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jfood posted:The only good use of the words 'crypto-fascist' was in that one episode of Red Dwarf. Everyone else saying it comes across as a giant fuckstick cuz they're not Lister. Kryten is a model Canadian, a superficially polite and servile exterior masks incredible rage and pettiness.
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Ikantski posted:Haha yeah let me do a minimum of 10 years of tough post secondary so I can make 125k a year working my rear end off because apparently I'm retarded. Honestly I though this was the new normal? Who gets a good job these days with just an undergrad? I'm pretty sure you'd find plenty of applicants in this scenario.
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Alberta in the year 2016: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mps-balancing-motherhood-inspire-workplace-changes-in-legislatures/article28448787/ The Globe and Mail posted:As the rules stand now, Ms. McLean could be penalized for having a child – her pay could be docked if she misses more than 10 sitting days. I wonder why the provincial legislature that was dominated by PCs for 40 years doesn't have maternity leave? Probably just an oversight.
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Do it ironically posted:I don't like politicians and she also gets a large salary compared to the people she supposedly represents, but like all politicians they only represent themselves and what is the best course to stay elected So what? Give the male politicians a pay-cut then, don't punish women for daring to have a kid.
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the trump tutelage posted:Car Chat: I drove a Honda Fit from Toronto to St. John's and back. My only complaint was poor acceleration for passing on hills, and road noise. The Honda fit has the best external visibility of any compact/sedan I've driven recently. This is helpful when driving on the QEW where tailgating is standard.
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Wikipedia posted:In 2000, Ford married Renata Brejniak, whom he had met in high school.[2] Ford, Renata, their daughter Stephanie, and their son Doug, resided in Etobicoke.[18][19] In 2008, after a 911 call from the Ford home, Ford was charged with assault and threatening to kill his wife. The Crown attorney said "there was no reasonable prospect of conviction" because there were "credibility issues" with allegations by Ford's wife due to inconsistencies in her statements. Ford said that he was glad the ordeal was over and that he and his wife have sought marital counselling.[20] In two separate incidents, on 25 October 2011, and again on 25 December 2011, police were called to Ford's home to investigate domestic disputes. During the Christmas Day incident, Ford's mother-in-law called 911 between 4 and 5am local time as she was concerned that Ford had been drinking and was going to take his children to Florida against his wife's wishes. No charges were laid in either incident.[21] Further domestic incident calls to police occurred in 2012 and on August 27, 2013. Again, no charges were laid.[22] From a glass half-full perspective, Rob Ford's cancer diagnosis in 2014 was time correlated with a significant decrease in the number of domestic violence incidents at his home.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:33
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Helsing posted:For that matter, the Canadian government doesn't actually pay for services with tax revenue or user fees, it just pretends that this is the case as part of an elaborate and fanciful make-believe game that's supposed to restrain us from printing too much money and undermining price stability. Modern monetary theory detected! Why do you want to kill the economy with inflation? *Ignores the currency losing ~25% of it's value because some Saudi princes got bored.*
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MA-Horus posted:So the general consensus is, not guilty of rape, but still a piece of poo poo? Guilty not proven.
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Do it ironically posted:yes I'm sure the residents of fort mac will be able to convvince China and the US to significantly cut down their fossil fuel emissions, they've been enlightened Canadians are uniquely bad compared to other western nations in terms of connecting knowledge of climate change's effects to concern over the issue (granted the confidence intervals are large): http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate2997.html It might be exactly your kind of half-assed rationalizations and Canada's relatively small size that let Canadians feel ok about ignoring climate change despite some of the highest per-capita emissions in the world.
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May 4, 2016 20:08
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Booourns posted:It's OK the RCMP is investigating it's own horrible conduct My favorite part is the selective deafness of the transcriber whenever the kid asks for his lawyer. To be fair to the RCMP as a whole, I can't imagine the London branch is staffed by the best and brightest.
