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Capri Sunrise
May 16, 2008

Elephants are mammals of the family Elephantidae and the largest existing land animals. Three species are currently recognised: the African bush elephant, the African forest elephant, and the Asian elephant.
As someone in the construction industry it's nice that my field's only mentions in the entire long form document are in relation to housing (and mostly condos there too) and first nations water access

But hey cannabis can get more attention than infrastructure why not

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EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity


(in North Bay)

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009


There's a reason.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

https://twitter.com/_SimonBlack/status/1108149592405745664?s=20

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Within the context of Alberta, have the Albertan NDP hosed up in any major way? I know the pipeline is bad, and people were mad about health and safety on family farms but setting that all aside I'm curious if there are particular issues where the government clearly hosed up something that would justify giving them the boot.

I realize that's not why they're losing in the polls either, I'm just trying to get a good sense of what the government's done since they first took power.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Sep 9, 2022

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Dreylad posted:

Within the context of Alberta, have the Albertan NDP hosed up in any major way? I know the pipeline is bad, and people were mad about health and safety on family farms but setting that all aside I'm curious if there are particular issues where the government clearly hosed up something that would justify giving them the boot.

I realize that's not why they're losing in the polls either, I'm just trying to get a good sense of what the government's done since they first took power.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/louis-arthur/what-has-the-notley-government-done-for-us-anyway/10160312736990082/

It's always been about the entire Alberta media landscape (save CBC... even then) pounding on everything she does, treating her like a god with infinite control when something fucks up and saying the exact opposite when good things happen.

They got elected with a vote split, with the U(in name only)CP it was always going to be an uphill battle.

Edit- Faithy Goldy continues to be a piece of poo poo

https://twitter.com/FaithGoldy/status/1108066787407605762

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




That farm safety bill was only "bad" in the sense that it forces farmers to have insurance for their workers and (apparently) kids can't be relied on for operating heavy machinery now.

I don't know how much of that last part is true, but I have family that farm and they thought it was good legislation so probably just the usual sensationalizing and demonizing of the "socialist government" stamping on are freedoms and poo poo :bahgawd:

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Other than not taking the opportunity to drown the oil patch in a bathtub, I think they’ve run a pretty good government

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

apatheticman posted:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/louis-arthur/what-has-the-notley-government-done-for-us-anyway/10160312736990082/

It's always been about the entire Alberta media landscape (save CBC... even then) pounding on everything she does, treating her like a god with infinite control when something fucks up and saying the exact opposite when good things happen.

They got elected with a vote split, with the U(in name only)CP it was always going to be an uphill battle.

Edit- Faithy Goldy continues to be a piece of poo poo

https://twitter.com/FaithGoldy/status/1108066787407605762

:barf:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Aces High posted:

That farm safety bill was only "bad" in the sense that it forces farmers to have insurance for their workers and (apparently) kids can't be relied on for operating heavy machinery now.

I don't know how much of that last part is true, but I have family that farm and they thought it was good legislation so probably just the usual sensationalizing and demonizing of the "socialist government" stamping on are freedoms and poo poo :bahgawd:

No, no, Hal_2005 reliably told us that it was the death of the Albertan family farm.

You're not suggesting they would just go on the internet and tell a lie, are you?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
York Region just can't get those Amber alerts put away

https://twitter.com/YRP/status/1108158095568470016

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
The last Amber Alert in Alberta was fine, my phone buzzed once for the initial alert, once for the update, and then when it was cancelled. I made a note of the plate and make/colour of the car in case I saw it. It was not an imposition on my life in any way.

Also I wish all of you would stop being so negative about anything. It's not healthy, and honestly it's infectious. I felt like poo poo all yesterday, and I posted some inappropriate things as a result, but after sleeping on it and going to work and having a good day, I feel much better. Whatever CM said and whatever CM did, it was a product of profound illness and it's neither useful nor healthy for me to get angry about it. I hope the guy is alright and somehow manages to get back on his rocker.

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Is it just me or do Sheer and Nunes look like they were cloned off the same single-cell Conservative?



I was going to find images of each of them, but somehow the google seach of just their names seems to have illustrated it well.
Spoilered to help minimize the exposure to raw bland.

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

I definitely only saw a page full of Sheers on first glance.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

ARACHTION posted:

I definitely only saw a page full of Sheers on first glance.

I just saw beige

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Sep 9, 2022

Weird BIAS
Jul 5, 2007

so... guess that's it, huh? just... don't say i didn't warn you.
So as of right now, Elections Alberta has a pretty small amount of candidates up on their website. None of the parties have 87 candidates up atm, the most a party has is the NDP with 54, next is the Alberta party at 52, Independents, which the majority/all? is literally the Alberta Independent Party, they can't even link to the right website for half of the candidates on the site, have 47 somehow ???? the UCP at 45, the Liberals at 12, and 1 Freedom Conservative party candidate.

