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Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Get a really big box and live in that. It'll have about the same level of insulation and you can prop it up anywhere you want. Plus your dog will love it and you'll smell about the same level of bad as if you lived on a boat instead

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Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
It sounds like 20 year leases for a boat are a real thing but the idea of someone having one is really funny to me.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Why doesn't your girlfriend support your decision? Doesn't she understand that you've already thought through everything

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

The marina has these wall coverings that look like windshield shades or the inside of a pizza delivery bag that go on the boat walls for winter to help keep you warm.

Dang living in a floating pizza delivery bag during the winter sounds cool as heck, kinda jealous now OP.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
That romantic feeling when you're heating up hot pockets on top of your space heater for you and the misses on your boat shack

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Why buy a boat when you could save even more money by building your own!

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

CellarDweller posted:

How hard do you think it is to repossess a houseboat? How hard is it to sell a houseboat after you repossessed it? I would guess that houseboat loans really are not any better than unsecured loans from the bank's perspective.

Also, did you ask any of the owners how long they have had their houseboats on the market?

If you tie your boat up just far enough away from the dock that they can't jump to it then the repossessers can never get you!

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:


Not when it'll be a houseboat docked to a marina %90 of the time. It's basically a cheap floating house.

what about the other 10%

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Just build your own boat dude, the savings will be immense.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

oxsnard posted:

That 11 percent interest will eat up p much all of your Salty Sea Wench budget imho

OP have you considered what you'll do if you get attacked by Minnesotan pirates??

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

spwrozek posted:

Boaters courses are typically only required for 12-17 year olds. I am pretty sure that is the case in MN. It may get you an insurance discount, like a defensive driving course. It is most likely not a requirement though.

If you're gonna live on a boat it might be a good idea to have taken a safety course regardless of the requirements. But paying for one would cut into the savings!

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
OP have you considered asking your GF to cosign a boat loan

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
the boat market is really bad except for me, it will be really good for me

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

I put my houseboat up on trestles in my back garden for 20 years and I wouldn't change a thing

Maybe OP should plan to do the same, it would really cut down on his docking and winterizing expenses.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
OP why isnt your girlfriend helping you fulfill your dreams

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

MrKatharsis posted:

The OP could dig a sweet little hobbit cave complex down there if he had enough shovels.

and think about how cheap the rent would be!

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Can you just get a RV and attach pontoons or pool noodles to the sides to turn it into a houseboat?? I just read an article in the WSJ that said there is a big market right now for cheaper RVs for the younger generation

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
OP could buy one of these RV Boats and ditch his car in the process. The savings potential here is incredible.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
You should definitely lie to your insurance and get commercial insurance for your personal home

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

The way it was explained to me is that it's not lying if I do use it for a business purpose. So if for example I do some "offsite" backups I could justify owning the boat as a business expense for that. I could also claim it as an office and not take the home office deduction. This was a real CPA not some backwater dock accountant either who I met with.

You're using it as a primary residence and not "offsite backup" so yea its lying and if/when your insurance finds out they will dump you and/or fine you! He's a bad CPA

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Veskit posted:

Hey BaseballPCHiker came here to get help and receive answers, not have more problems be made so lets brainstorm some businesses that are above water for him.

OP could probably hire a local starving artist for pretty cheap to mock up some BUSINESS SIGNS and business cards to prove that his boat dog daycare and server business is legit.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Veskit posted:

I got it, he spends an hour a week, tops, fishing off his boat. Catches fish, gives it to charity because he's set up his boat business as non profit, EVERYONE WINS

The potential savings here when you get non-profit status are incredible. He can hire his dog and girlfriend as "employees" and pass money through them to get nice tax breaks.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

The only thing I'll have to worry about really is the occasional mechanical issue and creature comfort concerns like heating.

Have you put any thought into what business you are going to tell your insurance your boat is for

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

You are right about not having enough money to buy it in the first place though which sucks. I have enough that with PMI I could probably go buy a house but the bank wants to be lame and not play ball.

