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Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

I just had a terrible thought.

Jason Kenney is widely expected to become the next Conservative leader.

There's a distinct, non-zero probability that we could go from Prime Minister Justin to Prime Minister Jason.

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Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Baudin posted:

Because only people who live in central parts of cities are real citizens :ironicat:

Unironically agree w/ this

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Gay people who contribute to oppressive political movements should be criticized imo.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Jordan7hm posted:

everyone who doesn't agree with me should be criticized imo
The problem with conservatives goes beyond mere disagreement.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

flakeloaf posted:

Still nobody's business how our leaders gently caress. Having a sexuality doesn't make you a mascot.
It's our business what their politics are and the impact that their policies have, and in that sense Baird is a huge shithead

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Oct 27, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

If it werent for the acceptance of gay people, won by decades of struggle, Baird would probably have never risen almost to the top of our government. He'd be a nobody. And what did he do? He went to bat for a racist party that shits on poor people and refugees, and claims that trans people are predators.

But okay, sure, all these criticisms are a violation of his privacy.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 27, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Wong benefited from the Liberals' nationwide surge. It still wasn't even close, Van East is the safest NDP seat by far.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

‘I spent two weeks being called a baby-killer’: Chris Alexander QQs about the campaign that cost him his job (w/ video)

“We’re still the party that sees reality as it is, doesn’t want to go on some hippy-trippy jaunt down memory lane and put marijuana in the windows of every store,” he said in an interview Tuesday on Ottawa’s Sparks Street.

“We’re trying to deal with the real issues that Canadians are facing. And we’ll continue to do that.”

The Liberals have promised to legalize and regulate pot but haven’t actually said it would be in the windows of every store.

And Alexander takes issue with the way his opponents characterized the Tories’ stance on immigrants and refugees, especially in the wake of a photo of three-year-old Syrian boy Alan Kurdi lifeless on a Turkish beach, which focused the world’s attention on a refugee crisis many feel Canada and other countries have failed to act on with urgency.

This scrutiny only increased when Kurdi’s Canadian aunt said she’d tried to get members of his family to Canada only to have them refused.

“I spent two weeks being called a baby-killer by other MPs and by people in the media. That was not pleasant.”

The Liberals and NDP took citizenship, immigration and refugee issues for “pretty unpleasant purposes,” Alexander charged.

“That’s the story that people insist on telling, that we are cold-hearted Conservatives, that we’ve never done the right thing. And it’s wrong,” said Alexander.

“We started bringing Syrian refugees to Canada on a large scale in January,” he said. “But nobody covered it. Somehow it became divisive that we hadn’t brought them all, by the middle of the campaign.”

Canada has resettled 2,500 Syrian refugees since 2013. Global News and other media organizations have been covering the issue extensively over the past two years.

Alexander predicts Liberal leader Justin Trudeau will have trouble following through on his promise to bring 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by the end of the year.

“Nothing’s impossible, but cost, safety, the operational standards for which Canada is renowned, are all issues,” he said.

“We have the best record in the world for refugee resettlement because we do it well. We meet certain standards. We check out who people are. We make sure human smugglers aren’t involved. We make sure identity theft isn’t involved. We make sure people are who they say they are. We make sure criminals don’t benefit from Canada’s generous refugee policies. When you start moving large numbers of people in short periods of time, all of that can be compromised.”

As Global News has reported, Canada doesn’t have the best record in the world on refugees, although we have taken in more than the United States. Advocates have argued there’s no reason Canada couldn’t bring in more people while maintaining security standards.

Alexander also takes issue with the campaign’s focus on new laws that gave him the authority to unilaterally strip dual citizens of their Canadian citizenship if they were found guilty of terrorism.

The Conservatives were accused of making it an election issue when they announced during the campaign their intention to strip the citizenship of people arrested on terror charges almost a decade ago. Justin Trudeau kept the issue in the headlines, repeating “a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian” in his speeches and saying that the Conservative change was creating two classes of citizens – something that Alexander believes was a mischaracterization.

