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For people waiting for a decent sale, green man gaming currently has FM 16 for $30 after their coupon code(XMAS20-PERGMG-SVINGS), which is the cheapest I've seen and the price I wait for every year before buying. Have yourself a subtly incrementally improved FM christmas
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Telex posted:okay since this apparently is NOT part of the steam sale for the first time in at least 4 years that I can remember, is there any place with an active discount on 2016? Ye same, I usually get it just before xmas when they've released 1-2 patches, but this time it doesn't seem like it'll be on sale anytime soon.
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joe football posted:For people waiting for a decent sale, green man gaming currently has FM 16 for $30 after their coupon code(XMAS20-PERGMG-SVINGS), which is the cheapest I've seen and the price I wait for every year before buying. Have yourself a subtly incrementally improved FM christmas sweet, thanks for the heads up! I'll pull the trigger at $30.
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Dec 25, 2015 18:41
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Ha! The game just got a 25% discount with the server tick.
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Dec 25, 2015 19:23
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It's actually on sale on Steam today (25% off in the US at least). I'm still playing my Monaco game in 15. I managed to make it back to the Champions League final (and swept the domestic league and cups) but lost to ManU in a depressing way (down 1-0 until 80 mins then made it level then in the last 5 mins they made it 4-1). Now I have an offer from Leverkusen to take over and I'm not sure if I want to jump. Both clubs are similar rep now but Bayer's budget is slightly smaller so I'd be moving mostly for the challenge. Monaco has been good to me but I feel like I've won everything so what would I do with them next except try to keep winning with the same team as last year?
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Dec 25, 2015 19:27
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and now i'm trying to download lots of GB's of logos and kits and facepacks on a 1.5mbit DSL connection. game will be playable by Monday maybe.
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Dec 25, 2015 19:35
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Assistants are fairly useless with bad stats, and with a competent player they aren't necessary, but if you can get an old italian man with a high tactical knowledge rating, their advice is pretty good and you can usually trust it (within reason), same with team talks and high motivation.
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Dec 25, 2015 20:14
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I do like having an assistant with very high Ability and Potential judgement to ask about players, not their view of the general ability but because they will tell you about hidden things, injury proneness, consistency, etc.
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Dec 25, 2015 20:33
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I use one with high tactical knowledge and judging ability for setting my opposition instructions
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Dec 26, 2015 01:04
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Protip: Never, ever use opposition instructions. But if you do never ever let the ai set them. Have fun watching your centre backs charge out of position to close down amcs and showing every winner inside. If your tactic doesn't work without them your tactics sucks and you should change it.
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Dec 26, 2015 10:11
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I haven't used OIs in fm16 so far, just seems terrible to actually make a tactic where I've tweaked each position to act a certain way, and then use OIs to overrule them. I used OIs a lot in fm15 though, shutting down opposition wingers/amcs seemed kind of op.
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Dec 26, 2015 11:38
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I'm still plugging away on 15, is 16 a must have or would I be safe in waiting for a steeper drop in price (or rather, 17.) Outside of designing an ugly manager I don't see the point in buying, especially since the match engine was broken again after the beta progress.
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sassassin posted:Protip: Never, ever use opposition instructions. I've done well with it so far but I'll try not using them and see. I have noticed that if I ask a staff member with weak stats then they cook up all sorts of crazy poo poo which obviously would get you hosed up.
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Dec 26, 2015 12:41
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Also I have noticed that in my save, TNS in the welsh premier are nearing 100 game unbeaten 
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julian assflange posted:Also I have noticed that in my save, TNS in the welsh premier are nearing 100 game unbeaten It's not a real league, don't worry.
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sassassin posted:It's not a real league, don't worry. It's just interesting as because of it (I think) their rep is boosting I think, they are getting more and more mentions in the press Sneaks McDevious fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Dec 26, 2015 14:00
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I've seen the new rating guidelines for the January update. Leicester players are going to be fully sick, but not as good as Liverpool who have their own special band that allows their stars to be amazing despite being poo poo irl. Swansea are getting big deductions but that's hardly a shock. Looks like the PL overall is getting upgraded.
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Dec 26, 2015 14:48
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What about Wilshere who has incredible stats despite nobody ever seeing him play more than three games in a row?
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Dec 26, 2015 15:25
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Arsenal and City are the top band so will have the strongest squads and best players. No one will get downgraded, especially if they've been injured a lot.
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Dec 26, 2015 15:50
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sassassin posted:I've seen the new rating guidelines for the January update. Leicester players are going to be fully sick, but not as good as Liverpool who have their own special band that allows their stars to be amazing despite being poo poo irl. Huh? What's with Liverpool?
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Dec 26, 2015 21:39
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The Pl head researcher is a Liverpool fan so when they decide how good each team will be in the database Liverpool are always way better than their league position implies (which is the normal metric). In January their "star players" will be as good as anyone in the league and their squad average only below the top 4. There's a huge drop to the next band of teams which now includes Leicester. Coutinho will be 10 ca points higher than Mahrez.
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Dec 26, 2015 21:53
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lol not too surprised. Did the same thing happen with Arsenal a few versions back? I remember everyone was always complaining about them.
