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I don't use anything but Napa gold filters and Rotella T5 in my two Jeeps. Question: is there anything special about Motorex motorcycle oil? My KTM dirt bike has a sticker on the crank case that says to only use Motorex. I have been doing it, but it's $12 per liter and I would rather just throw some Rotella in there since the dirt bikes need the oil changed weekly during the height of riding season.
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delo 400LE is the best oil because when you spill it on hot engine parts it smells like delicious toast
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Nov 5, 2015 10:14
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atomicthumbs posted:delo 400LE is the best oil because when you spill it on hot engine parts it smells like delicious toast This changes everything! (as I'm always spilling oil on engines)
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Nov 5, 2015 10:15
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MustardFacial posted:Do you have to use special motorbike oil for motorbikes? The manual just says use 10W-40, but doesn't specify if it needs unicorn tear oil or if any 'ol Korean Tire brand will do. Everybody I talk to says to use the special bike oil, but I'm not inclined to believe them because bike people are loving retards on the best of days when it comes to being a mechanic. iwentdoodie posted:What bike? 1500quidporsche posted:Diesel oil works with wet clutches but otherwise you do need special motorcycle oil. Special motorcycle oil is scam, it's the same oil as from the manufacturer's car oil line, with a different label on the jug and a 50-100% markup. There is no difference in shear strength, longevity, detergents, ability to suspend contamination particles or any other important parameter. But motorcycle guys are generally a very worrisome bunch that like to believe they're pampering their precious moto-babies, so they'll buy anything that says "special stuff for MOTORCYCLES!", even if it's just same old poo poo as everything else, with a big markup. The only thing you really have to worry about is to avoid oils that say "energy conserving" if your bike has a wet clutch, as the special additives they contain will contaminate the clutch plates and make it slip. So follow this handy-dandy chart, buy a "car oil" with the correct viscosity and save money:  I ran completely normal full synthetic 5w40 in my bikes for years with no issues at all, at half the price of the basic semi-synthetic Motul stuff. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Nov 5, 2015 10:18
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KozmoNaut posted:Special motorcycle oil is scam, it's the same oil as from the manufacturer's car oil line, with a different label on the jug and a 50-100% markup. There is no difference in shear strength, longevity, detergents, ability to suspend contamination particles or any other important parameter. But motorcycle guys are generally a very worrisome bunch that like to believe they're pampering their precious moto-babies, so they'll buy anything that says "special stuff for MOTORCYCLES!", even if it's just same old poo poo as everything else, with a big markup. I'm putting this in the OP
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Nov 5, 2015 10:19
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Geirskogul posted:This changes everything! Pretty sure your engines are always spilling oil on themselves, actually  (   )
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Nov 5, 2015 17:15
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Little from column A, but yeah, mostly from column B.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:41
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The Rotella silenced a lot of the typewriter noises, I'm sold. There is a rattling noise in one of the valve covers, so that's a bit alarming, but hopefully we'll get the van into some professionals and they can tell us all about it.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:48
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kastein posted:Pretty sure your engines are always spilling oil on themselves, actually Ditto! No energy conserving for wetclutch bikes, otherwise, run that stuff!
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Nov 6, 2015 05:54
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Anyone got any ideas on what should be safe maximum oil temps on a turbocharged motor? Normal driving sees around 90c, fast motorway is about 100c and on track I see max temps of about 130c after about 15 laps on a fairly hot day. Running 5w50 Motul stuff, just wonder if its worth investing in an additional oil cooler.
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Nov 6, 2015 12:41
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I believe 130C is the limit for most oils and past that they start breaking down.
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Nov 6, 2015 13:27
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Yeah, that's a safe limit. 260F to 280F depending on the oil. 130C works out to 266F.
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Nov 6, 2015 16:38
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My friend ran Mobil 1 in his Evo on the track up to but never over 280. Every time we sent a sample to Blackstone the results came back acceptable.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:29
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Slack3r posted:OIL FILTER CHAT... FYI these pieces of poo poo are called "E-Core" filters.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:20
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Geirskogul posted:OH, it's a two stroke? My 66' Yamaha two stroke calls for 20/50 in the engine and straight 30 in the injector tank because lol two strokes
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Nov 8, 2015 08:19
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track day bro! posted:Anyone got any ideas on what should be safe maximum oil temps on a turbocharged motor? Normal driving sees around 90c, fast motorway is about 100c and on track I see max temps of about 130c after about 15 laps on a fairly hot day. Running 5w50 Motul stuff, just wonder if its worth investing in an additional oil cooler. Along a similar vein of thought- I recently purchased a Focus ST. The problem that I foresee is that my daily commute is very short (5 miles) and once it gets colder outside the oil will never reach a high enough temperature for the oil pressure gauge to not be perpetually pegged (or close to it) due to the thickening of oil at lower temps. The manual suggests 5w-30 semi-synthetic, but in my situation would it be wise to move to either 0w30 synthetic / full synthetic 5w-30? Or am I imagining something that isn't going to be a problem at all.
