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jm20 posted:Prior to outright repealing C-51, which should happen, there should be made a report that outlines the number of events prevented, and whether or not the information gathered under c-51 as being the root cause for that preventative action. Blackout the events all you want, I want to see concrete examples and numbers made public as to the efficacy of the blanket charter abuse to date. I know you're not this naive but drat is it ever cute when people think partisan politicians actually give a poo poo what policy analysts say.
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Poizen Jam posted:I know you're not this naive but drat is it ever cute when people think partisan politicians actually give a poo poo what policy analysts say. I have a dream where politicians are actually out to empower the citizens that elect them.
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The cf and the mounties are literally the most beta low t hairdressers afforded the privilege of carrying guns in the g7
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Toronto is leaking on the rest of the province again. http://business.financialpost.com/p...nd-transfer-tax quote:The province is set to give all municipalities the right to double the amount of land transfer tax you'll pay on your next real estate deal.
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Cultural Imperial posted:The cf and the mounties are literally the most beta low t hairdressers afforded the privilege of carrying guns in the g7 What about Canada Border Services
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The Land Transfer Tax is a good policy. Even if it wasn't, you yokels forced Harris on us twice and wrecked our beautiful Metro government with MegaCity, so now you get to enjoy the political equivalent of having a warm bucket of piss slowly dumped over your head by a government that actively disdains you.
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Taxs cars and houses more, and even better, tax cars being used as houses or houses that can be towed by cars doubly. Don't even get me started on boats, airplanes, dirigibles, submersibles and spacecraft.
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Helsing posted:The Land Transfer Tax is a good policy. Well excuuuse us for believing a school teacher could do a good job. Joke's on you though, rural people move into a place and never leave. It's city people who move into a 700 sq ft condo and then realize they can't raise a kid there so they buy a townhouse and then the house is too small and crime too high and he gets a promotion so they move again out to the suburbs. I think municipal land transfer tax is dumb because they already have municipal property tax. If they need more, just raise that and tax everybody, why the extra tax on people who are moving? People generally don't move houses just for fun, it isn't a consumption tax. You also raise the barrier to new homebuyers aka potential property tax payers. And it's an extra tax on seniors downgrading and makes them more likely to stay in their home forever so you plebes never get to buy them and are forced to rent or live in the suburbs oh now I like this tax.
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I could live with a land transfer tax that lowers with consecutive years of ownership and scales with number of properties owned by the seller and/or sold by them in recent years but seriously gently caress house flippers. Oh, like the worthless realtor who recommended herself to an elderly neighbour, then bought the house herself at a neat discount from the market rate as a favour  .e2: oh god the argument about lost revenues from subsequent renovation spending, it's too much. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Ikantski posted:Well excuuuse us for believing a school teacher could do a good job. Joke's on you though, rural people move into a place and never leave. It's city people who move into a 700 sq ft condo and then realize they can't raise a kid there so they buy a townhouse and then the house is too small and crime too high and he gets a promotion so they move again out to the suburbs. Anything that actively depresses house flippers and real estate speculating is good policy imo.
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I don't know much about flipping, other than that my... I guess uncle-in-law, if that's even a thing, does it for a living. Is it contributing to unreasonable property values/gentrification/the housing bubble in some way? I didn't think it was common enough to be a Thing.
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jfood posted:Protectorate of Kwan: poo poo representation, but now my riding is 100% ghost free! Speaking of the Protectorate of Kwan, the Liberals had their best showing since 2000 in Van East. code:The Liberals have never really tried in this riding, usually going with no name candidates that barely campaign. It'd be interesting to see what the results of this riding would have been had the Liberals put forward a star candidate. I wonder if they will next time. Femtosecond fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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quote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-forces-ombudsman-to-review-canadian-rangers-program-1.3289755?cmp=rss The program Harper wanted to significantly expand.
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jm20 posted:Anything that actively depresses house flippers and real estate speculating is good policy imo. Has it done that in any meaningful way in Toronto?
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Look at this guy thinking mt pleasant is full of ~silicon valley types~
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That makes me sad because Canadian Rangers are hard as gently caress and very cool and UNBELIEVABLY good shots with those Lee-Enfields like holy gently caress
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jm20 posted:The program Harper wanted to significantly expand. Yea but what about 600k for stealth snowmobiles?
