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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Negligent posted:

dont do drugs and you wont die from a drug overdose

p simple really

please do drugs

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Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
drugs are bad and people who take them are dumb

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Negligent posted:

drugs are bad and people who take them are dumb

I thought you weren't a drug user.

AgentF
May 11, 2009

ssmagus posted:

I hope the greens like my 25$ donation. Fell down with the flu today, prob still sick tomorrow.

Sorry to hear it. I suppose we'll just have to have a gaming Goon meet when you get better :)

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

Negligent posted:

drugs are bad and people who take them are dumb

if we ban alcohol australia won't have a culture left though

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
It would be cool if the government manufactured and sold drugs as to undercut the criminal element and ensure that the drugs potency was tested and accurate.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

redweird posted:

It would be cool if the government manufactured and sold drugs as to undercut the criminal element and ensure that the drugs potency was tested and accurate.

Uh, didn't you read what Negligent wrote? Drugs are dumb. That's all we need to do.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




I get way too much amusement from conservatives trying to coopt progressive jargon like a cargo cult

Starshark posted:

Uh, didn't you read what Negligent wrote?

:siren:lol

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

Starshark posted:

Uh, didn't you read what Negligent wrote? Drugs are dumb. That's all we need to do.

No drugs are bad

People who take them are dumb and I'm not sad when they die

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Negligent posted:

No drugs are bad

People who take them are dumb and I'm not sad when they die

Sure. :glomp:

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

No drugs are bad

People who take them are dumb and I'm not sad when they die

You're a wretched piece of poo poo.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

SwissCM posted:

You're a wretched piece of poo poo.

society is objectively better off when drug users overdose and die

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Negligent posted:

society is objectively better off when drug users overdose and die

go on then

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
If only we had leaders in this country who saw things in such a black and white manner as Negligent. What a great country we would live in.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

society is objectively better off when drug users overdose and die

There are many ways that society could be "better off" if we did terrible, unethical things, this doesn't mean we should pursue or desire them.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

SwissCM posted:

There are many ways that society could be "better off" if we did terrible, unethical things, this doesn't mean we should pursue or desire them.

drugs are bad thats why they are illegal.

people who use drugs are acting illegally and unethically. i dont sit around actively hoping they die. but i dont feel bad at all when death happens to them.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

drugs are bad thats why they are illegal.

people who use drugs are acting illegally and unethically. i dont sit around actively hoping they die. but i dont feel bad at all when death happens to them.

If being a psychopath was illegal would you kill yourself.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
that doesnt even make sense. are you on drugs

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

that doesnt even make sense. are you on drugs
I was alluding that your point of view borderlines on the psychopathic, that psychopaths are damaging to society and therefore asking if you would kill yourself for the betterment of society (particularly if it was illegal).

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

SwissCM posted:

I was alluding that your point of view borderlines on the psychopathic, that psychopaths are damaging to society and therefore asking if you would kill yourself for the betterment of society (particularly if it was illegal).
you wrote more words but somehow make even less sense. try again when you're not high on drugs maybe??

drugs are bad.

society has made laws prohibiting their use.

people who choose to act unethically and take drugs do so at their own risk.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Society is far better off without malingerers like Van Gough and Picasso..

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

you wrote more words but somehow make even less sense. try again when you're not high on drugs maybe??

drugs are bad.

society has made laws prohibiting their use.

people who choose to act unethically and take drugs do so at their own risk.

You say you "dont feel bad at all when death happens" to drug users. So if you saw someone ODing in the street, a friend of theirs frantically shaking them crying and screaming for help, you would just shrug your shoulders?

Because it's illegal and they shouldn't have done it tsk tsk

EDIT: Also, unlawful /= unethical, going by dictionary definition anyway.

SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Nov 30, 2015

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

starkebn posted:

If only we had leaders in this country who saw things in such a black and white manner as Negligent. What a great country we would live in.

we already have great leaders like Cardinal Pell who helped bring an end to drug injection rooms.

sick of Applebees
Nov 7, 2008

Negligent posted:

society is objectively better off when drug users overdose and die

So if I wanted to make Australia better, all I'd have to do is take up drugs and then od?
How many times should I use a drug before it's a net benefit to Australia when I die, or is it still just as good an effect if I od my first time?

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

SwissCM posted:

You say you "dont feel bad at all when death happens" to drug users. So if you saw someone ODing in the street, a friend of theirs frantically shaking them crying and screaming for help, you would just shrug your shoulders?

