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Feb 27, 2009

Baudin posted:

A fellow that had the unfortunate experience of having scandalous attack ads launched against him by his liberal opponent (which were memorable for having only things he posted about himself on his website as the "attack ad" facts). Yes let's give it up for Garnett Genuis, the new MP for Sherwood Park-Fort Saskatchewan. I get to deal with that for 4 more loving years.

Have any links to these ads? It's hard to believe that he achieved his dream of becoming an MP.

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Feb 27, 2009
Bill Tieleman at the Tyee has a good analysis of the NDP's failure. In particular, he is absolutely right to contextualize this election as part of a greater, unsuccessful strategy:

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/10/27/NDP-Was-Not-Ready/ posted:

First, the federal NDP's 2015 loss and the failed campaign strategy are hardly unique. Take a look at the depressing BC NDP campaign of 2013, when the BC Liberals snatched away what many assumed was a guaranteed victory for the provincial New Dems.

There was also the disastrous Olivia Chow campaign for mayor of Toronto, where she fell from frontrunner to a "jaw dropping" third.

Then there is the thumping the NDP took in the federal byelection in Chow's former Toronto riding at the hands of Liberal Adam Vaughn, as well as the 2014 Ontario NDP provincial campaign by leader Andrea Horwath that alienated some supporters while ensuring Liberal Premier Kathleen Wynne won a majority government.

Those NDP "battle of the blands" recent campaigns all had several elements in common:

• A mistaken belief that a conservative, play it safe, front-runner, government-in-waiting type strategy would succeed no matter what;

• A focus on risk-averse platforms designed not to rock the boat with centrist voters who might worry what an NDP government would do;

• Running like pale Liberals instead of colourful New Democrats, leaving voters to pick the real thing over the imitation version;

• Weak, mostly content-free advertising focused on the leader only;

• Very few strong social democratic campaign promises that might excite the base; and

• An inability to pivot as circumstances changed during the election.

When the NDP moves to a boring middle road, its Liberal opponents have been able to outflank it on the left -- despite their centre-right governing records -- and offer a more exciting, vibrant brand of government activism than the bureaucratic New Democrats are willing to provide.

In some of these campaigns, senior party officials like McGrath and Lavigne, along with former federal NDP leadership runner-up Brian Topp (now Alberta Premier Rachel Notley's chief of staff), Nathan Rotman, and other NDP veterans played key roles.

For example, Topp ran then BC NDP leader Adrian Dix's 2013 campaign with Lavigne and McGrath assisting, and several senior federal NDP veterans were involved in the Chow mayoralty campaign.

But regardless of the cast, the plot is all too familiar: a campaign that begins with high hopes of victory ends in bitter defeat.

I'm perhaps not as eager as some others to see Mulcair go (though I agree that whatever happens, it needs to be a democratic decision), but the party's staffing, strategies, and organization need a complete overhaul.

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Feb 27, 2009

Helsing posted:

This seems more like an indictment of the Canadian political establishment generally. The NDP was bad on Israel under Layton and seemingly indistinguishable from any other party under Mulcair. Last election we let a homophone run under the party banner while kicking out people who had at some point in the past made critical comments about Israel.

Those awful homophones. :colbert:

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Feb 27, 2009
The list of cuts and 'efficiencies' made in the 2012 budget has been released. Some real doozies in it.

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/ip-pi/trans/sor-esf-eng.asp?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=news&utm_term=wire&utm_content=release&utm_campaign=soar

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Feb 27, 2009

Franks Happy Place posted:

Colby Cosh is mostly a discount bin Mark Steyn, but god drat is he right in this one.

And way better than Black's latest piece. Ugh.

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Feb 27, 2009
The statistical beast is no longer lean and mean, it's hungry and pissed.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/shared-services-behind-tech-issues-plaguing-statscan-chief-statistician/article30985153/ posted:

One memo from Daniela Ravindra, director-general of industry statistics , said there is a “very real risk” that this year the agency will hit a bottleneck in processing capacity, which will force the delay of “mission critical” releases. “Having to delay their release would be unprecedented and will impact the ability of key users, (e.g. Bank of Canada, Department of Finance, commercial banks, etc.) of making timely decisions, translating into considerable embarrassment to the government of Canada.”