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jm20 posted:The program Harper wanted to significantly expand. "It produces dead natives AND lowers veterans affairs spending? Fund this." -A former prime minister of Canada
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Angry Diplomat posted:I don't know much about flipping, other than that my... I guess uncle-in-law, if that's even a thing, does it for a living. Is it contributing to unreasonable property values/gentrification/the housing bubble in some way? I didn't think it was common enough to be a Thing. I think that it is a common enough dream among house owners that it might be loving up the markets to some degree. I've had many conversations with people who get misty-eyed talking about how this guy they know makes bank fixing up old houses, and how they would love to get into that sort of business as soon as they get their house all good and ready for the market in hopes of finally getting some startup capital.
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Ikantski posted:Has it done that in any meaningful way in Toronto? If nothing else it's brought forth endless wailing and teeth gnashing from real estate agents, and that's good enough for me. Plus if you take their word for it, it's massively depressing the market, so either they're lying and it's fine, or it's keeping speculation and flipping down. If the township of East-Bumblefuck can use the minor extra revenue to keep the main road in drive-able condition, or keep the library stocked and open an extra hour, then it's still a net good. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Block-chain fascist
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I'm not a crypto-fascist: look at all these progressive things I overtly support.
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Melian Dialogue posted:What's a crypto-fascist exactly? Do I always ensure to use PGP when I send out my fascist newsletter? Is that it? Pretty weird of a fascist to have routinely voted NDP in the last three elections, and been a donations paying member for multiple years and volunteered for an election campaign for the same party. You can espouse fascist views, support fascist legislation and actions of those in authority, and still donate to the NDP. The fact that you do those things might trigger some sort of cognitive dissonance, but it's not in itself impossible to do.
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Femtosecond posted:The Liberals have never really tried in this riding, usually going with no name candidates that barely campaign. It'd be interesting to see what the results of this riding would have been had the Liberals put forward a star candidate. I wonder if they will next time. Eventhough he was just a name for the ballot, Ed Wong did actually get out there and campaign. He'd be out on Commerical a couple of times a week, shaking hands and talking to folks. Not sure how much money was put behind him, but he made an effort and I think that counted a great deal. I think it's a competitive seat, or can be when the incumbent retires anyway. Kwan does hit the identity politics trifecta though, so she's gonna be pretty hard to dislodge after this. Cultural Imperial posted:Look at this guy thinking mt pleasant is full of ~silicon valley types~ Shitheads calling themselves 'engineers' drinking $12 beers out of a jam jar, counting down the days 'til their jobs are outsourced to India is the 'Silicon Valley type'.
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jfood posted:Shitheads calling themselves 'engineers' drinking $12 beers out of a jam jar, counting down the days 'til their jobs are outsourced to India is the 'Silicon Valley type'. Yeah, that's Liberty Village/New Parkdale, not Mt. Pleasant
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infernal machines posted:Liberty Village/New Parkdale I have no loving clue what these words mean and I've lived here all my life. Why can't you speak like a normal person?
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Wong benefited from the Liberals' nationwide surge. It still wasn't even close, Van East is the safest NDP seat by far.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:54
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Cultural Imperial posted:Look at this guy thinking mt pleasant is full of ~silicon valley types~ Who's living in all the new apartments along Main/Scotia north of Broadway?
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Melian Dialogue posted:I still don't know what a crypto fascist is and how its different from a plain jane, white bread fascist. Wikipedia posted:Crypto-fascism is a pejorative term for the secret support for, or admiration of, fascism. The common usage is "crypto-fascist", one who practices this support. The term is used to imply that an individual or group keeps this support or admiration hidden to avoid political persecution or political suicide.
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Melian Dialogue posted:Its very easy to hand wave people aside by just calling them fascists when they disagree with you, just like those on the right who just handwave aside the "communists" on the left. This is true, it's also easy to actually believe someone is a fascist when they support the absolute authority of the state, and repeatedly argue and defend that any form of dissent not state sanctioned can (and evidently should) be met with violence. Likewise if they argue that the charter-rights of Canadians can be invalidated, with nothing more than a toothless periodic review, if the security apparatus feels they have a reason to do so. I mean we can go back to the pipeline protests and the actions of the RCMP, or the G20 and the actions of the police forces there, revisit the wheel'o'force and argue about why they're justified for cracking skulls over anything more than a strongly worded letter to the editor, but we've done that to death in previous threads. It might be easier if you just accept that you've got a bit of a chubby for authority, or at the very least that the positions you take and the justifications you make for them could lead people to that conclusion. Edit: Admittedly this may just be a failure of vocabulary on my part, if you have someone who regularly argues, and presumably believes that the authority of the state is paramount over all other concerns, what would you call that? Melian Dialogue posted:It still makes me shudder that we have, with prob 90% certainty, have seen eachother on the street in real life since I live so close to him. Is this where we learn that CI is actually your Tyler Durdenesque alter-ego? infernal machines fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Normy posted:Who's living in all the new apartments along Main/Scotia north of Broadway? Dumb people. In other words yoga instructors, baristas, marketers~, hootsuite employees
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Nuance is nothing Ideology is everything Obey your ideology Canpol
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The only good use of the words 'crypto-fascist' was in that one episode of Red Dwarf. Everyone else saying it comes across as a giant fuckstick cuz they're not Lister.