Because it's illegal and they shouldn't have done it tsk tsk

EDIT: Also, unlawful /= unethical, going by dictionary definition anyway.

no, because that is not the situation i described

there is a difference between passive reaction to events over which you have no control, and deliberate action or inaction in a situation you do have control over

the specific situation is that a drug user has died at a music festival thousands of km from where i am.

drug use is unethical. the catholic church and most other religious institutions say so. most non religious moral authorities say so and the law says so.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

no, because that is not the situation i described

there is a difference between passive reaction to events over which you have no control, and deliberate action or inaction in a situation you do have control over

the specific situation is that a drug user has died at a music festival thousands of km from where i am.

drug use is unethical. the catholic church and most other religious institutions say so. most non religious moral authorities say so and the law says so.

So you would help? Why?

sick of Applebees
Nov 7, 2008

Negligent posted:

no, because that is not the situation i described

there is a difference between passive reaction to events over which you have no control, and deliberate action or inaction in a situation you do have control over

the specific situation is that a drug user has died at a music festival thousands of km from where i am.

drug use is unethical. the catholic church and most other religious institutions say so. most non religious moral authorities say so and the law says so.

The Catholic church also presumably frowns on pedophilia but look how that turned out...

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

SwissCM posted:

So you would help? Why?

their friend is already calling for help and i'm not a doctor who specialises in treating drug overdoses so what do you want me to do, stand around filming it on my phone? because thats what most people would do.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

their friend is already calling for help and i'm not a doctor who specialises in treating drug overdoses so what do you want me to do, stand around filming it on my phone? because thats what most people would do.

And how would you feel if they died right in front of you?

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
how would you feel if a drug addict raped you and killed your entire family :rolleyes:

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Aug 17, 2004

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Well, I'm happy to engage the one-dimensional troll, at least for a few minutes before bed.

What makes a person voluntarily giving themselves drugs of any kind unethical? Does that apply to all substances that have an effect on the body?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

how would you feel if a drug addict raped you and killed your entire family :rolleyes:

Probably the same way if they weren't a drug addict? Angry and devastated.

So, how would you feel in my hypothetical, or are you afraid of answering honestly?

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

SwissCM posted:

Probably the same way if they weren't a drug addict? Angry and devastated.

So, how would you feel in my hypothetical, or are you afraid of answering honestly?

your hypothetical only demonstrates that what is ethically right and good policy can not be dictated by base emotional responses

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

katlington posted:

I get way too much amusement from conservatives trying to coopt progressive jargon like a cargo cult

I dunno if they are trying to co-opt it, since the sort of people who criticise progressive jargon tend to have the thinnest skin. They may in fact require a safe space for their dumb opinions so as not to hurt their feelings.

Nien
Apr 29, 2013
Some days after the February spill, Fierravanti-Wells, a conservative ally of Abbott's, is reputed to have spoken to Credlin about the downfall of his government and prophesied: "One day Tony will be sitting on a park bench in Manly feeding the pigeons and he will blame you."


Too drunk to format or even link but hartcher is doing good getting a quote like that. I can see it.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
if hitler died would you feel sad y/n

this is relevant because reasons

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt__lHCuH5g

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Negligent posted:

your hypothetical only demonstrates that what is ethically right and good policy can not be dictated by base emotional responses

I don't care about policy, only how you feel. How you think you'll react. Would you feel anything? For the person who died, for the family, for their friends?

Can you even grasp the concept of empathy?

EDIT: Rhetorical question.

SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Nov 30, 2015

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Negligent posted:

no, because that is not the situation i described

there is a difference between passive reaction to events over which you have no control, and deliberate action or inaction in a situation you do have control over

the specific situation is that a drug user has died at a music festival thousands of km from where i am.

drug use is unethical. the catholic church and most other religious institutions say so. most non religious moral authorities say so and the law says so.

Certainly nothing arbitrary about what the Catholic Church, religious institutions, and 'other moral authorities' have to say about morality, no sir. I can see you did well in your Phil 101 class.

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PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Nien posted:

Some days after the February spill, Fierravanti-Wells, a conservative ally of Abbott's, is reputed to have spoken to Credlin about the downfall of his government and prophesied: "One day Tony will be sitting on a park bench in Manly feeding the pigeons and he will blame you."


Too drunk to format or even link but hartcher is doing good getting a quote like that. I can see it.

"reputed to have" = someone else told him it happened and is bullshitting because it's fun

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