Yea but that was before when you were trying to buy a box boat as a personal residence. Now that its a ~~BUSINESS BOAT~~ you can go in for a business loan

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Veskit posted:

Why can you insure an entire boat when you're only using a portion of it for insurance. Are you 100% positive you can insure the entirety of asset of the boat even though only a % is on the books?

He said he was going to tell the insurance it was an entertainment boat solely used for his business and Im pretty entertained so checks out to me.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

r0ck0 posted:

Have you tried going to a loan shark?

Boats and sharks have historically never gotten along so I think this would be a great white waste of time for the OP

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I wont own the boat my corporation would own the boat.

I really want to know what your boat company is going to be called and what the fake business will fake do. Please report back if you come to a decision about these.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Droo posted:

Everyone is telling you to go for it and that it's a great idea. Why haven't you bought it yet?

Personally I can't believe that more people haven't thought of this sooner.

The one trick to cutting your rent that landlords don't want you to know about!

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Pick posted:

I feel so, so, so bad for this dog, which is going to die in the cold.

Good thing businesses can recognize losses

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

r0ck0 posted:

He could use this same idea for getting a boat loan. Simply apply for a house loan, get the paper work all filled out and then insert "boat" after "house".

Maybe he could also just get a smaller loan and photoshop in a few 0's until he has enough to buy a boat

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
I'd vote on naming the boat Icarus but that might be stepping on Slow Motion's territory.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
OP have you considered faking a law degree for your dog so you can have it make you a lawyer letter telling the bank they have to give you a loan or they will go to jail

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Foma posted:

what about hitting up lending tree or some other peer to peer lending for boat moneu=y

Or maybe a bunch of different payday loan people and use the incredible savings OP is going to have to repay them

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

slap me silly posted:

That's because it's hard to see under water!

Haha

BaseballPCHiker posted:

It will probably also need the roof to be re-waterproofed or whatever the hell one does to a houseboat roof.

Can you just put a tarp over it or something? Maybe leave the winter bubblewrap stuff on it all year round to keep the rain out

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

detectivemonkey posted:

Please learn what this is before you buy the boat though.

He's already figured out how to have high speed internet on the boat, he can just google it later once he owns the boat.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

The Lord of Hats posted:

As a fellow Twin Cities resident, I feel the need to make clear to people in this thread that while this is far from the worst winter I've experienced (it actually got started weirdly late), it is still goddamn cold out. He is going to be freezing his rear end off in a houseboat and unable to rent anywhere because of the shenanigans he pulled, but it's all going to get better when he gets convicted of insurance fraud.

His accountant said it was an okay thing to do so I am sure he will be completely fine.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

Well all you Debbie Downers ought to be pleased as punch. No boat for me this weekend. I went and took a look at it and it was pretty solid, better than I thought actually. Just dirty and filled with crap on the inside. The inside cabin definitely needs work to make it look nice but is livable as is. Unfortunately the guy is desperate for money and wasnt willing to work out a payment plan even with 1/4 down. So now I have to really scramble to find something or end back up in another overpriced apartment.

I'm going to make some posts on some boat forums and put up some flyers and see if maybe someone would rent out there boat to me through the year, that would still save me some money and give me some good boat experience.

All in all I feel as if my floating titanic of fiscal responsibility and fun just got sunk by the iceberg of reality and poo poo bankers.

But renting isn't going to build the boat equity you wanted and you can't resell a rented boat.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

detectivemonkey posted:

You don't seem to know that much about boat maintenance, so what are you looking for to make this determination?

He asked a few guys that were hanging around the marina

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

The next time Im in the twin cities I hope to see your houseboat floating along while you live your boat dreams

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Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
OP have you considered getting a submarine instead? That way you only need to pay docking fees when you come ashore and you won't have to worry about ice forming around your hull in winter.

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