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Feb 27, 2009
So Donald Trump said "I would pull out of NAFTA in a split second".

I really, really hope that our government has better contingency plans than the British government did.

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Feb 27, 2009

Drunk Canuck posted:

You realize this isn't a bad thing for us, right?

If Trump is elected and dissolves NAFTA, there would be huge economic repercussions which the government should prepare for. While I'm not sure what I think of NAFTA overall, if the government doesn't plan out a potential response the consequences could be catastrophic for Canada. What's going to happen to all the cross-border trade?

As well, the potential end of NATO is really significant. How is the government going to enforce our interests and sovereignty in the North if America declines to uphold its obligations?

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Feb 27, 2009

ocrumsprug posted:

I imagine that some day Canadians will realize that the POTUS doesn't make or ratify treaties.

That day isn't today though.

If Trump and the executive arm of the American government decline to uphold treaty obligations and Congress declines to hold the executive to account, what's the difference?

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Feb 27, 2009

vyelkin posted:

Trump is fighting a poorly organized uphill battle against a very well-oiled political machine that will feature Clinton's chief rival for the nomination and a popular incumbent president both campaigning hard for her.

We shouldn't start panicking that Trump is going to win the election, repeal NAFTA, annex Canada, and then not defend the arctic just yet.

I agree it's unlikely that Trump will win, I just would feel much more comfortable if some moderately bright mid-level bureaucrats are working on some contingency plans now. I mean, the absolutely worst thing that could come from creating plans is that some government workers did some useful training. But if Trump is elected, having something already down on paper would make a big difference for the government's response.

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Feb 27, 2009

Monaghan posted:

lol I read the cbc article on the scc changes and the first loving comment is "why does the judge have to be bilingual"

This loving country.

You have a problem with translation for the SCC?

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Feb 27, 2009

OSI bean dip posted:

God forbid that someone who faces a Supreme Court judge that doesn't understand one of the official languages and cannot make their case to them clearly.

Court translators are really good at their craft. Have there been any problems with the current system? I'd rather have an argument or testimony be correctly translated by a professional than have it be slightly misunderstood by a mostly-bilingual judge.

Edit: Requiring bilingualism eliminates a large pool of qualified lawyers and judges. I'd also much rather have a really good unilingual judge than a moderately good bilingual one.

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Feb 27, 2009

OSI bean dip posted:

You are woefully ignorant of the nuances of things when it comes to translation. I take that you only know English? Translation is really a best effort sort of thing. A lot of stuff really does not translate well from English to French and vice-versa.

Haha, well, I certainly plead guilty to being a woefully ignorant anglo. I've found a couple links to further discussion of the issue (http://www.capitaldocumentation.ca/documents/SCC.pdf, http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/content/lop/researchpublications/cei-03-e.htm), and I have to say that there are some good arguments presented there and in this thread that are beginning to change my mind.

In particular, the argument that English is already a de-facto requirement and that there haven't been any non-English speaking SCC justices is rather strong. You and Kenny Logins also have made some good points that simultaneous translation is not as effective as I thought and is also considered a second-best solution in international arbitration. I'm still concerned about the effect that a bilingual requirement would have on judges from Western regions though.

Maybe the whole thing could be solved by having an official patois.

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Feb 27, 2009
https://twitter.com/gregobr/status/781890831770906624
https://twitter.com/mathewi/status/781891813045141504

Also, the CBC is an 'uber-predator' and the "biggest single obstacle to there being a vibrant and innovative marketplace of ideas in the media space", according to the publisher of iPolitics.

What? No, competing on quality would never work.

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Feb 27, 2009
The PBO created a really cool tool at https://www.readyreckoner.ca to calculate the impact that changes taxes would have on the federal budget. It will create a neat little report for you.

I increased corporate taxes and the GST, lowered taxes and raised exemptions for lower-income earners, and increased taxes on higher-income earners and increased annual revenue by $8b!