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May 10, 2016 19:06
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Also Mr. Ghomeshi avoids a second trial: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/jian-ghomeshi-expected-to-sign-peace-bond-avoid-second-trial/article29949693/ quote:Jian Ghomeshi is expected to sign a peace bond on Wednesday that could preclude him going to trial a second time for sexual assault, The Globe and Mail has learned. It's amazing what a good lawyer can do, I thought for sure he was going to jail when all those women came forward with similar accounts of sexual assault. Incompetent crown prosecutors didn't hurt.
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May 10, 2016 20:14
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Aliquid posted:there is no ethical canadian under capitalism This whole discussion reminds me of Canada's recent history with the domestic asbestos industry. In defiance of science and common sense Canada never banned asbestos domestically or to export, all to protect a paltry number of jobs at an unprofitable mine that went out of business in 2012 only because the government finally stopped bailing it out. There's no lower limit on the amount of money or jobs for which Canadian governments will ethically compromise to protect. This Saudi arms deal where there's potentially hundreds of jobs on the line must be such a no-brainer for Dion and everyone else involved, like of course they'll approve it. edit: The same principle is why it's so clear that Canadians will only ever pay lip-service to doing something about climate change until the rest of the world forces us to do something. Canadians will pay actual money to support actual asbestos mines, there's no way even marginally profitable oilsands production will ever stop. Nocturtle fucked around with this message at 20:48 on May 20, 2016 |
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ZShakespeare posted:Instead of burning oil, we should burn saskatchewan Given the state of the Canadian boreal forest, just wait a few years.
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May 20, 2016 20:52
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flakeloaf posted:Nope. US elections are weird. After Citizen's United US citizens/corporations can dump an essentially infinite amount of money into any given race, but god help you if you're a non-American buying a Trump hat.
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EvilJoven posted:Rob Ford was a shithead and now he's dead stop caring about Rob Ford. Rob Ford was a symptom of amalgamation. As long as degenerate suburbanites can vote there will always be another Rob Ford. 
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Aug 11, 2016 16:50
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Frosted Flake posted:Can they bring back Metro Toronto? Nope, that's gone forever. Mike Harris won and he won completely. Let that wash over you NDP-loving downtown dwellers.
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The Liberal carbon tax plan actually looks pretty good. A carbon tax is exactly what Canada needs to stop being literally one of the worst polluters (per capita) in the world. Am I being tricked somehow?
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Guy DeBorgore posted:You've pretty much got it right. Cap and trade can work just as well as a carbon tax but it's a bit more complicated and less flexible. You have to create whole new market from the top-down out of thin air, and it needs to settle around the proper equilibrium (restricting the supply of credits just tight enough to stop climate change without choking the economy) or else it'll collapse. On top of all that it's harder to align cap-and-trade policies across borders. A problem with cap and trade is the implicit assumption that there's a "safe" level of carbon emissions. Maybe people could believe that 20 years ago, but now it's clear we should have been carbon neutral yesterday. An onerous carbon tax is more appropriate, and easier to implement + demand other nations implement. I'm still not clear why Trudeau's Liberals are pushing it. Do the proceeds go to campaign donors? Are they trying to kick the NDP while they're down by playing progressive on climate change? RE: pipelines I think people might be a little too hard on Trudeau: quote:Alberta’s premier, Rachel Notley, said her oil-rich province will not support Ottawa’s climate change plan unless the federal government makes progress on new oil pipelines to Canada’s coasts. Trudeau’s government is expected to decide the fate of at least one major pipeline to the Pacific coast by the end of the year. Alberta already plans to implement a carbon tax but objects to the higher costs of Trudeau’s plans in later years. In an ideal world the Albertan oil industry would be shut down and Fort McMurray left to the flames. They're on the wrong side of history.