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Nov 8, 2015 15:36
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track day bro! posted:Anyone got any ideas on what should be safe maximum oil temps on a turbocharged motor? I once knew a guy who insisted that Mobil1 was perfectly safe at over 300 degrees in his Corvair in Phoenix. Coincidentally, I never once saw it run.
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Nov 8, 2015 17:20
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Rotella T6 is $27.99 a gallon and my car holds 7 quarts 
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Nov 9, 2015 19:13
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atomicthumbs posted:Rotella T6 is $27.99 a gallon and my car holds 7 quarts My car holds 9
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Nov 9, 2015 19:25
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CornHolio posted:My car holds 9 My truck is 10 with filter... offset by the 3.8 for the Fit Army.
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Nov 9, 2015 19:49
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Come to Canada. T6 is regularly $48 + tax for 5l jug. On sale it drops to $40. Definitely not the cheapest oil around, although if you get it on sale plus the $7 ish mail in rebate it's not bad. Full synth 5w-30 regularly drops down to $30 ish for a 5l jug, brand depending on week of sale. But T6 is soo nice for turbo motors and subies in general, so that's what I prefer to throw in mine.
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Nov 9, 2015 21:01
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Going to put some: In the Benz, was cheap too! 50 euros (shipping included) for 10 liters!
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Nov 10, 2015 00:39
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I do Mobil 1 5w-30 with oversized filters every 4000 miles or so which seems absurd but if you don't treat your first generation Saab B235 engine's idiotic lubrication system extremely gingerly they famously tend to destroy themselves! I'm probably too paranoid but I regularly buy it when I see it on sale and I only need four quarts per change so its not like I'm going bankrupt here.
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Nov 10, 2015 02:44
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sharkytm posted:My truck is 10 with filter... offset by the 3.8 for the Fit Army. 13-15 with filter. I use a 5 gallon bucket as a drain pan.
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Nov 10, 2015 03:00
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FatCow posted:13-15 with filter. I use a 5 gallon bucket as a drain pan. Yup. I've also done lots of changes on diesel boat engines. Thank god for the Cat hand-crank oil pumps. 64L (17 Gallons) of lube oil. Four 5-gallon pails. And yes, we put Rotella T in the 3406E, 6140AL2, and C18-ACERT. We bought it in 55G drums, then decanted into 5-gallon pails for transport. Fun fun.
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Nov 10, 2015 16:10
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I use Pennzoil Platinum pretty much exclusively unless it's sold out when I go to buy it. <$30 for a gallon at Walmart or Meijer and they've got a good range of weights. Always have heard good things about it when I researched it for a night on BITOG and haven't had much reason to change it out. It's meets the dexos spec of my car too  which seems like many don't (or haven't done the testing to get the little stamp). Filters in bulk from RockAuto. OEM or Wix or whatever I find that isn't Fram. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Nov 10, 2015 17:56
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FatCow posted:13-15 with filter. I use a 5 gallon bucket as a drain pan. What takes 13-15 quarts? drat son.
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Nov 10, 2015 18:11
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CornHolio posted:What takes 13-15 quarts? drat son. Most diesel trucks.
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Nov 10, 2015 18:17
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Sharky's the only one who has me beat so far, the 5 ton takes 22 quarts of Rotella 15W40. ... and 10 gallons of diff lube. Yeah, it gets the cheapest Coastal garbage I can get in 5 gallon pails. The spec actually says 3 gallons per differential but I only had about a quart left of 2 5-gallon pails when I was done filling them in a level parking lot. ... and 9 quarts of transmission oil. ... and 5.5 quarts of transfer case oil. gently caress, even the front winch (if I had one) takes 2.6 quarts of oil.
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Nov 10, 2015 18:32
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Ran Rotella in all my bikes (mix of 125-250 two strokes and 450 four stroke) and never had a single issue with abnormal wear. Now I just need to get that KX250 rebuilt that's sitting in my grandparents garage....
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Nov 10, 2015 18:54
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kastein posted:Sharky's the only one who has me beat so far, the 5 ton takes 22 quarts of Rotella 15W40. There's a huge jump between light-duty vehicles, including 1-ton trucks, and anything medium or heavy duty. Lube capacities and filter sizes just make huge leaps. Some of the bigger marine engines I've worked on (3508, 16V149, etc) take 100+ GALLONS of oil... 424 L (448 qt) for the 3508, for example (112 gallons).