How is this hard, Canada? We handled the GST at 7% just fine.

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Feb 27, 2009
Yes, consumption taxes are regressive, but there are simple ways of offsetting that through rebates. Why not just raise the rebate for the GST for people making below a certain amount (like you can do in that calculator)? Raising consumption taxes discourages consumption, which is environmentally beneficial.

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Feb 27, 2009

cowofwar posted:

gently caress rebates and gently caress tax credits. Those are even more regressive because when you look at who uses that poo poo it's all upper class people because poor people often don't do their taxes, don't know what's available and don't have time to budget and seek out free money. Meanwhile rich people plan their lives around every single government provided source of free money. drat sure they are collecting every rebate and credit they can find.

That seems to be a question of implementation. Making GST rebates automatic could solve the issues you discussed. Just because a tool isn't currently working in the direction you want doesn't mean it should be scrapped and thrown out. But in general yes, the proliferation of boutique tax credits and rebates under the previous government was harmful and a bad direction.

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Feb 27, 2009

THC posted:

People complain that the NDP platform isn't green enough, but rather than join the NDP and/or push for the changes they want, they instead throw in with a party whose supreme-leader-for-life arbitrarily disregards the overwhelming democratic will of its membership and disempowers anyone who disagrees.

This. People complain that their union is useless, that their community association is full of NIMBYs, that their favourite political party doesn't represent their views, but refuse to participate or advocate for changes. Fundamentally, institutions are the people that are in it.

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Feb 27, 2009

TheKingofSprings posted:

Is Toronto really some magical bastion against native racism?

Most major cities in the west have a higher proportion of FN people than does Toronto. With more visibility comes more racism.

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Feb 27, 2009

cowofwar posted:

I don't understand why the polling company pre-polled and clustered the results in to those five categories. Sure, do that analysis with the final data set but why do a tiny rear end sampling to identify n clusters and then do a big poll to see how the data maps on to those clusters? That's bad methodology, I'm certain the number of significant clusters would be way higher than five in the final set. It's basically a summary of the problem with the current system: if I polled ten Canadians based on the data I might conclude that only LPC and CPC exist and the rest are weird outliers, so then I poll everyone else, push it through my model and find that Canadians are 55% LPC and 45% CPC. See the problem?

And if you're going to do some sort of PCA analysis then you need a waaaay better question set. Garbage in garbage out.

There's no one 'true' cluster analysis on a given set of questions. They probably could have created four, or six, clusters and had perfectly respectable results. You can determine an suitable number of clusters by making a scree plot of the sum-of-squared-errors of a different number of clusters. A dataset of 3000 responses (which is what they trained the clusters on, and is hardly a 'tiny rear end' sample) is more than large enough to perform a cluster analysis, and the number of clusters is independent of the size of a data set. They 'pre-polled' because they wanted a representative sample of Canadians. Likely the final report will analyze the public survey and the representative survey separately.

PCA, or principle component analysis, is a tool to transform and reduce a set of variables into a smaller set of uncorrelated variables, and is distinct from cluster analyses, which determines similarities between cases, not variables. I'm not going to defend the question set, but the client for this survey likely wanted the study done a very particular way and gave them specific research objectives, and it's hardly fair to blame the outcome entirely on Vox Pop Labs.

Given the set of questions the cluster analysis likely has reasonable validity. The issue is more the particular research objectives, how the particular set of questions was determined, and the very small-minded approach to considering the space of potential outcomes. 'Engagement'. Ugh.

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Feb 27, 2009

Jimbozig posted:

"Cooperators are, as a whole, the most interested of any archetype in taking action to increase the diversity of representation in Parliament. They are more likely to want Members of Parliament to better reflect Canada’s diverse population. "

What the gently caress? I strongly disagreed with all their forced diversity bullshit. Except for the question that asked about a "diversity of views" because I thought that was about having more parties and thus more diverse political views.

I went in and tried to say no to everything except the ones that applied to PR - which were all about "do you want more, smaller parties and less accountability?" gently caress off! There is ZERO accountability right now and the fact that the liberals have a majority is proof of that.