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MA-Horus posted:That makes me sad because Canadian Rangers are hard as gently caress and very cool and UNBELIEVABLY good shots with those Lee-Enfields like holy gently caress Dear gods this. Growing up, a friend of the family who was a retired Canadian Ranger helped teach me how to shoot, plus letting me shoot his Lee-Enfield(my first time ever firing a centerfire rifle). Dude had loving laser-like accuracy with the bloody thing until cancer got him. Giving them nice new rifles, instead of 70 year old rifles based on a century+ year old design? That's a pretty positive thing. Then again, doing anything to help our desperately hosed military is probably a good thing at this point.
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jfood posted:The only good use of the words 'crypto-fascist' was in that one episode of Red Dwarf. Everyone else saying it comes across as a giant fuckstick cuz they're not Lister. Kryten is a model Canadian, a superficially polite and servile exterior masks incredible rage and pettiness.
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‘I spent two weeks being called a baby-killer’: Chris Alexander QQs about the campaign that cost him his job (w/ video) “We’re still the party that sees reality as it is, doesn’t want to go on some hippy-trippy jaunt down memory lane and put marijuana in the windows of every store,” he said in an interview Tuesday on Ottawa’s Sparks Street. “We’re trying to deal with the real issues that Canadians are facing. And we’ll continue to do that.” The Liberals have promised to legalize and regulate pot but haven’t actually said it would be in the windows of every store. And Alexander takes issue with the way his opponents characterized the Tories’ stance on immigrants and refugees, especially in the wake of a photo of three-year-old Syrian boy Alan Kurdi lifeless on a Turkish beach, which focused the world’s attention on a refugee crisis many feel Canada and other countries have failed to act on with urgency. This scrutiny only increased when Kurdi’s Canadian aunt said she’d tried to get members of his family to Canada only to have them refused. “I spent two weeks being called a baby-killer by other MPs and by people in the media. That was not pleasant.” The Liberals and NDP took citizenship, immigration and refugee issues for “pretty unpleasant purposes,” Alexander charged. “That’s the story that people insist on telling, that we are cold-hearted Conservatives, that we’ve never done the right thing. And it’s wrong,” said Alexander. “We started bringing Syrian refugees to Canada on a large scale in January,” he said. “But nobody covered it. Somehow it became divisive that we hadn’t brought them all, by the middle of the campaign.” Canada has resettled 2,500 Syrian refugees since 2013. Global News and other media organizations have been covering the issue extensively over the past two years. Alexander predicts Liberal leader Justin Trudeau will have trouble following through on his promise to bring 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by the end of the year. “Nothing’s impossible, but cost, safety, the operational standards for which Canada is renowned, are all issues,” he said. “We have the best record in the world for refugee resettlement because we do it well. We meet certain standards. We check out who people are. We make sure human smugglers aren’t involved. We make sure identity theft isn’t involved. We make sure people are who they say they are. We make sure criminals don’t benefit from Canada’s generous refugee policies. When you start moving large numbers of people in short periods of time, all of that can be compromised.” As Global News has reported, Canada doesn’t have the best record in the world on refugees, although we have taken in more than the United States. Advocates have argued there’s no reason Canada couldn’t bring in more people while maintaining security standards. Alexander also takes issue with the campaign’s focus on new laws that gave him the authority to unilaterally strip dual citizens of their Canadian citizenship if they were found guilty of terrorism. The Conservatives were accused of making it an election issue when they announced during the campaign their intention to strip the citizenship of people arrested on terror charges almost a decade ago. Justin Trudeau kept the issue in the headlines, repeating “a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian” in his speeches and saying that the Conservative change was creating two classes of citizens – something that Alexander believes was a mischaracterization. “Suddenly we ended up in a campaign talking about second-class citizens? That concept does not exist in Canadian law. It should not exist in public debate. We did not introduce it to the debate. When it was introduced by the party that’s now won the election, we didn’t counter it enough,” he said. “We don’t have room in this country for poison like that  and people deserve in an election to know what the law actually says, the protections they enjoy in this country, what opportunities they enjoy in this country compared to virtually every country in the world. But that failed to be communicated.”
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