry, it just takes a lot of martial arts breathing bullshit to keep the rest of the fish from exploding
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It's been a while since Hrotomos showed up this is all an elaborate setup for why the comic's real main character is gonna spend the rest of the comic carrying a fish around on his shoulder
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FuturePastNow posted:Yeah. I don't disagree with any of that. But there's still one with the key, because there's only one of the key. there used to be just one key, then there were ??? thousands???, then there were eight and shrinking. Who's to say Gog didn't portion hers out evenly, one tiny little splinter of god per worm
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