Vox Pop has done a lot of similar things in the past. They had one a few years ago about Toronto municipal politics that was very well received in this thread, and it used a similar methodology, including slotting respondents into clusters. The problem is that people (reasonably!) want to express their views on very important issues like this, and not be forced into a stupid vote compass designed by a poli sci phd with a hard-on for stupid vote compasses.

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Feb 27, 2009

vyelkin posted:

Yeah and I got "Innovator - you're a huge fan of online voting and lowering the voting age and mandatory voting!" despite saying I was steadfastly opposed to all of those things. The whole quiz is total bullshit.

Here's how they designed the engagement quiz:

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/the-making-of-mydemocracy-ca-the-liberals-electoral-reform-survey/ posted:

Once we had the parameters of the survey, we worked with an advisory panel of prominent scholars in areas such as research design, survey methodology and electoral politics. We developed a survey that drew from the existing literature on electoral reform in Canada and tried to identify various values that structure that discussion. We then built a very large survey with a number of questions—many more questions that you see included in MyDemocracy.ca—and field-tested those questions to random panels of Canadians to ensure that we were controlling for biased survey design or any other deficiencies.

Once we did all that field testing, we then went to quite a large panel of Canadians—more than 3,000—and asked them the remaining questions and used their responses to generate a cluster analysis. A cluster analysis finds correlations in responses to a survey and identifies how different groups of respondents cluster in a specific space.

If you go to MyDemocracy.ca and get your initial result, you can see the themes that emerged and how you are positioned on those themes, and also the distribution of Canadian public opinion. Once we had those clusters, which we represent as archetypes in the tool, we were able to look at their positions on issues and develop a narrative around them and also provide a label for them that spoke to some of their positions.

Notice that their methodology doesn't include the step 'talk to Canadians to find out what they care about'. Instead, it's an expert-driven process that didn't involve 'consulting' or 'engaging' Canadians at all.

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Feb 27, 2009

sitchensis posted:

It's time to clock out now. I quickly finish my last task within the three micro-second limit allotted to me by my Workr App. It pings softly, registering my labour, and gives me a total earned for the day. It's not much. Barely enough to cover my AirBnB for the night. Maybe I'll get a better gig tomorrow.

It's time to find a place to sleep.

I gather up what few belongings I have and stuff them into my backpack. I'm not looking forward to finding another condo to crash at tonight, but in this day and age its a necessity. Unable to afford my own home, I have to rent nightly AirBnBs. I heard that people used to have rental contracts and landlords for such a thing. But this is the sharing economy now. As far as I know, the last apartment building was converted to condos two years ago. It's disruptive, they say. Sure as hell is to me. This entire city is now a nightly game of musical chairs. I know my father once applied for social housing, but the wait list for it has stretched beyond my lifetime and into that of my grandchildren.

At the elevator, another survey:

"Loosening rules on lending would help make homes more affordable and improve housing choices for Canadians"

Strongly Agree
Agree
Neutral
Disagree
Strongly Disagree

I am woken by the sound of the daily meal kit falling through the mail slot onto the floor. My back hurts from sleeping on the couch, the recent changes to optimize the AirBnB experience seem to have led to fewer and fewer private rooms being available. I open the rations and grimace. Today's chef-inspired recipe doesn't include the needed quinoa, but I'll need to find some so today's roommates don't give me a poor review. It needs twenty minutes heating time too, and I'm not sure I can afford to rent that much power today. My phone needs charging too.

I wait in line with everybody else at the farmer's market. There wasn't much quinoa today, but maybe the roommates won't notice. Peter Mansbridge's face is on the market's telescreen again, reading another newscast. My phone vibrates.

"Do you agree that young Canadians' CPP should be donated to retirees?"

Strongly Agree
Agree
Neutral
Disagree
Strongly Disagree

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Feb 27, 2009
Good story from the Star on how the lives of cyclists and pedestrians aren't valued by the legal system.

