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discworld is all I read
Apr 7, 2009

DAIJOUBU!! ... Daijoubu ?? ?

Zain posted:

These ghosts have SOOO much health. That seems completely unreasonable. Like I get that they shouldn't die in like 2 photos but like 7 seems exorbitant.
I'm sure it's a lot more manageable when they combo shots together; at least in Fatal Frame 4, it was pretty necessary to do like 5 hit combos to really damage ghosts and take them down quickly. Otherwise you were doing pitiful amounts of damage. I think it was to meet people halfway so that people didn't have to do pro skill shots, but instead were given easier fatal frame opportunities that they had to combo instead.

tlarn posted:

Any idea of the current Camera Obscuras were models used in previous games, or if they look like actual new Cameras?
It looks vaguely similar to the Fatal Frame 2 camera:

vs.

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CryingAthena
Nov 12, 2013
The escort girl is giving me PTSD from Fatal Frame 2 and Mayu getting her huge head in front of every single vanishing and battle ghost in the PS2-version.

It's amazing how the notes talk about a dignified death but the ghosts just divebomb you in the most inelegant way possible. :allears:

I like to think that Kunihiko Asou made many different versions of the Camera Obscura, just as part of the development cycle. That would also cover why they look different between games: many prototypes!

You've probably noticed this already, but Rui's a girl. Pants and all. She also refers to Ren as sensei in the original Japanese.

By the way, is there any chance you could turn up the volume of the game? It's nearly impossible to hear the voice acting (unless it's just me being half-deaf in which case I apologize). :blush:

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?
It's great how you just get right up in the ghosts faces like the worst paparazzi.
"Can you tell me how you died, miss?!" :allears:

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Can you customize your buddy into Homeless Bieber?

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
Playing this game with people watching is the worst.

"Hey, your taint is full, maybe you shouldn't get so wet next time."

I am 100% sure the developers were aware this would happen

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
I'd've thought that Postmortem Photography means the deceased's soul has already gone on to their next destination, so taking a photo was harmless now.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe

SelenicMartian posted:

Can you customize your buddy into Homeless Bieber?

God, if only. There's no customization in this game aside from the costumes, I don't think.

HenryEx posted:

Playing this game with people watching is the worst.

"Hey, your taint is full, maybe you shouldn't get so wet next time."

I am 100% sure the developers were aware this would happen

This is Tecmo, so yeah, I'm sure they knew about that.

CryingAthena posted:

You've probably noticed this already, but Rui's a girl. Pants and all. She also refers to Ren as sensei in the original Japanese.

By the way, is there any chance you could turn up the volume of the game? It's nearly impossible to hear the voice acting (unless it's just me being half-deaf in which case I apologize). :blush:

Yeah, we realized that after we were done recording. :P I kind of feel bad now. Also, yeah, we'll make sure it's a bit easier to hear the in-game stuff this time around.

CrazySalamander
Nov 5, 2009
I'm pretty sure escort girl counts as another face so you can more easily do things that require multiple ghosts like knockbacks.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
Woohoo, it's Part 5! There are some pretty cool fight scenes in this one; I'm starting to get pumped now!

CrazySalamander posted:

I'm pretty sure escort girl counts as another face so you can more easily do things that require multiple ghosts like knockbacks.

Holy crap, I didn't even think of that, but it absolutely makes sense.

CryingAthena
Nov 12, 2013
When are we getting the fanart of Rui just standing there as Ren is screaming his head off snapping photos of non-visible ghosts? "Oh, sensei! You silly thing. :allears:"

I'm getting the sense that the game is darker than the previous installments - so much black and somehow you're supposed to see a shadow in pitch black darkness to take a picture of. I don't blame you guys for not being able to figure out where you're going. Rui should just do Marco Polo to speed things up.

"Rui, are you alright?!"
"-background noise screaming 'NOOOOO'-" :allears:

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?
You're the worst bossfriend ever.
"Oh poo poo, looks like she's gonna hang herself! I have to save her! But first... A picture to commemorate."

CrazySalamander
Nov 5, 2009
Have we seen mirrors in any camera accessible place yet? If so, can we use our own face to improve our shots? Will getting a ghost in a mirror and the ghost itself in a photo count twice?

E:Man if that worked and I had a camera obscura it would be ghost selfies in front of a mirror on a little red wagon everyday.

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.
Taking selfies with ghosts should totally be a thing because then you'd have one extra core in-frame for combos and extra damage, with the downside that your character is either blind-firing behind them or they're obscuring some of your view.

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?

tlarn posted:

Taking selfies with ghosts should totally be a thing because then you'd have one extra core in-frame for combos and extra damage, with the downside that your character is either blind-firing behind them or they're obscuring some of your view.

Hey, if it's good enough for Wind Waker it's good enough for Water Lady.

Amidiri
Apr 26, 2010
I love your reaction to what I assume are vanishing ghosts. 'Wh- what was that? Was something there!?'

Also the health bar is at the bottom of the like, aiming circle? Right above the five orb thingies.

Amidiri fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Nov 11, 2015

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
Hey, everybody, it's time for part 6! There's a lot of reading in the beginning of this one, but it picks up later on in the episode. I really enjoyed doing this one, for some reason; it just came together really nicely.

Roro posted:

Hey, if it's good enough for Wind Waker it's good enough for Water Lady.

I can't believe some of the selfie shots people have been able to get in The Wind Waker HD. I haven't gone back to try that much myself, but some of the screenshots online are hilarious.

