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I'm purely speculating from tv "knowledge" here, but how would Alisons little shooting gallery stand up to forensic scrutiny? No gun powder residue on the dead professor's hand, a close range/point blank entry wound on her shoulder, blood spatter of her partner indicating he was most certainly not shot from where the professor was standing/sitting... Every investigator in tv history would have called bullshit the second he entered that room.
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Dec 14, 2015 22:07
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She only needed to fool them for a couple of hours before the attack went through. After that it's retirement on the black sea coast.
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mcbexx posted:I'm purely speculating from tv "knowledge" here, but how would Alisons little shooting gallery stand up to forensic scrutiny? No gun powder residue on the dead professor's hand, a close range/point blank entry wound on her shoulder, blood spatter of her partner indicating he was most certainly not shot from where the professor was standing/sitting... ya, that was kind of weird, she could at least have shot her partner from the arab's position instead of shoting her partner at close range from his left making it pretty obvious what happened. Also as someone from Germany I don't get how Carrie couldn't sent her message. There is no reason why she shouldn't have reception in the middle of Berlin, I know it's a TV trope but it still felt out of place and was unnecessary in any case (just have Saul ignore his phone for some time for whatever reason). Besides that I'm used to the normal amount of Homeland-incompetence but there is no reason why you would just evacuate the airport and then ignore all other possible threats => the moment Carrie hinted at a possible terror attack at the train station they should have taken action there to but I guess that way Carrie couldn't have been once again the only person to personally stop a terror attack. It really has gotten stupid at this point and it's pretty much 24 levels of story telling (we even have the moles now too...). spankmeister posted:She only needed to fool them for a couple of hours before the attack went through. After that it's retirement on the black sea coast. Well, in the Homeland-universe the logic is probably that she knew she could just walk out of the hospital...
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Dec 14, 2015 22:16
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I dunno, i've had all sorts of reception issues inside of airports all over the country over the last 5-6 years or so. Especially if i'm on a lower level. Her not being able to send a text doesn't seem unusual.
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Dec 14, 2015 22:23
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It's the train station. It's been a while since I've been at Berlin Hbf but it didn't look like she was on one of the lower levels so signal should be good. It's a pretty silly thing to nitpick over I think.  "Amsterdam" was way, way worse imho.
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Dec 14, 2015 22:25
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mcbexx posted:I'm purely speculating from tv "knowledge" here, but how would Alisons little shooting gallery stand up to forensic scrutiny? No gun powder residue on the dead professor's hand, a close range/point blank entry wound on her shoulder, blood spatter of her partner indicating he was most certainly not shot from where the professor was standing/sitting... This was my immediate thought, yeah. A contact shot to the shoulder screams self-inflicted. Allison probably wasn't expecting the authorities to buy her story for very long, and shooting herself just bought her a little bit of time.
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The music to this episode was great, really helped to build up the tension. And Quinn...actually I feel bad for the actor, Rupert Friend. Yes, he's still on the show but what's it like on set this season? Carrie investigating all the terrorist activity going on, Saul and Dar Adal having great dramatic scenes and every week he gets his script to see: QUINN: (Momentarily regains consciousness) Urgh.... (Passes out) Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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Dec 15, 2015 03:41
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Pretty good episode, the cliffhanger was mean. Was the "Amsterdam" a couple episodes back fake, like somebody here hinted? I've never been there but I know there's a part of Potsdam that's heavily influenced by Dutch architecture and even called Dutch quarter. How convenient.  also about that episode, when Allison rode out to Nikolassee/Potsdam, did anyone else notice the extras looking straight into the camera as she entered the trains? Did they use real people and ask for permission afterwards or what? It was weird.It was good TV all in all but I still thought it was hilarious they claimed the threat was for BER because at this point BER stands for both airports in Berlin, TXL and SXF. The big one that's supposed to replace those two (and is slated to open at SXF's site) is still under construction and way over deadline and budget. It's a loving running gag in Berlin and I wonder if everyone involved (they filmed in cooperation with a local studio who also did Inglourious Basterds too) just said gently caress it.
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Zwille posted:Pretty good episode, the cliffhanger was mean. Yeah it was filmed at the Holländisches Viertel. I suppose its the closest thing to Amsterdam they had in the area but while it looks sort of similar at the same time it's not the same at all. And I happen to know that the actual Amsterdam was eager to have them shoot there I see no other reason than budgetary for them not to just have gone to the real Amsterdam. Kind of lazy imo.
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Hahaha that's great! I already thought the autobahn kinda looked like the Berlin Stadtautobahn around Wedding/Westhafen. I mean what percentage of Homeland viewers would even notice?
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I'm very proud of Homeland because that last episode shows at some point the writers learned that there at least two kinds of Muslims, Sunnis and Shiites, and they aren't best buds with each other.
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HOT SQUATS posted:I'm very proud of Homeland because that last episode shows at some point the writers learned that there at least two kinds of Muslims, Sunnis and Shiites, and they aren't best buds with each other. It is almost like Islam is a real religion with theological schisms that mirror political and social history? Strange.