"David Rider/Toronto Star posted:

While there is sometimes anger at the drivers, it’s Ontario laws that dictate penalties. Brown believes car bias is baked into our laws, into how police investigate and question drivers, and finally into drivers’ sentencing at court.

Theoretically, drivers can face up to 10 years in jail under a criminal charge of dangerous driving causing injury, up to six months in jail and a fine of $2,000 for the provincial offence of careless driving, or they can face an $85 fine for a minor traffic offence such as an improper turn.

Legal observers say courts almost never give the maximums and usually accept plea bargains to less serious charges. There are many examples of motorists paying less than $1,000 for actions that killed a person.

By contrast, Ontario courts have also fined a tourist $1,000 for hunting a bear with a spear, developers $5,000 for each illegally removed tree and a man $2,000 for drunkenly driving a riding mower.

I've gotten a lot more militant about this issue over the past couple years especially after a couple close calls this summer and then attending a town hall meeting in Ottawa about the Elgin Street redesign where some local businesses just bitched the whole time about the possibility of losing a few dozen on-street parking spots. Frankly, where possible, there should be a War on Cars. Limit speeds. Reduce the amount of dedicated car lanes and widen sidewalks and bike lanes. Move a significant amount of resources and funding away from subsidizing autos to alternative forms of transportation. Make it more difficult to drive and much harder to be licensed. Make careless driving have real consequences and not a lovely one month driving ban for using a giant machine to crush a living human being to death. Anyways, I suppose that's not something most of the ~urban elites~ here disagree with but it's a Good Article that's supported by lots of well organized evidence.

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Feb 27, 2009
It's not exactly news that the deeply reactionary RCMP security branch compiled dossiers on hundreds of thousands of Canadians during the Cold War, but having proof that wiretaps were authorized by the Privy Council is surprising and extended for decades beyond the nominal reason for surveillance is significant.

"Federal cabinet secretly approved Cold War wiretaps on anyone deemed 'subversive,' historian finds posted:

A Canadian historian has found top secret documents from the dawn of the Cold War that show the federal government secretly approved an RCMP surveillance program to wiretap suspected spies, communist sympathizers and others deemed "disloyal" or "subversive."

Dennis Molinaro of Trent University says he was stunned to discover documents that show the cabinet of Prime Minister Louis St-Laurent passed a "secret order" in 1951 to authorize the RCMP surveillance, code-named Picnic.

But the actual cabinet edict, which formed the cornerstone of decades of future wiretapping, was never revealed to Parliament and never transferred to Canada's archives.

"Ultimately, we don't know how big it gets, how far it goes, how long people are wiretapped," Molinaro told CBC News. "There are indications that this wiretapping goes on until at least the second term of Pierre Elliott Trudeau's government."

He says officials in the Privy Council Office refuse to release the 65-year-old secret order — or even confirm it exists.

Worth putting into the context of recent reporting by Vice and Justin Ling about the push by current security agencies to erode privacy protections.

"Justin Ling posted:

A Canadian federal court dropped a bombshell this week when it revealed that intelligence services have been collecting and storing the metadata of Canadians not suspected of committing any crimes.

In a ruling announced Thursday, the court said the bulk data analysis program operated by the Canadian Security Intelligence Services — it’s essentially Canada’s CIA — involved retaining “non-threat, third-party” information on a large scale. The ruling, however, remains heavily redacted.

"Justin Ling posted:

As the Trudeau government contemplates new powers for the federal police force, the documents call for the RCMP to push for “the creation of a new public narrative around why police need judicially authorized and timely access to online information.”

The memo was prepared by the RCMP in advance of a February meeting in Washington, D.C., where Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale sat down with his American, British, Australian, and New Zealand counterparts in the Five Eyes intelligence partnership.

“Foremost, the problem must be articulated in terms of its impact on safety and the economic well-being of individuals and businesses,” the memo, obtained through an access to information request, states. “This will require messaging that aims to re-establish the importance of balancing community safety needs with online privacy and anonymity expectations.”