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?
Since we've spent more time in the inn, I nerded up a bit more and looked at the significance of the flowers in the house. I'm not sure if the lotus and hibiscus are the right flowers since we can't actually examine them, but hey! What's a little guesswork among friends?

Yuri's dress (back), lotus(?): far from the one s/he loves
Yuri's room, sunflower/himawari: love and respect
Hisoka's room near door, cherry blossom/sakura: kind or gentle OR plum blossom/ume: pure and true
Hisoka's room near desk, hibiscus(?)/haibisukasu: gentle

Also, re Miku, for the love of God please do not look her up on the wiki like I did. :stare:

EDIT: Jesus Christ, the dolls.

Roro fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Nov 15, 2015

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I wish at least one of those characters kicked the doors down after charging a kick to mask room loading time, instead of slowly reaching for knobs.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe

Roro posted:

Also, re Miku, for the love of God please do not look her up on the wiki like I did. :stare:

Oh, poo poo, did you get spoiled? I'm avoiding any wiki stuff until I'm finished.

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?

pedrovay2003 posted:

Oh, poo poo, did you get spoiled? I'm avoiding any wiki stuff until I'm finished.

I was spoiled, and can I just say it's loving awful, like drat. Japan is gross.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe

Roro posted:

I was spoiled, and can I just say it's loving awful, like drat. Japan is gross.

Oh, great. :( Not Miku, she's too cool to have gross things happen to her!

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
Part 7 is here! Amy and I get into a debate about part of the game in this episode. Who will come out on top? IT'S ME, IT'S PETER.

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.
That one girl was awful casual and it made me laugh way more than it should have.

"Oh hey, didn't see you there. Oh, you wanna go that way? That's cool, that's cool. How about a game first? :haw:"

Eldataluta
May 31, 2012
I'm really confused because I'm pretty sure that Miku died in the third game? I really remember that being a thing that happened.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe

Eldataluta posted:

I'm really confused because I'm pretty sure that Miku died in the third game? I really remember that being a thing that happened.

I think it may have depended on the ending (there were slightly different endings in The Tormented), but Miku definitely survived. She was spirited away temporarily, but Rei saved her.

Eldataluta
May 31, 2012
Oh, I see. I never saw the "good' ending of that game, and given the grand Fatal Frame tradition of the worst ending being the canon ending up until that point I had just assumed that they would go with the Miku's dead ending. Does Kei also survive that game then? Because I'm pretty sure he died in the ending I got there too.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
Yup, Kei lives, too. And I know what you mean, that's the only Fatal Frame game that goes off of the good ending in the sequel. It surprised me, too.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

I think Miku always survives the third game, but whether Kei survives or not depends on if you've picked up a certain item as him that only appears on your second playthrough. And yeah, barring Fatal Frame 4 and obviously 5 in which you don't know what the canon ending is, 3's the only game which has the good ending be canon.

Nyagato
Apr 6, 2009
Doesn't the world end in 3 's bad end though?

I haven't played 1 and 2 so I don't know if this is how it usually is.

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?
Your arguing was hilarious, it was like listening to a married couple trying to drive. :allears: And the ghost popping up again and vanishing almost immediately was great too, like she knew she didn't want to get involved.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Nyagato posted:

Doesn't the world end in 3 's bad end though?

I haven't played 1 and 2 so I don't know if this is how it usually is.

No. If everyone died in Fatal Frame 3, all that'd happen is that the curse would spread to some other poor schmucks who've recently lost a loved one where they'd end up drawn into the Manor of Sleep and eventually killed by Reika. It isn't world ending though.

D_W
Nov 12, 2013

Roro posted:

Your arguing was hilarious, it was like listening to a married couple trying to drive. :allears: And the ghost popping up again and vanishing almost immediately was great too, like she knew she didn't want to get involved.

Considering they're a married couple and one of the is essentially driving the game by controlling the character, this is not far from the truth.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
It's time for part 8! There are some pretty cool fights in this one, and the story moves forward a bit more.

CrazySalamander
Nov 5, 2009
Pretty cool to have the theory confirmed, but man she sure dances around like a loon in the water. Makes actually using her a pain. Also, the camera controls look a little sluggish, especially for capturing vanishing ghosts- is that the case here?

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Roro posted:

I was spoiled, and can I just say it's loving awful, like drat. Japan is gross.

First of all, i want to say that it's great there is an LP of this, why am i just now discovering it and why are yall so great :allears:


Secondly, i would normally chock what you're talking about up to people on the internet going crazy with fan theories but...really there isn't much presented in the game that flat out denies it either and in fact just strengthens that argument :psyduck:

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

First of all, i want to say that it's great there is an LP of this, why am i just now discovering it and why are yall so great :allears:

Should check out their Skate 3 LP they wrapped up recently. Good poo poo. :ssh:

Nyagato
Apr 6, 2009
The arrows to items and ghosts seem to point according to where they are in relation to the center of the camera, not your character. It's really stupid but that's what it seems like.

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
Aw, you guys are all fantastic. :allears:


Nyagato posted:

The arrows to items and ghosts seem to point according to where they are in relation to the center of the camera, not your character. It's really stupid but that's what it seems like.

Yeah, it does seem like that, but it still sucks. :P

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

First of all, i want to say that it's great there is an LP of this, why am i just now discovering it and why are yall so great :allears:

The Calling was sooo charming. You shoulda seen that one.

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pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe
Part 9 is up now! In a little bit, I'm going to post some awesome photos of the European collector's edition of the game; a friend of mine in Germany tracked down the only one he could find and sent it my way. :D

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