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Fighting fire with fire.

While Islam seems unchangeable because by its very nature it is axiomatic and dogmatic, there is one loophole, in two separate contexts.

if Islam is the word of Muhammed, then the only one who can fundamentally alter the texts is by Muhammed himself, or a recognized descendant (and prophet) of Muhammed.

After all, both sides (Shia and Sunni) would have to respect the visionary.

Enter King Abdullah II of Jordan, a direct descendant of Muhammed, with the requisite political power to be taken seriously.

I'll explain the first option through the popular Sci-Fi phenomenon of Star Wars:

Well, Luke was torn.

Between following the code of the Jedi vs following the lusty nature of the Empire, he is torn between his allegiance to his father, Darth Vader, and to the rebel base.

King Abdullah is Luke, a descendant of a powerful ancestor. Muhammed is Darth Vader, a man turned to the Dark Side, who helped the Empire (Islam) gain great footholds over the galaxy (Planet Earth).

Emperor Palpatine is Abu Bakr-Al Baghdadi, the personification of evil, but only following the powers invested in him from the Senate (he is a terrible person, but didn't actually do anything legally wrong senate-wise). He also didn't create the Jedi Order, but is just trying to return it to his (accurate) version of the force - unleashing the original powers via hatred.

Remember that like America after 9/11, the Jedi Senate arrested (or tried to, anyway) Senator Palpatine without just cause, without fair trial, and did so with lightsabers turned on. In self-defence, he naturally killed them (just as you cannot take off a cop uniform and raid a house without a warrant - the guy inside might think you're ).

Ergo, King Abdullah II has to decide between following the destiny of his "father" and joining the Empire, or between following the path of a more progressive age, with his non-Muslim friends, Han Solo (hilariously Jewish apparently), Leia (Christian queen), and Chewbacca (the family dog?) that he has come to grow and love (Star Trek, Georgetown University, Stanford University, partnerships with Egypt and Israel).

Luke's actions, by their virtue of being committed by that one descendant, send powerful messages that a new dawn has arisen over the Empire, and that a dark ages is finally over.

Just to take this full-circle in the new trailer for the upcoming Star Wars movie, Luke states:

> "You have that power too. In time you'll learn to use it as I have. The Force runs strong in my family. My father has it. I have it. "

Luke states (implicitly) because of his contributions to the Force, he has paved the way for others to help re-build the Jedi Order (or something close to it), whereby it's acceptable to use the Force once more, and not confined to a prior age.

King Abdullah II will usher in a new understanding of Islam, a righteous one, based on actual love and peace, with his contributions in (hopefully) reforming the loophole.

However, this option places too much credit on the Muslims adhering to Islam, and since the Quran wouldn't be fundamentally changed, it would still enable terror attacks in the name of Islam. The religious sectarian war between Sunni and Shia would still occur, and as seen in Libya, and the with the Arab Spring, the rebels wouldn't know if they wanted a Caliphate, a secular pro-Western country, or what they want at all. It's too risky to think that people would automatically change their opinions about Islam, especially when the very idea of Islam is axiomatic, dogmatic, and believed to be the Religion of Peace, even though there's much evidence to the contrary that it's anything but peaceful.

Therefore, the second (and more absolute) way of reforming Islam is through the establishment of a Caliphate (which is the original goal of Islam, and of all the terrorist groups - Shia or Sunni).

King Abdullah II (related to Muhammed, and thus respected by all sides) would need to follow the code of the Quran and establish a Caliphate. Once declared the Caliph leader (although the counterpart of ISIS), he would be able to make sweeping reformations to the Quran, as part of a new era of Islam.

However, it couldn't be done through treaties establishing temporary control, because the very ideology requires that Islam is spread through forceful conversion (the penalty for apostasy is death), and by the sword and not through trade negotiations.

However, he seems to be a good candidate (and our only hope) because his Kingdom of Jordan seems to be moderate, and Abdullah II acknowledges it wasn't because of introspection of the Quran, but of the British protectorate system that imbued healthy values unto him.

His family has been educated at Georgetown university, and Stanford university, and he's a huge fan of Star Trek (and their peaceful 23rd century space federation).

Like Anakin Skywalker, he would need to embrace his dark side as Darth Vader in order to finally help overthrow the Empire (by throwing the Emperor down an exhaust tunnel).

But that's the scary option because that's too much power to trust to one man. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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hello meme thread, is it racist for white posters to post dat boi please advise I need to know as I do not want to commit meme faux-pas



How the Racial Politics of Dat Boi Ripped Apart a Popular Facebook Group

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what are those "did you find X on Y?" memes called, anyway?

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GoGoGadgetChris posted:

I've definitely seen an Imgur dump of like 20+ of them, but sometimes I think there's a much bigger Imgur/goon crossover than we admit. Our jokes show up in the comments all the time.

gently caress, no chance anyone has a link to that imgur? this poo poo is top grade

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vaguely remember one like this that was nothing but watermarks from top to bottom, anyone have something like that?

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Kajeesus posted:

Yeah what kind of dick keeps bringing up a dude after the people who shot him explicitly asked you to stop talking about how they killed him? Bad form imo

Jamesman posted:

Racists, mostly.

Because equating a violent gorilla with black people is the height of hilarity.

This isn't really a thing outside of /pol/ and stormfront. The bulk of meme pages even during peak Harambe were not making those kinds of jokes.

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Wrap it up everyone, this meme is a Title IX offense.

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Mogomra posted:

This is unreal. Is hillaryclinton.com a parody website or something? What the gently caress.



That article sure reads like a parody, although I'm sure the "Harambe is racist" posters itt would agree with it.

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Who What Now posted:

It's more "unironic racists are using memes"

Ideological purity demands that all memes used by racists be proscribed. By the 2020 election cycle all memes will experience brief Correctness before being posted once to /pol/ or stormfront, damning them forevermore.

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perfect reactions imho

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Dienes posted:

Well, they were flat out told certain things would be in the game (e.g., multiplayer), which then weren't in the game or were so rare they might as well not be in the game.

This. NMS had a lot of unrealistic hype built up around it but the devs stoked those fires hard, and in quite a few cases outright lied. At best they let a Peter Molyneux / Todd Howard type blab too much, at worst they were happy to go on Colbert or whatever and just bold-face lie. That video is pretty good for editing together several years worth of BS, if Sean Murray mentions some feature it probably didn't make it to the final version.

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Somfin posted:

Yup, if there's one thing that really revs the engine of a forum full of 30-something programmer-type nerds, it's deleting a forum for (one month and one week out from) Halloween. Boy howdy they got me with that one. It's almost like the "holy gently caress this place is racist" explanation was just there as a useful cover for their real goal: Pranking the most pathetic contingent of this dying gay forum (and I include D&D posters in that comparison) by deleting the place they post most often to celebrate a holiday for children.

Forums shenanigans have been done before, around October no less, and are a plausible justification for why this happened. Chill.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EN4dDOABN0

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http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/pepe-the-frog.html

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