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spankmeister posted:Yeah it was filmed at the Holländisches Viertel. I suppose its the closest thing to Amsterdam they had in the area but while it looks sort of similar at the same time it's not the same at all. And I happen to know that the actual Amsterdam was eager to have them shoot there I see no other reason than budgetary for them not to just have gone to the real Amsterdam. Kind of lazy imo. It's a huge deal both money and time wise to travel and film at another distant location. TV shows are tight on both those things, it's not like they just shrugged and thought ehhh too lazy can't be bothered going to Amsterdam today, lets just do it down the road. Also nobody outside of Germany or Amsterdam would notice.
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Dec 16, 2015 08:02
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That was a hell of a finale.
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Dec 21, 2015 04:35
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Episode 11 might contain the most completely idiotic scenes I've ever seen on a tv show lmao The writing on this show really went to poo poo
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Dec 21, 2015 04:56
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Poor Quinn got Million Dollar Baby'd. 
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I liked that season. It had flaws for sure but great all around.
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That was a drat good season of television. Hopefully they can come back strong again next year if they're going to be renewed.
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also renewed for season 6! Which surprised me honestly, this felt like a series finale. I also totally called Otto being into Carrie like, 6 episodes ago (not in thread).
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Really enjoyed that finale, and the season as a whole. If anything I think the last two seasons are concrete proof that they should have jumped ship on the Brody plotline after S1, since it dragged on past its natural resolution and they seem more than capable of crafting a quality spy thriller independent of that hook.
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Good show, good season. Poor Quinn.
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Really? I thought that was just as weak as last seasons finale.
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That final scene with Saul, goddamn. Given all that happened this season, it seems very likely that Quinn was killed off, though you don't know for sure. Not sure why. Carrie's final discussion with Otto was out of left field. I'm your boss, and now I want you to be my wife now that you and Jonas are no longer an item. She should absolutely go back and work with Saul; this German arrangement was good for a single season. Overall , really great season, but the finale makes me a little worried about season six.
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jwnin posted:That final scene with Saul, goddamn. Because they want to be able to bring him back after all. Apart from cheapening the final scene in this season, that also doesn't make sense because how is someone who has been in a terrorist threat video broadcast all over the world ever going to go back into the kind of work he did? Or maybe he could be next season's Dana, and we just follow him on his horribly boring normal day adventures as a barely functioning human being.
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Seconding that this was overall a good season and it really felt like a series finale.EricBauman posted:Or maybe he could be next season's Dana, and we just follow him on his horribly boring normal day adventures as a barely functioning human being. You just reminded me of how much the tone of the series shifted from dumb bullshit drama to this. A good development imo. The Iron Rose posted:I also totally called Otto being into Carrie like, 6 episodes ago (not in thread). That was really obvious.
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I am also not quite sure if Quinn actually received the Chief Bromden treatment from Carrie. Who knows? Maybe Carrie was daydreaming some angels came riding down on those sunbeams and told her to take good care of Quinn? Has she been back on her meds? I wouldn't be surprised at all if next season opens with Quinn in a wheelchair, living a happy, married life with Carrie when suddenly a
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I would watch Quinn in a wheelchair killing terrists.
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Bad final, I enjoyed Lahore more than Berlin overall I think.The Iron Rose posted:also renewed for season 6! Which surprised me honestly, this felt like a series finale. Didn't Otto at one point say to Jonas that it was a mistake by him to have hired her because she was crazy?
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I'd really like the terrorists to pull of an attack. Just once
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Dec 21, 2015 19:43
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Dirk Pitt posted:I'd really like the terrorists to pull of an attack. Just once well, the CIA did get bombed end of s2 or s3
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Boatswain posted:Didn't Otto at one point say to Jonas that it was a mistake by him to have hired her because she was crazy? Yes though at the time I thought he was just deflecting questions since he was actively helping her but couldn't tell him.
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No Safe Word posted:Yes though at the time I thought he was just deflecting questions since he was actively helping her but couldn't tell him. Seems now that it might have been a combination of that and "Man Jonas, Carrie is super crazy and you should definitely break up with her" to get Jonas out of the way.
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^^^^ You are probably right.Geno posted:well, the CIA did get bombed end of s2 or s3 And they did attack the embassy and butcher its personel in the last season. Though that was the taliban and not IS I think?
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Quinn needs to just be dead. Dude got shot, gassed, forced back to life, and a major hematoma. This is Jack Bauer/24 levels of recovery already, if they bring him back in any capacity (other than a cameo or two showing him in some form of rehab/recovery) I'd be a little annoyed. MAYBE next season runs across some old footprints of his and they try to get him to remember, but goddamn. I really thought Carrie was going to smother him when she took the monitoring thing off his finger. Overall though, good season, not great. Pacing felt a little strange at times, and I was really surprised that Saul had Allison executed - seems a little out of character for him, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Next year can be half flashbacks, Carrie trying to find out about an old mission by interviewing him in his hospital bed. At least that way, we'd still see him in action without his medical condition becoming ridiculous.
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