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Look i have nothing against tall people, i just don't think they should shove it in our faces. How will I explain it to my kids?
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jeebus bob posted:There's absolutely no way those are based on actual data It was a "literature review" that junked all of the literature because the "experiments" weren't double blinded. Even though double blinding has its obvious limits; for example, you can't really double-blind an experiment into the efficacy of parachutes for skydiving.
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Serperoth posted:Height is a choice I keep telling my wife this, but she refuses to reach the high shelves
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As long a hacksaws stay legal, height will always be a choice
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Sentient Data posted:As long a hacksaws stay legal, height will always be a choice Same, but for being male in the sense of having a dick and balls
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jeebus bob posted:There's absolutely no way those are based on actual data Someone who can actually access papers could probably check the citation at the bottom to see wtf the actual context is on those chats they lifted
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The paper cited in the picture is open access: https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10691233 I haven't gone through the paper yet, but the graph looks pretty much the same, though they note that height is there as a "familiar comparator". Edit: the intro is pretty clear about how neither biological nor social factors are likely to be determinative and instead work together in a complex system. Not sure they'd agree with the conclusions of the citing paper. Napoleon Nelson has a new favorite as of 13:34 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Someone who can actually access papers could probably check the citation at the bottom to see wtf the actual context is on those chats they lifted Being bored, I chased it down. It does actually show up in the referenced paper. However, that paper cites as the basis for it another paper by the same author (Hines, M. (2015). Gendered Development.), which in turn only seems to state Cohen's d values for the distributions. I'm not too firm on my statistics, but as far as I can tell that d just describes how far the means of each group are apart measured in standard deviations (i.e. the horizontal distance between the peaks and overlap). Also, chasing down those sources, specifically for the "identification with the male gender" (Hines, Ahmed, & Hughes, 2003; Hines, Brook, & Conway, 2004), turned out to lead to studies with as few as 30 participants at a time. So yah, that graph seems to be making a rather larger statement on rather little data.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm wondering what it is for "identification with male gender" Zooming in on the graph, there appears to be a small overlap between the two lines. If you look extremely closely you can see a little bit of the red line poking out from behind the blue line. That overlap may represent trans men and women. However, this makes it all the more confusing what exactly the x-axis represents. Ariong has a new favorite as of 17:22 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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Yeah that still doesn't make sense because it means that 99.99% of AMAB people are more man-identifying than the most burly lumberjack trans man in existence. Which is like... very easily demonstrably incorrect. Like have you been outside.
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah that still doesn't make sense because it means that 99.99% of AMAB people are more man-identifying than the most burly lumberjack trans man in existence. Yeah, and it would also mean the graph is saying that the number of XX people who identify with male gender at its peak is the same as the number of XY people, just at a less masculine point of the spectrum. That can’t be right.
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah that still doesn't make sense because it means that 99.99% of AMAB people are more man-identifying than the most burly lumberjack trans man in existence. I managed to track down the metrics/questionnaire they used for that. Turns out it's not anything like "do you consider yourself more masculine or feminine", but rather "Do you want to be of the opposite sex or nah?", which unsurprisingly the average cis person will say no to. The studies were quite small (some 30 people plus control each), so it's no surprise that there's almost only cis people in there. So in the end this graph just kinda says that cis people aren't trans. 
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does cass cite the cogiati
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I think it is pretty clear from the data that tall people are men and short people are women.
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want high heels? waiting list's 20 years for a first appointment, and your gp won't refer you until you're 25 anyway
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Fools Infinite posted:I think it is pretty clear from the data that tall people are men and short people are women. I agree, keep the gender binary as it is, but instead of using genitals as the sorting mechanism, the cutoff for being a man is 180cm. Anyone below is a woman. Gender reassignment is still painful and inaccessible, but it's now using a hacksaw (you can stretch bones this way).
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TinTower posted:It was a "literature review" that junked all of the literature because the "experiments" weren't double blinded. quote:Footnotes
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I’m confused as to what this even has to do with being trans? Like in certain countries men and women sit apart at church. I don’t think a woman who says “gently caress that, that’s stupid I’m sitting next to my brother” somehow has a male identity.