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Ragingsheep posted:lol not too surprised. Did the same thing happen with Arsenal a few versions back? I remember everyone was always complaining about them. The arsenal thing was their youth players always had sky high potential, even though their academy is second rate.
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sassassin posted:The Pl head researcher is a Liverpool fan so when they decide how good each team will be in the database Liverpool are always way better than their league position implies (which is the normal metric). Good.
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sassassin posted:Coutinho will be 10 ca points higher than Mahrez.  Why would they not change an obviously flawed system?
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I'm not sure how new it is since I hadn't played since 13 I think, but the scouting in this version is pretty cool. Actually having to build up your knowledge base instead of being able to search every player from the beginning gives you an extra thing to aim for. My scouting team of 22 only cover 32% of the world, so I assume we're missing some wonderkids somewhere. One nice thing I've realized is that you can use the filter "assistant's opinion of current ability" and if he has high judging CA, he will filter lovely players for you even if you haven't scouted them. THE PWNER fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Dec 27, 2015 04:20
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Walcott gets a 5 weeks injury *Considers retiring due to injuries*
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I still can't get over how ugly the managers look. I know FM is supposed to be playable on a huge range of machines (and that's good), but man
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Yeah some of the tracksuits are loving great but the faces are just horrible. I looked at the FM Base tactics forum to see what people are doing these days and it seems they're having the most success with tactics that have no DM, not even a CM-D or anything like that. 
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Fat Lowtax posted:I still can't get over how ugly the managers look. I know FM is supposed to be playable on a huge range of machines (and that's good), but man They're too cheap to hire anyone with graphics experience. Like the writing and ui stuff it's all handled by coders.
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Fat Lowtax posted:I still can't get over how ugly the managers look. I know FM is supposed to be playable on a huge range of machines (and that's good), but man Can you go and look at your manager in the game? I created a really ugly one, but can't find him other than the face showing up.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Yeah some of the tracksuits are loving great but the faces are just horrible. Aren't most of the "good" shared tactics just match engine exploits? I tried one a few versions ago, called "diablo," and it was just a straight up exploit that made you win every game 10-0 regardless of how bad your squad was. People loved it.
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I'm having good success with the same formation I use every version, 4231 with a flat back 4, DLP-S and BWM-D, IF-A AP-A IF-A, and an advanced forward. Proper defensive midfielders are crap
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THE PWNER posted:Aren't most of the "good" shared tactics just match engine exploits? I don't really agree with that - I always use the top fmbase tactics 1-2 months before the release of the new fm to try and get as many achievements as I can, and up till now, over 5+ FMs I've only ever used 1 tactic that was insta-win (I can't remember which FM it was, but those 3 striker formation tactics were amazing!) On the other hand I can understand why some people would be against the 'ME exploit' tactics, but if used after you've had all the fun you can with the game it definitely adds a few more weeks worth of play-time.
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A tactic build on solid footballing ideas will always do well in the match engine. Most of the difficulty comes from how deliberately confusing and misleading the labelling is. Once you work out what the buttons really do it's not hard to overachieve. Bogan Krkic posted:I'm having good success with the same formation I use every version, 4231 with a flat back 4, DLP-S and BWM-D, IF-A AP-A IF-A, and an advanced forward. Proper defensive midfielders are crap Defensive midfielders get bad ratings in this years game, but the ratings don't matter if the scoreboard shows the right result.
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I came up with my first actual good tactic that at least shows some semblance of basic understanding. 4-1-2-2-1 with 2 AMCs, a deep lying forward, wide midfielders cutting inside and fullbacks providing most of the width. Basically the DLF picks up long balls, holds up the ball, gets it out onto the full backs and a cross comes in with the AMCs and WM's in the box. The striker hardly scores and our goalscorers are all over the place, but its working super well. We have a pretty insane cross completion rate of 40% because we just have so many guys in the box that its impossible to mark all of them.
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sassassin posted:Defensive midfielders get bad ratings in this years game, but the ratings don't matter if the scoreboard shows the right result. theyre crap irl too!
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So I just signed a "good" regen winger without realizing he has a 1 for workrate, yes folks that's right a loving 1. What on earth does the match engine do with that, does he just stand around all game?
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Fat Lowtax posted:So I just signed a "good" regen winger without realizing he has a 1 for workrate, yes folks that's right a loving 1. What on earth does the match engine do with that, does he just stand around all game? Beats me. Start him and watch the full 90 mins (in Prozone view) and tell us what he does.
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Fat Lowtax posted:So I just signed a "good" regen winger without realizing he has a 1 for workrate, yes folks that's right a loving 1. What on earth does the match engine do with that, does he just stand around all game? It means he won't close down unless he just happens to be near the man with the ball. Its a defensive attribute. Getting involved in play generally is - perversely - Aggression. There is grey area overlap between the two because the coders sing from their own inconsistent hymn sheets, but the official definition of Work Rate is that it's the Pressing attribute. In certain systems low workrate is a good thing. Train him as a Raumdeuter or something. How is his Off The Ball?
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