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The Premiers are mad at Trudeau!quote:Key provincial premiers dug in their heels over the Liberal government’s carbon-pricing plan on Tuesday as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau began seeking support among other provinces for his approach to fighting climate change. They have a point, people who need to drive everywhere should be free to do so without worrying about externalities. Am I wrong in thinking the carbon plan announcement was a good political move? Trudeau gets to look progressive on climate change, while the proposed minimum targets are too low to provoke popular resentment. Even the premiers benefit, they can complain about Ottawa and don't have to deal with a politically tricky issue like climate change. Most of the major provinces were already adopting carbon pricing anyway (not Alberta haha). The most serious complaint is that the minimum proposed prices are actually very low, but the efforts to mitigate climate change have been so anemic to date that anything is better than the status quo.
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Oct 5, 2016 15:10
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The Liberal party establishment pushed Trudeau as leader in lieu of reforms following their crushing loss in 2011. It was a cynical move that assumed enough Canadians would be won over by an attractive young leader instead of the party revising their platform or dealing with corruption. The results prove a low opinion of Canadian voters is a good working assumption.
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Helsing posted:Most Canadian elections are a big game of musical chairs where you hope that One point in favor of the Canadian system is that the electorate does occasionally severely punish a political party, however capricious or shallow the reasoning. Compare the US "Republican Revolution" of 1994 (where Congressional Republicans increased by 30%), with the Canadian federal elections of 1984, 1993 or 2011 (where multiple parties saw >100% gains or >50% losses in seats, also the PCs self-destructed and Ignatieff's Liberal faction followed). In principle the threat of massive electoral losses encourages more responsive and less corrupt politicians, musical chairs notwithstanding. Like many cases where Canada compares favorably with the US the cause isn't any kind of cultural superiority but a few specific institutions Canadians are lucky to have. In particular the non-partisan electoral redistricting commission and a parliamentary system that allows a semi-stable 3 party configuration cuts prevents a lot of the stagnancy seen in the US house. The Republicans will likely keep the house even after nominating a wannabe Mussolini, which really says it all. I can't get too upset that Canadians voted for Trudeau's beautiful face even if they were generally doing it to spite Harper.
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Helsing posted:
A few thoughts on the mincome discussion: -It's true the Liberals will never implement a mincome that will lead to significant redistribution of wealth between classes. But at this point the socialist movement has been so thoroughly beaten that mincome might be the best we can do. -modern capitalism destroyed organized labour, I think it's more likely than not it can handle the Trumpists and disorganized poor. I realize this is a very 1930s Weimaresque point, but modern western societies have gotten very good at papering over their flaws (look how the Eurozone continues to limp along, or Bank of America somehow still solvent post-2008). -Canada's old age security is basically mincome for the elderly, and it's plausible that it has contributed to the significant reduction in elderly poverty since the late 70s (note ~5% elderly poverty rate in Canada vs ~20% in the US). It's fine to point out that OAS isn't enough and isn't challenging the existing social order, but it measurably reduced suffering and should be supported. A basic mincome (even an inadequate one) sets the stage for future discussions on why it can't be significantly increased, although that's speculation. Lobok posted:Mincome also has to make financial sense. Unemployed persons right now total 1,363,000. If we give those people $30,000 a year that's $41 billion right there. Now that's very quick and dirty back-of-the-napkin math but any basic income or mincome program is going to come with a hefty price tag. And it's not a simple switch out with EI because EI payments are relative to what you were earning so getting rid of EI to pay for mincome would hurt people who would end up with less on mincome than they would with EI. Society pays for the unemployed one way or another. Providing explicit support likely reduces the overall cost.
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Posting from NY. I've thought a lot about it and Trudeau isn't so bad you guys.