One of the things has stuck with me from reading some about the history of the Canadian security services is that they have generally had very limited, dim, and frankly intellectually uncurious outlook on what actually constitutes a security threat. They spent a lot of effort monitoring what they considered 'subversives', mostly First Nations groups, people advocating for gay rights, students that joined socialist clubs, academics, environmentalists, and what remained of the Communists after the 1950s.

But they basically had to be hit over the head by Igor Gouzenko to recognize the reality of Soviet espionage, and I suspect that's hardly changed in recent years--certainly, the professional class that staffs the security services has more formal education nowadays--as they spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to convince mentally ill people to commit crimes, move resources away from investigating organized crime, and don't seem to have any success or any will to fight money laundering. It doesn't seem like there's much in the way of efforts to deal with espionage from China, but I'd be happy to read reports contradicting that. But when it comes to First Nations groups standing up for their rights, the RCMP will be right there to stop them!

Maybe instead of taking away Canadians' rights, CSIS, CSEC, RCMP, and FINTRAC should stop being poo poo at their jobs.

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Feb 27, 2009

THC posted:

It makes a lot more sense when you realize that their first job is to ensure the security the Canadian colonial project, which is the theft of land from the indigenous peoples and the exploitation of natural resources therein for Canada's powerful clients - Britain, the USA, and now China. The safety of the public is a secondary concern.

Oh yeah, but even considered within that context, it's often counterproductive and ineffective and the people involved are third raters.

"Glen A. Jones' Review of Spying 101: The RCMP's Secret Activities at Canadian Universities, 1917-1997 posted:

With the professionalization of the RCMP, the situation changed, especially as the level of formal education among officers increased. In fact, many officers became part-time university students and, occasionally, informants who would write reports based on their observations of "radical" activities on-campus. This new generation had a much greater understanding of the university context, but reports continued to focus on over-stated threats involving misguided assumptions. In many respects, this is a story of a bumbling, ballooning bureaucracy where tremendous energy is devoted to justifying the importance of devoting tremendous energy to monitoring the activities of faculty and students. It is the story of reports based on innuendo and questionable evidence being sent to a central office with limited capacity to synthesize and organize the mammoth documentation that was submitted. At times, I found myself reading the book as a multi-layered game involving Hewitt's masterful sleuthing and analysis of the rule-bending and exaggerated narratives of a bureaucratic, frequently paranoid Security Service.

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Feb 27, 2009

Dreylad posted:

The early files where the RCMP tries to figure out what communism is (bad) and capitalism is (good) in order to explain to their security agents what they're looking for is kinda hilarious reading it now, but you didn't need a high school degree to join the RCMP until the 1970s. The immediate Royal Commission following the Gouzenko Affair, the Kellock-Tascherau Comission resulted in 13 or so people held without being charged or access to counsel for weeks. On the upside, it mobilized civil rights activists and began the slow march towards the Charter.

I've looked through a lot of the RCMP SS documents mainly at the monitoring of churches and people in the 60s. Unlike the FBI that tended to have the resources to analyze the field surveillance their agents submitted, the actual office that processed all the field surveillance reports was tiny. The RCMP was monitoring thousands of people, from humanitarians like Lotta Hitschmanova to women's Tupperware parties, but would have never been able to really act on the information if there was an imminent threat.

Oh also the RCMP happily traded surveillance reports on Canadian citizens to the United States for CIA intelligence, which indirectly led to the suicide of Herbert Norman :waycool:

The Herbert Norman affair was utterly shameful.

It feels that the same bureaucratic mistakes are being repeated over and over again. So much resources and effort is being expended on systemic surveillance, with roughly zero useful analysis being done afterward. Even on its own terms, it's a failure. They are the drunk looking for lost keys under a lamppost because that's the sort of visible, measurable effort that gets a promotion.

