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Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Nathilus posted:

I can see several ways around the selection bias issue. Don't make it a choice but rather a random selection with an opt out, for example.

This is effectively how the system operates today.


twodot posted:

I didn't understand this at all. I get prosecutors, prosecutors have a disincentive to try police, because they need police to gather evidence and if police dislike a prosecutor, the prosecutor may have trouble securing evidence which they need for future trials. How does that map to jurors? Fill in the blanks "Jurors have a disincentive to convict <group X> because they need <group X> to <activity Y> and if <group X> disliked jurors, the jurors may have trouble securing <result of activity Y> which they need for future <activity Z>".

This isn't why prosecutors are disincentivized.

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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Trent posted:

Having jurors that are not peers except in the vaguest sense of being humans that currently live in the same nation rather than sharing any sense of cultural awareness feels somehow off to me.

Well firstly, it's typically not in "the same nation as you", it's usually the same city as you (since most crimes are prosecuted at the local level). Secondly, there are plenty of examples where shared cultural awareness presents a clear and present bias towards the defendant (you can think of :heritage: for why that might be bad).

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