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The Something Awful Forums > Archives > Comedy Goldmine > The Goodmine > Why Should We Care About Property Rights?
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RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Wolfsheim posted:

Are you guys seriously surprised that jrode is as ignorant of the Middle East as he is economics/medicine/everything else? I almost wonder why it hasn't come up sooner.

Since he's not going to answer anyone's questions anyway I almost wish he would just start posting about random things just to see how wrong he gets it. Like, jrode's guide to making a PB&J sandwich ends up with the peanut butter on the outside of the bread and the jelly thrown in the trash.

He doesn't have to pay the man taxes because he deliberately avoids becoming successful so the government won't regulate him further.

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RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

jrodefeld posted:

No, I don't care about people who VOLUNTARILY choose to live in a socialist society. What I am opposed to, as I've said so many times, is using aggression against people. Let's suppose that a voluntary socialist was able to convince all workers in a free society to quit their jobs at the same time, pool their resources, buy land on the market and open mutualist cooperatives where they would share all their resources and all profits they make on the market.

I wouldn't life a finger to prevent them from doing this. This is provided that their actions are voluntary and they don't steal any land. That is, they voluntarily quit their jobs but don't steal the legitimate property of their employer (i.e. the factory or equipment) and the land they buy is freely sold to them on the market. They don't coerce anyone into joining their cause against their will but instead try and persuade other working-class people to join them.

That would be absolutely fine with me. The problem comes if or when they use violence to prevent a laborer from freely trading his or her labor for wages to an entrepreneur and similarly prevent an entrepreneur from purchasing land and/or a factory and then employing laborers. Provided, as I continually stipulate, that all interactions are entirely voluntary.

There are very few socialists who are willing to maintain peace in their efforts to create their "worker's paradise".

If you ARE willing to keep the peace and work towards your socialist goals by respecting homesteaded legitimately acquired private property and using persuasion rather than aggression to get compliance with your values, then you will be entirely welcome in a libertarian free society.

You absolutely choose not to reciprocate this courtesy to the libertarian.

There he goes putting words in my statist mouth again, are you guys ready to admit you're trying to reason with a rock face yet?

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