Not to get hopeful in hell province but there are technically 3 conservative parties running with e:two of them at least fielding greater than 50% of candidates. However, the latest poll from Ipsos showed the following:

quote:

Vote: The United Conservative Party (UCP) starts the campaign with 17-point lead over the governing New Democrats. Currently, 52% of decided and leaning voters say they would be most likely to support or lean towards the UCP. The NDP are next at 35% support, followed by the Alberta Party (4%) and Alberta Liberals (3%). Other parties garner a combined 2%. These results exclude the 19% of Albertans who are undecided or express no preference.

I doubt many people even know about the Freedom Conservatives or Independence parties. Polling in this province is kind of loving dumb and unreliable plus FPTP but this isn't like the 3 horse race of 2015.

Weird BIAS fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Mar 20, 2019

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

THC posted:

Other than not taking the opportunity to drown the oil patch in a bathtub, I think they’ve run a pretty good government

Yeah it's this. I maintain they dropped the public interest ball by not hiking fossil fuel royalty rates, but I mostly understand why they chickened out.

They've been scandal free, delivered on the things they said they were going to, nothing overly radical even. It's textbook good government, but everybody hates them because they're leftists. Honestly I think most people in Calgary would happily support them if they took any time to be interested in politics, but they don't. People here still think the economy is in a recession.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
I hate them because they aren't leftists, if that helps you guys out

brucio
Nov 22, 2004
For the Kinsella haters..

https://twitter.com/SusanDelacourt/status/1108197619527045120?s=19

What's the angle here?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Watch Faith Goldy turn that little Maga poo poo into the public face of Doug Ford's freeze peach on campus campaign.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
lol @ the bitcoin begging in her bio now. I don't know how well being a neo-Nazi contrarian pays these days but if she's out seeking bitcoin donations it's probably not much.

It could just be my personal feed, but I feel like I'm noticing a real pushback against white supremacist shitheads these days. Anti-racist Canada, the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, the Yellow Vests Exposed people are all doing round the clock duty on pointing out what these troglodytes are happily saying and I'm also seeing more pushback against softy mainstream media outlets that aren't calling a Nazi a Nazi.

I don't know how hard the press gallery will push back against people like Scheer and Bernier, who have knowingly lied about things like the UN migration compact, or about how their parties curiously attract white supremacist candidates and supporters for some reason, but more and more people seem upset about it. Not sure how that'll translate come election time, of course, but it's a good sign so far.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Leofish posted:

lol @ the bitcoin begging in her bio now. I don't know how well being a neo-Nazi contrarian pays these days but if she's out seeking bitcoin donations it's probably not much.

It could just be my personal feed, but I feel like I'm noticing a real pushback against white supremacist shitheads these days. Anti-racist Canada, the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, the Yellow Vests Exposed people are all doing round the clock duty on pointing out what these troglodytes are happily saying and I'm also seeing more pushback against softy mainstream media outlets that aren't calling a Nazi a Nazi.

I don't know how hard the press gallery will push back against people like Scheer and Bernier, who have knowingly lied about things like the UN migration compact, or about how their parties curiously attract white supremacist candidates and supporters for some reason, but more and more people seem upset about it. Not sure how that'll translate come election time, of course, but it's a good sign so far.

It's not just you, that sentiment is definitely gaining momentum. In fact, it's so important that the liberal justice committee just (yesterday) voted to embark on a study of that exact thing because it is much more pressing that that silly snc lavalin fluff. Love these guys, their finger is really on the pulse of canadians like you and me.

https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1107987759640297473

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Postess with the Mostest posted:

It's not just you, that sentiment is definitely gaining momentum. In fact, it's so important that the liberal justice committee just (yesterday) voted to embark on a study of that exact thing because it is much more pressing that that silly snc lavalin fluff. Love these guys, their finger is really on the pulse of canadians like you and me.

https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1107987759640297473

Ugh, the cronyism surrounding everything going on with SNC is another matter entirely and people are equally fed up with that, I think. Clearly the Liberals are trying to brush it aside, and the total clownshow that the House became during the budget yesterday is a result of that, but let's not pretend that the issue of hatemongers gaining more mainstream acceptance isn't serious or real. We can and should throw the book at both the crooks at corrupt companies and at the loving Nazis.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

The government is big enough that it can and should be discussing both of these things at the same time.

The brains of the public, on the other hand, are not, and it's pretty foul how they're offering us one worthwhile discussion specifically-timed to distract us from the other.

Math You
Oct 27, 2010

So put your faith
in more than steel
Has there been any analysis on Scheer's chicken little act?
Everything is an 11 outta 10 on the outrage scale. "Omg what is Turdeau doing trying to negotiate with a total stud shark like Trump? He needs to roll over before he destroys the economy!"
"Omg the LIEberals gave up so much in the deal. ARE FARMERS! Spineless!"

I honestly just completely tune him out in a way that I never could Harper. I'm genuinely curious if his addiction to outrage turns off the general populace or if people are largely eating it up and we're destined to assimilate completely into American political culture

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Arivia posted:

Because HootSuite and SkipTheDishes are the future duh

I still don’t know what HootSuite actually is or does.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Entropic posted:

I still don’t know what HootSuite actually is or does.

