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Mister Perky
Aug 2, 2010

TV Zombie posted:

If Harvey throws at Utley's head, that's an immediate ejection? Could he claim he lost his grip?

Less likely during playoff time, but any time the umpire deems a bean ball to be intentional he is at liberty to eject the pitcher who threw it and the team's manager for presumably ordering the hit. There does not have to be a previous bean ball in the game. There does not have to be an official warning issued to both benches. The intentional bean ball doesn't even have to actually hit the batter. Guys get tossed after pitches that miss all the time because its still obvious what they were trying to do. Good umpires who are paying attention to the context of the game/series and who's pissed off at who for violating baseball bushido somehow know when this poo poo is coming and nip it in the bud before it starts.

(Un)fortunately that does not apply to the 2015 MLB postseason as they seem to be trying to field all the shithead umps for the 4 LDS series' (I know Phil Cuzzi and Angel Hernandez are out there, didn't see who the Mets and Dodgers got). They might be dumbshit enough to let Harvey get away with it, and Phil Cuzzi might even call it a strike :lol: M I RITE CUBS AND CARDS FANS?

Precedent heavily favors the umpires issuing an official warning in game before proceeding to eject any pitcher deliberately plunking a batter. Umpires can and sometimes do issue the warning before the game even starts/as it starts, usually when poo poo went down in the previous game in the series (that would certainly apply to game 3 here).

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