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Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Caros posted:

As a former libertarian I think I can give a pretty solid definition of what property is from the libertarian viewpoint.

What changed you, if it's not too personal a question?

I remember years ago that I was starting to think that Ron Paul had some really great ideas when a retired treasury agent of my acquaintance sat me down and politely explained to me that I was being an idiot. I'm grateful for that, because in an alternate universe, I could be rereading Atlas Shrugged for the umpteenth time right now.

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Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Nessus posted:

Has Jrode compensated his mother for occupying her self for ten months, to say nothing of additional labor and similar costs entailed in the begetting of a child? Have they negotiated the contract? Clearly significant monies are owed as compensation, though the details, perhaps, may vary.

Shouldn't his mother owe him for being given the privilege of bearing and raising a paragon of libertarian thought?

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Andrast posted:

I also like the idea of hiring thugs to beat up people who may or may not be guilty.

And if you steal the victim's money, you leave them unable to buy their justice.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

YF19pilot posted:

therefor a government should not be any bigger than is necessary to perform it's agreed upon duties as set by the people who installed it and who are represented by it. Obviously, this means that government can, will, and should fluctuate in size according to the will of the people as to the duties of the government

It's always so odd to me when someone touts this as a cornerstone of their political beliefs. I view it as right up there with statements such as "murder should be illegal". Outside of nepotism and other forms of corruption (which are illegal, but can be difficult to prove), could you point out one department of the US government whose purpose isn't to perform duties agreed upon by the people or their duly-elected representatives?

Hello Sailor fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Oct 17, 2015

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here


Jrod, given those two options would you say that in a libertarian society that either parents have no obligation to provide for their children or that parents have the right to sell their children and that in either case we just have to accept that some parents will choose to be horrible?

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Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

What's all the fuss? Can't his grandparents just fork over the weregild?

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