“Suddenly we ended up in a campaign talking about second-class citizens? That concept does not exist in Canadian law. It should not exist in public debate. We did not introduce it to the debate. When it was introduced by the party that’s now won the election, we didn’t counter it enough,” he said.

“We don’t have room in this country for poison like that :ironicat: and people deserve in an election to know what the law actually says, the protections they enjoy in this country, what opportunities they enjoy in this country compared to virtually every country in the world. But that failed to be communicated.”

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

twistedmentat posted:

I was right, the CPC is taking the GOP playbook in saying they lost because they failed to communicate their terrible ideas right, and not because the voting population rejects their ideas.

Good.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Brannock posted:

It's insane to me that people are getting their hackles up about 24 Sussex, even if it's only just the pundits. If the White House fell into disrepair it would be regarded as a source of national embarrassment.

The White House is the main workplace of the president, and it houses many executive functions. 10 Downing Street also acts as the HQ of the executive branch. 24 Sussex is merely the PM's official residence.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Do it ironically posted:

nice of notley to rack up 16 billion in debt for my province and then claim it will balanced after their term is over hmmm yes

though i am loling over the tabacco increase

:qq:

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Vancouver City Council voted today to tear down the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts. You know what that means: a bunch of people who don't live in Vancouver will be slightly inconvenienced while driving through Vancouver. That's bad!

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 28, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

CLAM DOWN posted:

Tearing the viaducts down is a good decision, especially considering their plans for the land. gently caress everyone from Surrey opposing this.
People are demanding a metro-wide referendum on this thing, lol. Yes let's ask the residents of Langley if we're allowed to clean up our front yard. With our own money.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

sbaldrick posted:

I'm surprised no on has talked about how Harper it seemed planed on a 150 million dollar renovation to bring the PMO to 24 Sussuex.

Tell me more.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Viaduct chat.

quote:

Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson denies B.C. Infrastructure Minister Todd Stone's claims that the city hadn't consulted with the province before voting to remove the viaducts that lead to the downtown core.

"I think he may not have been briefed and updated on the extensive meetings and discussions that have been going on between the city and the province," said Robertson.

After city councillors voted 5-4 to remove the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts, Stone said the viaducts' removal was not a done deal and that city needed to "cool down" on its plans.

gently caress the loving Liberals.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 29, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

CLAM DOWN posted:

Do they have the actual legal authority to prevent the city from doing it?

I doubt it, but they could retaliate by making life hell for us in other ways. They're just pandering to their base of angry suburban motorists

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

CLAM DOWN posted:

gently caress the loving BC Libs, for real.

NDP gonna lose again lol~ :rip:

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Harper turned the top floor of 24 Sussex into a cat sanctuary.

quote:

Despite the auditor’s warning, a spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the leader and his family wouldn’t leave the premises. The prime minister’s wife, Laureen Harper, later told the Ottawa Citizen the house was a “beautiful heritage property,” and “well-suited to our family.”

The Harpers used part of 24 Sussex as a foster home for dozens of cats, taking in special-care felines with an upstairs space set aside with litter and toys. Mrs. Harper is known around Ottawa to recruit friends “and anyone she came across” to come over and adopt a cat, said Jim Armour, a former press aide to Mr. Harper. Mr. Armour said he ended up adopting two cats after a visit to the third floor.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Get your tears here. Fresh salty CPC tears





Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

A poison headcrab zombie but with cats

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

After 9 years of "Stevie" I think it's fair

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Turns out the Liberals claimed the "gently caress you dad" vote this time

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Tax-and-spend liberal elitist eggheads are out of touch with the concerns and priorities of the common people.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

PT6A posted:

He should call their bluff. If they obstruct too much, they'll be lynched in the streets. It's not like the Canadian people are overly fond of senators to begin with.
"We have a senate?"