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Feb 27, 2009

Helsing posted:

As for the UFCW we talked about them around the time Hassan Yussuf beat Ken Georgetti on a platform calling for a slightly more militant approach, and some of the tepid movements by labour toward embracing social movement unionism have been encouraging, but frankly I've found that most of the posts I make about internal union affairs are just lost in the white noise of this thread. People are at least somewhat willing to talk about the NDP or what I sometimes call the campus left, so I tend to discuss those topics more. I used to try and make more effort posts on the general state of left-wing institutions but frankly I got tired of typing up long screeds that nobody else seemed particularly interested in reading. At least with the NDP I usually get some responses, often unfriendly ones from people like Jordan7hm or Pinterest Mom, and that at least allows me to think about my own opinions in a new light or evaluate how other people are interpreting my arguments and ideas. So I guess the somewhat selfish answer is I tend to talk about the issues upon which I think I'm most likely to get feedback, because that way I feel like I'm actually getting something useful out of the discussion.

I've always really enjoyed your posts about union politics and found them quite insightful, but have limited experience myself, so have been reticent about commenting on them. Hope you'll keep them coming from time to time, as it's an important area that's not really well discussed otherwise.

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Feb 27, 2009
My MP's voicemail was full, but I sent an email to both her and the PM, and will call in the morning.

What an utterly cynical decision. No wonder Coyne is defending it on Twitter.

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Feb 27, 2009
So given the calls with Australia (here), not to mention Mexico (here), what are the odds that the Trump call with Trudeau was a total disaster?

It looks like Canada has two paths to go on with regard to foreign policy, we can have closer relations with the United States, or we can increase multilateral cooperation with other Latin and South American states, and the rest of the world. Given that the US has shown itself to be an unreliable partner, I think the best course would be the second.

Tie the giant down with a thousand threads.

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Feb 27, 2009
Bob White passed away. If you haven't seen it, this is a really good documentary about the CAW's split from the UAW.

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Feb 27, 2009
Looks like it's an unreasonable burden now to expect drivers to avoid slaughtering pedestrians and cyclists.

Ridiculous.

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Feb 27, 2009
Agreed. The correct response here is that institutions need to step up their game.

It's dispiriting and corrosive when mediocrity is accepted as the only way it can be.

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Feb 27, 2009

Interesting. Another way of looking at that is that across the country, only 30% of Canadians approve of their provincial political leadership.

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Feb 27, 2009

DynamicSloth posted:

I can't find any specifics on how EKOS purports to break down Ontario into 4 distinct classes (each with a significant sample size) but it has to be garbage.

Respondents self-identify their class in a regular survey question. From what I remember, the proportion identifying as upper class is usually pretty small, in about the 1%-2% range.

Edit: A public report released in 2017 by Ekos has 4% of respondents identifying as upper class.

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Feb 27, 2009

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

I had a few NDP supporters tell me today that they voted liberal to stop Doug... except they’re not in a riding the liberals can win

gently caress the liberals, this no majority campaign might have literally handed Doug a majority

I'm always amazed at how many people try to vote 'strategically' in an environment with close to zero information as opposed to voting their conscience.

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Feb 27, 2009
If you vote your conscience you may not get the result you hoped for but you'll never feel stupid.

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Feb 27, 2009
At least the polls were right on

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Feb 27, 2009

Hand Knit posted:

imo the key for the NDP now is to be very active with positive proposals, and making themselves significant in the ridings they won. Don't let people forget about dental coverage. don't make the mistake of 2011 and just assume that you'll become the not-tory default and attrition into power

This will absolutely be the case, and as in 2015, the party decides on a direction immediately:

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Hey guys I know the mood in general is low, but I’m here at the NDP convention and we’re feeling good about the wins we did get. We’ve had a lot of growth in the party and there is a sense that even though we didn’t achieve everything we could have. We have roots to grow from in the future

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Feb 27, 2009

enki42 posted:

At the end of the day, the problem is precisely that Doug Ford isn't respecting the idea of good government or the reasons that the Charter is in place. No one gives enough of a poo poo about the number of seats in Toronto to make this big a fuss. If the specific problem is abusing the constitution, instead of abusing the constitution being a means to some other horrible end, then responding by abusing the constitution worse is nonsensical.

I just don't understand how it's an abuse of the constitution to protect and entrench democratic rights and processes at the municipal level. Not loving with ongoing elections is something that at the very least should be part of our unwritten constitution. By acting to protect democratic processes, the norms are strengthened, not abandoned.

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