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Nov 10, 2015 19:35
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Bajaha posted:Come to Canada. T6 is regularly $48 + tax for 5l jug. On sale it drops to $40. Definitely not the cheapest oil around, although if you get it on sale plus the $7 ish mail in rebate it's not bad. Full synth 5w-30 regularly drops down to $30 ish for a 5l jug, brand depending on week of sale. Is there a farm supply store there? UFA in alberta has it for $28/5L jug every once in a while. CornHolio posted:What takes 13-15 quarts? drat son. My 7.3 with the big filter takes 16 to get it to the full line. 3 5 liter jugs, and a little out of the 4th. The mack took 40 liters on the nose. I ran mobil 1 delvac because it came in 20 liter pails, where most other stuff was 18.9 liter. It also had 4 oil filters and 2 big fuel filters.
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Nov 10, 2015 21:16
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Whats the verdict on Redline Shockproof? The Viper's transmission gets bitchy when it's really hot, and I'm thinking it could use a better fluid than the standard Mopar ATF +4.
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Nov 10, 2015 21:21
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sharkytm posted:At least the 5-ton is a road vehicle. The boats don't count, see below why. Calling it a road vehicle is extremely generous, it hasn't moved since 2013, hasn't left the yard since 2012, and hasn't been driven more than a block from home since 2011 I really need to get that monstrous piece of poo poo fixed up and running again so I have no excuses to not register it.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:How wrong is it for me to just blindly follow Australia hype and use penrite 10w40 in my wrx? Old post but yeah I use this in my 180SX without any issues. At the moment Im running 10w50 because I was worried before a track day (and ended up killing my turbo anyway so w/e) I usually do 10w40 Penrite fully synthetic and then switch to the ten tenths racing 10w40 before a track day as it has higher zinc and also says racing on the jug. I just use regular Ryco filters. Das Volk posted:Whats the verdict on Redline Shockproof? The Viper's transmission gets bitchy when it's really hot, and I'm thinking it could use a better fluid than the standard Mopar ATF +4. gently caress this stuff. Depends on your gearbox, but in the Silvia world people were recommending this stuff a few years ago. It turns out that it is horrible for the SR20 (and likely other nissan) gearboxes as it corrodes the synchros. its also noisy as gently caress. I switched to Nulon gearbox oil with a tube of their PTFE additive and my gearbox feels significantly better. its also dead quiet. getting into first and reverse still needs to be double clutched sometimes but thats probably just old gearbox. Laserface fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Nov 11, 2015 01:36
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Das Volk posted:Whats the verdict on Redline Shockproof? The Viper's transmission gets bitchy when it's really hot, and I'm thinking it could use a better fluid than the standard Mopar ATF +4. Savington may pop in here, but a while ago on Miata Turbo he mentioned that the oil quality analysis of every Redline product he tried has been poo poo. And yeah, diesel truck. No idea why they take so much oil, but they do. There is also about 2L that sits in the valley of the motor that you can't drain.
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Nov 11, 2015 02:46
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kastein posted:Calling it a road vehicle is extremely generous, it hasn't moved since 2013, hasn't left the yard since 2012, and hasn't been driven more than a block from home since 2011 The boat went down the road once, in 2013:  We had 2x4's to fend off the phone/cable/power lines.
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Nov 11, 2015 02:52
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FatCow posted:Savington may pop in here, but a while ago on Miata Turbo he mentioned that the oil quality analysis of every Redline product he tried has been poo poo. That's interesting. MT90 is highly recommended for old BMW transmissions on the forums.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:27
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mafoose posted:That's interesting. MT90 is highly recommended for old BMW transmissions on the forums. I'm going off really vague memory taken from reading VWVortex here but it may be the specification. As I recall it was something like redline was GL-3 certified as well as GL-4 and you needed GL-3 stuff to stop the syncros from being eaten away. Whether that's true or not I couldn't tell you but I doubt it. I never really bothered hunting out GL-3 stuff myself because I always figured my syncros sucked because the scirocco's shift linkage was garbage and changing gears is like dragging a stick through a bag of rocks.
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I run redline MT90 in my Scirocco. I change it every 30k. I have swapped the same 4K into and out of multiple cars. The synchros are perfect. I float shift it ALL THE TIME. This trans easily has over 400k on it. Not sure if it's because MT90 is great, or changing it way to often or if I'm just nice to the transmission. I've been doing it this way for so long that I don't even remember why.
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