CanPol Megathread: Big Changus

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flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Powershift posted:

What the gently caress is the alternative for somebody in Alberta at this point

# ¿ Mar 19, 2019 16:45

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:13

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Pinterest Mom posted:

the last good premier of Qu�bec also killed a woman while driving drunk and was never charged

We really do want to be America, don't we?

# ¿ Mar 19, 2019 16:56

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

This revolution makes perfect common sense. WCGW

# ¿ Mar 19, 2019 18:46

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

The government is big enough that it can and should be discussing both of these things at the same time.

The brains of the public, on the other hand, are not, and it's pretty foul how they're offering us one worthwhile discussion specifically-timed to distract us from the other.

# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 15:46

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Without even looking I knew it was frigging Beyak.

Silver Spooner posted:

Hey fun fact (that everybody in here probably already figured): Ontario doesn't have a spending problem, it has a revenue problem.

Wait, so the drug dealing yelly-man who said there was runaway spending on foofy social crap spoke before checking his facts?

# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 17:01

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Everyone has the right to speak including the chemtrails guy.

Or, you know, no.

# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 17:32

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Montreal politicians walk the walk

quote:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-to-take-crucifix-out-of-city-council-chamber-1.4344012

MONTREAL -- The City of Montreal announced Wednesday it will take down the crucifix that has hung in its council chamber for more than 80 years and move it to a new home.

The issue of crucifixes in legislative chambers across Quebec -- in particular the one prominently displayed at the provincial legislature in Quebec City -- has been central to the province's debate over secularism.

Coun. Laurence Lavigne Lalonde told the city's executive committee meeting that the crucifix, on display above the main door of the council chamber since 1937, will be removed ahead of three years of scheduled renovation work at city hall.

Lavigne Lalonde said the crucifix was installed in a different era to remind councillors of the oath before God that they took and, it won't be put back in the chamber when city hall reopens.

"I think we can agree the context has changed today," Lavigne Lalonde said, noting society is now represented by democratic institutions that are secular, neutral and open.

While Montreal is moving forward, the provincial Coalition Avenir Quebec government remains opposed to removing the crucifix from the legislature, although the premier said his caucus would discuss the issue.

The crucifix was first installed above the Speaker's chair in the national assembly in 1936, and successive provincial governments have rejected requests to remove the symbol. That includes the Coalition government, which said last October it is an important part of Quebec's heritage.

The debate comes as the government moves to impose strict religious neutrality rules on state employees in positions of authority, including teachers, judges and police officers, who would be forbidden from wearing visible religious symbols. Legislation is expected in the coming weeks.

"The City of Montreal has the power to take down the crucifix," Immigration, Diversity and Inclusiveness Minister Simon Jolin-Barrette told reporters Wednesday in Quebec City. "The national assembly has always decided to maintain it, and that's the position of the government, because it's a patrimonial symbol."

Questioned separately about Montreal's move, Premier Francois Legault said the crucifix issue would be discussed at caucus.

"Everyone must make compromises. We'll look at positions of different voices in caucus, and we'll come back to you," Legault told reporters. "It's all part of secularism discussions."

Lavigne Lalonde said Montreal's crucifix is an important piece of Montreal's heritage, and it will have a new home in a museum space in the renovated city hall where other significant historical items will be on display

# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 17:58

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Countdown until there's a regulation to that act that says people who intentionally de-list their kids from insurance / could cover their kids but don't aren't eligible either

# ¿ Mar 21, 2019 15:17

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:13

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

The social isolation of Syrian refugees in Ottawa (from the rest of us because of language barriers and unemployment; not from each other) contributes significantly to their sense of despair and an apparent inability to rise above their current situation, a situation made worse as their children master a language they do not speak

(For the non-Ottawans, 1240/1244 Donald Street has "resembled a ghetto" for decades)

quote:

Elle m�a pr�sent� un Syrien qui promenait sa fille handicap�e dans un tricycle. En fait, il est Kurde, une minorit� ostracis�e en Syrie o� il vivait dans les montagnes. Il parle longuement de ses probl�mes. L�allocation que lui verse le gouvernement passe presque � elle seule dans le loyer. Il reste peu d�argent pour nourrir les enfants et subvenir aux besoins de base. Il n�arrive pas � apprendre l�anglais. � M�me en arabe, je suis illettr� �, s�excuse-t-il. Il travaille au noir, dans un restaurant de shawarma. Il dit que le propri�taire profite de la situation pour l�exploiter. Comme bien d�autres, il en a surtout contre les logements trop chers, trop petits, et parfois infest�s de coquerelles o� on les a log�s. Sans emploi, sans la langue, il ne voit pas comment il sortira de la mis�re.

Assis sur une chaise en plastique, un autre Syrien encha�ne une cigarette apr�s l�autre. Fumer, c�est ce qui lui permet de tenir le coup, dit-il. Lui aussi sans emploi, incapable de ma�triser l�anglais. Un de ses fils est coinc� dans un camp en Jordanie. Un autre fait des crises, la nuit. � Ma femme et moi n�arrivons pas � dormir. On craint qu�il se jette par la fen�tre. �

# ¿ Mar 21, 2019 16:25

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