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I've been ignoring Canadian politics since moving to the US, but it's amazing to check in and see that the federal Conservatives might very well take power in the next election. As if the decade under Harper wasn't enough to banish them for a generation. I dislike the Liberals but at least they implemented a carbon tax and it would be a shame if that were repealed.cowofwar posted:Those 30% of people don’t even know what climate change is. My perspective has gotten warped living amongst reactionaries, I read that same poll and thought that's pretty great. Only 30%! Also for reference in one of the interviews as part of the interminable US visa process the questioner asked about my prior NDP party membership, and specifically wanted to know if they were Communists or sponsored terrorism. I said no, but I did wonder whether I was about to be outed as a secret socialist.
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Smokers are petty selfish vandals and I hope widespread marijuana adoption leads to a backlash against any form of smoking in public, including tobacco. Ruin your own air.
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I appreciate vapers are pumping out marginally less carcinogenic compounds, but city air is bad enough and their contribution is not welcome. Plus the idea is to make a marijuana public smoking ban cast as wide a net as possible to cover anything that might even plausibly allow the inhalation of THC, so as to effectively make all forms of smoking in public illegal. People can get a nicotine patch if they're desperate. Related I really enjoyed the smoker's whining in this article about a tobacco ban in a Montreal suburb: CBC posted:Since smoking in public places is allowed in Canada, Bonnie Feigenbaum, a former town councillor, questioned if the restriction is just.
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EvilJoven posted:Ima LOL if by the time pot is legalized, the federal provincial and municipal laws all culminate in only being allowed to buy it from and use it in facilities that are owned by the ruling class, at extremely high prices. And yes I'd be happy if people who absolutely need to smoke are forced to do so in Beer Store-like facilities that mercilessly price gouge. I'd absolutely vote for that.
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Reince Penis posted:If there's one thing I've learned, it's always trust media polls. Oh my god you learned exactly the wrong lessons from the 2016 election.
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DariusLikewise posted:You're not dumb, just need more info. Also I know a lot of other people covered these points To add to this analysis, Alberta had it's chance to extract wealth from the tar sands and that time has now passed. If and when enough of the world gets even slightly serious about climate change and starts pricing carbon the oil sands will become completely obsolete. Producers with much higher quality oil will be racing to unload as much of their product into the shrinking market, and any additional investment (like pipelines, refiniries) into the Alberta oil industry is/will be futile. The fact that Alberta completely squandered it's oil wealth while being run by responsible conservatives is hilarious. The comparison with Norway's sovereign wealth fund is especially embarrassing, the last time I checked those irresponsible Nordic socialists had a savings rate roughly ten times higher than Albertans.
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If I were in charge of Canada I'd promise to totally help build pipeline in the vague future and hope the carbon tax kills off the oil sands in the interim.
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EvilJoven posted:I don't know about you guys but there really isn't anything in my life I'm not willing to sacrifice in order to keep our society from failing and our environment from collapsing but unless there's a paradigm shift I'm not about to spend the rest of my life beating my head against that particular wall without even making a dent, so the people who are at the helm of this failboat need to make some sort of a commitment first, otherwise I'm just going to sit back, ride bikes, apparently earn a meager living installing lawn sprinkler systems, and when the revolution comes I probably won't even bother participating, but I'll come watch it all burn. I think there's no progress on climate change etc until a significant fraction of the >60yo cohort die off. This isn't an inter-generational warfare thing, there just seems to be a large fraction of elderly people who support conservative policies and are unlikely to change at this point. It's not even a foolish thing to do, it's absolutely in their interests to oppose public spending towards things like decarbonization from which they won't benefit.
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Femtosecond posted:My point is that without a national carbon tax we're resetting to the status quo. I don't see how the country meets its Paris goals without new tools and I don't see how we politically make any movement forward on the environmental file. I think your proposal to tie a carbon tax with pipeline investment might not have been totally crazy 30 years ago, but that time has passed. You cannot in good faith invest in fossil-fuel infrastructure in 2018 while pretending to care about climate change (CCS tech is a tenuously possible exception). vyelkin posted:Stuff Also want to say thank you for this, it's well stated.