Well, they're a startup you see, they uh, start... up, but with computers, you know. Very high tech. New media. Social. Cloud scale. Probably some AI deep learning blockchains in there.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Entropic posted:

I still don’t know what HootSuite actually is or does.

They're engineering a new paradigm as it relates to being local, mobile, and social to disrupt brand interaction.

Silver Spooner
Jun 10, 2013
Hey fun fact (that everybody in here probably already figured): Ontario doesn't have a spending problem, it has a revenue problem.

quote:

Key Points
- In 2017, the Ontario provincial government received $10,415 in total revenue per person[1], the lowest in the country.
- Despite the lowest total revenue per person, Ontario’s per capita tax revenue is above the average of other provinces, owing to a strong economic base.[2]
- However, offsetting Ontario’s relatively high tax revenues are lower revenues from other sources. Compared to other provinces, Ontario generates a relatively modest level of resource revenues and receives a relatively low amount of transfers from the federal government.

- Ontario’s low per capita revenue is matched by similarly low government spending relative to other provinces. In 2017, Ontario spent $9,829 per person on programs, also the lowest among provinces.
- Ontario’s per capita program spending is more than $2,000 below the rest of Canada average, a gap that has widened since 2011.
- In particular, Ontario spends $3,903 per person on health care, the lowest in Canada and $487 per person lower than the rest of Canada average.
- Ontario’s net operating deficit was $3.8 billion in 2017[3], down from a deficit of $5.3 billion in 2016. On a per capita basis, Ontario’s deficit was $271 per person in 2017, below the average of other provinces.
- However, Ontario program spending is projected to jump by nearly 5 per cent in 2018 while overall revenues are expected to decline.[4] As a result, Ontario’s deficit is expected to more than triple to $868 per person in 2018, based on the FAO’s projections.
- Despite a relatively low per capita deficit in 2017, Ontario had the second highest debt load per person in Canada, behind only Newfoundland and Labrador. Going forward, larger deficits would further deteriorate Ontario’s fiscal position relative to other provinces.

The Ontario government has announced its intention to balance the budget while committing to not raise taxes. Given that Ontario’s per capita program spending is already the lowest in Canada, opportunities to restrain or reduce spending further may be limited.

:thunk:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Real answer, they made a consolidated social media dashboard that the people who represent brands on social media use.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/beyak-senate-code-letters-1.5063878

Racist senator is officially racist.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Without even looking I knew it was frigging Beyak.


Silver Spooner posted:

Hey fun fact (that everybody in here probably already figured): Ontario doesn't have a spending problem, it has a revenue problem.


:thunk:

Wait, so the drug dealing yelly-man who said there was runaway spending on foofy social crap spoke before checking his facts?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Lol. What facts?

It's exactly the same poo poo his brother (and his successor) pulled in Toronto and it's exactly as true now as it was then.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Silver Spooner posted:

Hey fun fact (that everybody in here probably already figured): Ontario doesn't have a spending problem, it has a revenue problem.


:thunk:

This has been the case since the Harris government, all those fun charts and graphs that compare spending and revenue across provinces consistently have Ontario at or very close to the bottom of the pack.

The big problem narrative-wise is that Ontario is simultaneously the biggest province with the largest population and GDP, and the province with more or less the lowest levels of per-capita spending and revenue. This makes it really easy for opponents of "big government" to pull out huge numbers and say "look how big Ontarios debt/deficit/spending is! We need to cut cut cut" and the numbers are billions of dollars so people get scared without realizing that those billions of dollars are actually pretty small compared to Ontario's economic base, and on a per-capita level are significantly below comparable provinces.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

She was already officially racist. This is official certification that she is too racist for the senate.

It's disgusting that the Liberals are using "only we can fight hate" as a distraction. The scandal itself was, I thought, stupidly overblown. Whatever the merits of my views on that, the distraction they're using now is disgusting. An absolutely cynical attempt to save their own bacon at the expense of increased polarization of the country, turning hate crime into an "us versus them".
:vomarine:

The Conservatives are similarly guilty. The way the Liberals are handling people coming from safe third parties is pants on head stupid. The Conservatives could have said that, and gone with "This is pulling resources away from refugees who are in unsafe countries." Being totally true and a damning criticism of the Liberals wouldn't do the trick, though, because they're trying to scoop up anti-immigrant voters.

Jagmeet is prejudiced against close talkers.

Come on Elizabeth May. Drop the opposition to wifi and save the country.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Ah yes, Elizabeth "I'll send a letter to the Queen" May, noted knower of protocol and good governance.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Everyone has the right to speak including the chemtrails guy.

Or, you know, no.

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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

infernal machines posted:

I'm pretty sure there's still only the one level of alert implemented here.

And in Ontario at least, to my knowledge it hasn't yet been used for anything other than amber alerts.

I have Amber Alerts in my phone log from before the "you're going to loving die" system was rolled out though

edit: they show up in the same category as the new nuclear alerts do, but are dated before the rollout of the new system and didn't make my phone sound like armageddon

BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Mar 20, 2019

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