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Negligent posted:if hitler died would you feel sad y/n Have you really gone straight to hitler? The man in the high castle is an awesome show btw. It's relevant because they ran this country for 18 months.
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Starshark posted:Certainly nothing arbitrary about what the Catholic Church, religious institutions, and 'other moral authorities' have to say about morality, no sir. I can see you did well in your Phil 101 class. i was asked about the ethics of drug taking and p much all of the authorities are of the view that drugs=bad
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Negligent posted:i was asked about the ethics of drug taking and p much all of the authorities are of the view that drugs=bad There's literally a logical fallacy called 'appeal to authority' how can you be this loving dumb. E: The churches derive their authority from books of made-up poo poo I mean how low can you go?
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i mean yeah there are lolbertarian nutbags like milton friedman who want to legalise drugs but hes not saying drug taking is ethical per se
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Starshark posted:There's literally a logical fallacy called 'appeal to authority' how can you be this loving dumb. my position is that drug taking is unethical and the balance of authorities supports that proposition. the fact that drug use is prohibited by both state and religious sanction is irrefutable proof that drug use is unethical by prevailing community standards.
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Nov 30, 2015 14:26
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negligent can you explain from base philosophical principles why drugs are unethical
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ok, laws against drugs prove that the 'prevailing community standard' is that drugs are unethical. by the same logic, was the holocaust ethical due to 'prevailing community standards' that were indifferent at worst and greatly supportive at best?
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BBJoey posted:negligent can you explain from base philosophical principles why drugs are unethical unethical = bad drugs = bad drugs = unethical 
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BBJoey posted:ok, laws against drugs prove that the 'prevailing community standard' is that drugs are unethical. by the same logic, was the holocaust ethical due to 'prevailing community standards' that were indifferent at worst and greatly supportive at best? the nazi state may have laws that reflected the ethical standards of germany but the jews themselves probably werent in favour of the holocaust and judaism is a religion that is anti drugs.
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yes but by the same token drug users aren't in favour of drug laws and likely subscribe to a philosophy that is not anti-drug. after all you said yourself it is the authorities who decide what is moral.
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no i didnt. im talking about ethics and its not interchangeable with morality. the views of drug users are of a minority compared to the prevailing ethical standards supported by law (an embodiment of what the state thinks is ethical) and religious standards subscribed to by a large plurality of the community.
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Nov 30, 2015 14:37
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if you swap in 'jews' for 'drug users' in that last paragraph your argument can be used to call the holocaust ethical, just fyi
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Negligent posted:no i didnt. im talking about ethics and its not interchangeable with morality. Minorities don't count. You know it. I know it. When will they learn.
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not really the nazi state passed laws that were discriminatory but hitler notoriously avoided putting anything in writing about the holocaust. in addition you can easily argue that there was a disconnect between the non-democratic nazi state and its people such that its laws werent representative of the prevailing ethical standards. whereas in australia we have a democratic state where laws generally are legitimately representative.
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Negligent posted:not really As demonstrated by the current laws on gay marriage.
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Frogmanv2 posted:As demonstrated by the current laws on gay marriage. the key word is current, community attitudes shift over time and just because there is a temporal lag doesnt mean the laws are unrepresentative generally.
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Negligent posted:no i didnt. im talking about ethics and its not interchangeable with morality. So in ten years time when Cannabis is legal in Australia -going off the trends in the poll http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6026-how-australians-feel-about-marijuana-201501272145 and what other similar countries have been doing- then suddenly it will suddenly becomes moral? your definition or morality sounds far more like sociality peer pressure then a well thought out system of principles designed to tell right from wrong. Also all the cool kids do drugs 
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Negligent posted:the key word is current, community attitudes shift over time and just because there is a temporal lag doesnt mean the laws are unrepresentative generally. Laws are a horrible, horrible way to define morality. Your basically arguing morality is dependent on what country your in. Oh poo poo I just took a flight and now suddenly its moral for me to stone someone to death for sodomy. Yay for having loving well thought out principles on how to live my life and treat my fellow people.
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What if you OD on legal drugs, is that good or bad?
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dr_rat posted:Laws are a horrible, horrible way to define morality. Your basically arguing morality is dependent on what country your in. Oh poo poo I just took a flight and now suddenly its moral for me to stone someone to death for sodomy. Yay for having loving well thought out principles on how to live my life and treat my fellow people. He already said anyone that gets stoned deserves to die, keep up
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dr_rat posted:So in ten years time when Cannabis is legal in Australia -going off the trends in the poll http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6026-how-australians-feel-about-marijuana-201501272145 and what other similar countries have been doing- then suddenly it will suddenly becomes moral? you are dumb Negligent posted:im talking about ethics and its not interchangeable with morality.
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dr_rat posted:Laws are a horrible, horrible way to define morality. Your basically arguing morality is dependent on what country your in. Oh poo poo I just took a flight and now suddenly its moral for me to stone someone to death for sodomy. Yay for having loving well thought out principles on how to live my life and treat my fellow people. you are dumb part 2 Negligent posted:im talking about ethics and its not interchangeable with morality.
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Come on guys, he's not even trying. At least make him work to troll you.
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Apparently a fuckin' secret Romanov just died in Katherine http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-30/russian-royal-kulikovsky-farewelled-in-darwin-after-dying-alone/6984476 Royalty's a pretty strong word, that they keep using, considering the events of the last hundred years, and that he died with only a dog friend in a caravan park [knock on wood] The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Good dog
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Stop biting you goddamn idiots.
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Nov 30, 2015 21:47
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just fuckin lol if you didn't touch fuzzy
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Birdstrike posted:just fuckin lol if you didn't touch fuzzy Greatest level. Greatest game.
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Australia Government are buying the Ocean Protector that they had on hire for border operations. Vessels like that do not come cheap. More money thrown into the fire to "stop the boats"
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AgentF posted:Sorry to hear it. I suppose we'll just have to have a gaming Goon meet when you get better After waking up, I feel well enough to go now, just with a very course voice.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:47
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Part 2! Peta! Woo! http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2015/Shirtfronted/PartTwoPeta.html Somebody's excited! 
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Negligent posted:society is objectively better off when drug users overdose and die gently caress you gently caress you gently caress YOU Now I know why everyone has you on their ignore list.
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Negligent's probably smoking weed right now.
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Then Abbott got on the blower," says Mitchell. "He rang me about 10 minutes after my response to Credlin. "He asked me why I'd object to Peta's request to sack Niki when I had sacked Glenn Milne [an earlier columnist at The Australian] at Julia Gillard's request. I explained to him that that wasn't what had happened." Abbott denies asking for Savva's sacking, but Mitchell says that was exactly the interpretation he'd put on the prime minister's call.
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open24hours posted:Negligent's probably smoking weed right now. nah there are laws against that nothing on the books about paint huffing though
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He gets high on trolling easy targets. I'm guessing he's OD'd by now.
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Anidav posted:Then Abbott got on the blower," says Mitchell. "He rang me about 10 minutes after my response to Credlin. It's fun seeing the Coalition supporters who don't want Abbott back salt the loving earth.
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