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Ranked ballots are no good for me anyway because theres only one major party I can support and even then it's like ugh.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

a primate posted:

The University of Calgary's relationship with Enbridge has come under fire due to concerns over academic freedom

The article doesn't really present any damning evidence on the part of Enbridge, but it does look like the higher ups at the university were placing pressure on professors so that they wouldn't lose their sweet tar dollars. One prof was fired ostensibly for speaking out against Enbridge. Yet another reason why strong public funding for post-secondary is important.

Kwantlen :airquote: "University" :airquote: tried to shut down a student protest against LNG pipes and fracking too

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Shun all real estate agents.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Conservative MP pulls no punches on campaign’s failure

quote:

“We lost an election because we were devastatingly off-brand,” Lake wrote.

Our brand and unparalleled record screamed for majestic, movie trailer-style ads with .. many epic shots of our Conservative prime minister leading on the world stage or in the House of Commons. The list of powerful images and messages is almost limitless, and yet was inexplicably unused.”

Lake wasn’t done yet.

“Instead, with no less than four-and-a-half years to be ready and a vaunted war chest having been accumulated, we seem to have been completely unprepared. Our messaging was all about the other guys, and really nothing meaningful about our prime minister. Our major communications tools literally contained no substance, despite having a leader whose greatest brand strength was substance. In the final two weeks, while the Liberals ran the ads we should have been running, Conservative ads, in their tone, were easy to confuse with life insurance and pre-planned funeral ads.”

Focus our message. Economy. Security. Economy. Repeat. Trudeau’s stated platform is to run deficits and pull out of our mission against ISIS. These are approaches that we know will be extremely unpopular with Canadians over time. We need to reinforce this and remind Canadians that four years from now, we’ll be ready to clean up Trudeau’s mess.”

Lol @ this guy.

Lol @ the sun attempting to contrive a dramatic race for interim leader of the CPC.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Nov 3, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Apparently that guy went to Pride and when asked what his party is doing for queer people he said "We're fighting ISIS"

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Many conservatives want it to be a good country for immigrants, and they believe it is, just not for immigrants who follow the bad religion.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

The next election is in 2019. There's no particular urgency to change leaders right now.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Some conservative men are mad because an MLA in Alberta is having a baby and now she's demanding parental leave at the long-suffering taxpayer's expense! (she's actually not) How could she be so irresponsible as to have a child while having a job! What about her constituents?!!


Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Nov 4, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Bye Whoarper :byewhore:

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008



PET about to be sworn in, 1968

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Melian Dialogue posted:

I liked JJ back when I had never seen his face and occasionally read his dumb comic about int'l stuff. Anything to do with Canada was usually Conservative garbage.

I can't blame him for doubling down on the whole Sun News thing. Kid's gotta get paid. Its sad he doesn't realize though that becoming a caricature Youtube star isn't going to let him continue on as a political pundit unless he just wants to become the next Ezra Levant


Explains a lot.

He used to kind of straddle the fence on domestic issues and give weight to both sides and all that poo poo, but this year he became basically a mini Poiličvre. He's angling to become Canada's Tucker Carlson and I think it's adorable.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Nov 4, 2015

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

pfizerman posted:

Part of me is thinking this is secret liberal strategy to demolish the NDP into irrelevance the next election - particularly if they continue on with the current leadership for any stretch.

Yeah, in four years time voters are really going to think back to that time the NDP leader said a thing about the size of JT's cabinet. What an idiot! This moment will be at the top of their minds for sure.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

PT6A posted:

"Nothing" was an acceptable thing to say about the size of cabinet, though. Choosing something other than "nothing" shows they're going to try to whine about irrelevant nonsense to try and remain relevant.
Nothing would be an acceptable thing for you to say about anything, at any time.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

We better just shut up you guys, let we be called whiners. We're only allowed to discuss things the establishment deems important, and only at the acceptable times.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

PT6A posted:

Christ you're salty about the NDP being a useless and irrelevant force in this election.
You're really mad that everyone isn't obediently fawning over the shiny new cabinet. Very diversity, such women you guyz~

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Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Can't wait to hear how we're whiny and salty and grasping for relevance when actual policies come out and they are criticized for any reason whatsoever.

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