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EvilJoven posted:Oh my loving god how the gently caress are some of you trying to justify giving non citizens voting rights? People who live, work and pay taxes in a community should get a say in how it's run.
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Apr 19, 2018 13:35
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ChairMaster posted:Except that prisoners don't have bribe money and rich foreign white collar criminals do...? The city's politicians have been working directly for the rich for a long rear end time already, how is giving a vote to even more rich people who use the city as a place to launder money and take advantage of stupid greedy Canadians going to do anything but make it worse? If they're actual residents the deserve to vote on issues that impact their community. I'm sorry Vancouver is filled with so many garbage people and property owners.
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An oil refinery in Wisconsin blew up:CBC posted:Fire reignites at Husky Energy oil refinery in Wisconsin after being put out Coincidentally: Calgary Herald posted:Slower growth ahead for key oilsands producers as logjams hit output Maybe those pipelines aren't needed anymore, political crisis averted.
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Helsing posted:Eikos stuff This is interesting to compare with current US politics, where the most relevant factor for Trump's support (as a bellwether for conservative populism) is racial resentment. Ascribing Trump's success to "economic anxiety" risks obscuring the explicitly racist dimension of his support. On the other hand it's hard to look at that breakdown of PC support in Ontario by education/income level (and associated survey) and see it as originating from anything but an economically decaying (non-urban) middle class. Nocturtle fucked around with this message at 14:04 on May 1, 2018 |
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infernal machines posted:There is a serious disconnect between our reality and the one some of these folk seem to inhabit. They are, nevertheless, very sure of themselves. I'm struggling to articulate the problem with modern conservatism in the west. Being disconnected from reality is nothing necessarily new, as politics has always involved manufacturing a convenient worldview that may or may not be factual. It's more that modern conservative ideals and rhetoric aren't even particularly good lies, but their adherents believe them all the same. Doug Ford not releasing a costed platform, Donald Trump's constant lies and the pie-in-the-sky promises of Brexiteers all share a common disinterest in appearing even superficially plausible. Trump supporters would lie about the relative sizes of Trump's vs Obama's inauguration, and it doesn't matter if it's obviously provably wrong.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Probably because people are poo poo awful at managing their own lives (see: half the posters in this thread) and some needs to do it for them. Anecdotal but I probably would drink (a lot) more had I grown up in the US with widespread availability of alcohol in every supermarket + convenience store at a significantly lower price than Ontario. So yes, I probably personally benefited from the govt putting the brakes on a potentially harmful habit. We should dispense with the liberal notion that people are fully informed and rational actors and acknowledge the reality that we're easily manipulated apes who would benefit from a LOT more oversight.
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DynamicSloth posted:Government policy should be trying to move people onto weed as the intoxicant of choice with much fewer negative externalities. I think it could work as long as they develop a good means of prohibiting driving while high. To push back on this, drunks and heroine users don't bother anyone else until they do something anti-social while intoxicated. Smokers are uniquely selfish in that they necessarily make the air around them worse for everyone else while maintaining their pathetic addiction. I have much less of a problem with the drunk quietly sleeping on a park bench than the person who think it's totally fine to smoke in public places. edit: I guess I'm saying I have no problem with the govt encouraging consumables.
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DynamicSloth posted:Two things 1) yes yay edibles, they may ultimately be the best (for society) intoxicant availible. I agree with all this! Oxyclean posted:So best case scenario drunk vs. worst case scenario smoker? Someone smoking in a park away from a path or anywhere people need to be doesn't seem any more disruptive then a drunk sleeping on a bench. If smokers had the self-discipline to ensure their selfish habit didn't affect anyone else they probably wouldn't be addicts in the first place. While I agree the smoker in your scenario isn't harming anyone it doesn't reflect how smokers generally behave in reality, which is public smoking needs to be banned just like leaded gasoline. And on reflection I have exactly zero problem with the drunk sleeping on the park bench, that's what they're for.
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