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Domus posted:I’m confused as to what this even has to do with being trans? Like in certain countries men and women sit apart at church. I don’t think a woman who says “gently caress that, that’s stupid I’m sitting next to my brother” somehow has a male identity. Very little, the anti-trans crowd lean hard into biotruths
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Domus posted:I’m confused as to what this even has to do with being trans? Like in certain countries men and women sit apart at church. I don’t think a woman who says “gently caress that, that’s stupid I’m sitting next to my brother” somehow has a male identity. It's kind of a tangent where the report goes on about "Uh there's two sexes, they're super distinct, and gender expression is usually really just determined by sex". It's a recurrent topic in the larger TERF culture war. They're very invested in the idea that there's exactly two easily defined and very distinct sexes and that any common difference in gender expression is either nurture or a direct consequence of biological sex. That in turn lets them argue that being trans is purely psychological, reversible, and a social contagion. It's kinda insane, after those graphs in the report there's a section on gender identity as a concept distinct from birth sex and it's exactly two points long and references a single paper from loving 1966 because the author threw out anything more recent.
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https://bsky.app/profile/carlbergstrom.com/post/3kpwd4mfcfa2d
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Goosing your dingus.
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Took me an hour to solve that thing in Picross.
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Who these top left corner people out there, all rocking a can of skoal
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Bottom right corner, they call me the worm
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ol qwerty bastard posted:Bottom right corner, they call me the worm I will never not lol at the alien guy from Babylon 5 who had a meter long prehensile dick and used it to cheat at cards
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ultrafilter posted:Found on Facebook: Now, here's an idea. If they made the same chart but as a heat map of common penis sizes and overlaid that on top of this one ... And then when the overlap is found to be nearly 100%, think about how evolution might contribute to that status quo. Bingo, instant IgNobel prize. Edit: Yeah I realize that chart is probably bullshit based on some online survey of participants claiming to be women, but let's ignore that for a second
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Now, here's an idea. If they made the same chart but as a heat map of common penis sizes and overlaid that on top of this one ... And then when the overlap is found to be nearly 100%, think about how evolution might contribute to that status quo. Bingo, instant IgNobel prize. im sure penissizedebate.com has thoroughly documented their sampling methodology, cohort sizes, etc Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 23:59 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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gimme a .gov or don't bother
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Tree Goat posted:gimme a .gov or don't bother .edu imo
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I'm curious how many people can accurately gauge circumference by eye. Or I suppose how many people are using calipers on their sexual partners.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm curious how many people can accurately gauge circumference by eye. Or I suppose how many people are using calipers on their sexual partners. lots more pipefitting licentiates out there than you think
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Lemniscate Blue posted:One of the reasons the "glass flows very slowly" thing is so believable is due to old glass panes being thicker at the bottom than at the top - must have flowed down, right?
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Was that to get a consistent density instead of the shape? I figured anything as exact as a telescope lens would be oversized then just precision ground to the correct shape
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Perhaps polishing cannot produce a smooth enough surface and the only solution is casting it in that shape?
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GWBBQ posted:While there are a lot of myths about glass, centrifuging it really precisely as it cools is extremely useful for making telescope mirrors. Below the football stadium at the University of Arizona, a centrifuge was filled with 20 tons of molten glass at a time and used to form the 7 segments of the 25 meter Giant Magellan Telescope. You can take a tour of the mirror lab, it's sick as heck
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Sentient Data posted:Was that to get a consistent density instead of the shape? I figured anything as exact as a telescope lens would be oversized then just precision ground to the correct shape By interesting coincidence, a fluid being rotated naturally assumes the shape of a parabola, and this is also the ideal shape for a telescope mirror. Casting the glass at nearly the correct shape makes grinding it to the correct shape much cheaper and faster. Similarly, there are proposals to build a telescope on the moon by using a rotating vat of liquid mercury to act as a naturally stable perfect mirror. You need to put it on the moon so it can be exposed to the sky, but not exposed to an atmosphere that will oxidize the metal.
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