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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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It stands directly in opposition to liberalism and leftism, with its cult of the expert. Just say "no".

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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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blowfish posted:

There are plenty of countries that both are more democratic and less obsessed with the concept of a jury than the US.

In fact, juries stand in direct opposition to the reality that the average citizen is completely and utterly poo poo at making legal decisions and increase injustice for everyone.

Germany, where the class system is enshrined in the schools, is surely a model for democratic ideals.

In fact, the assumptions around "the average person is poo poo" are exactly that "cult of the expert"- lawyers are necessarily on a higher plane of existence, congenitally elite. Can a full caste system be far behind?

In any case, it's questionable whether the current obtuse state of the law is a necessary requirement or a coincidental consequence of the way law has evolved or a means of recentralizing control such that the average citizen is helpless against legal mechanisms, such as with policing.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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Neurolimal posted:

The decision of the jury is that of a moral decision, not a legal one. That's why you need the entire jury to agree, and why jury nullification results in a mistrial that finds the defendant free.

No one group of citizens holds an iron-clad expert hold on morality.

The big objection is that jurors can't possibly understand the legal framework they make their decision under.

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