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Yoshimo posted:Quick question. My RPG group is made up of 5 people, including me. Obviously we can't play when all 5 of us are there, but when someone can't make it, we'd like to pull this out. You can but you probably shouldn't. The way the game changes means you're going to want to have different people in different months. About the generalist. We've just finished october and she was hella useful there and looks like she will be in the next two months
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I dunno, i never ever had a use for the generalist to be honest. You need to give her upgrades to make it worth it and some of the upgrades you need are better served on specialists. Our core team did change in the game because there are some obvious combos that work well on specific months, but we didn't do that many changes. There was only one change that really made us have to reconsider our team.
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Jul 6, 2016 14:06
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By the way, if anyone was like me and thought, "Pandemic Legacy was awesome, maybe I'll pick up Risk Legacy", don't bother. Risk Legacy is a much inferior game, you don't get to do nearly as much legacy stuff as you do in this one, and there's no story.
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Jul 12, 2016 21:41
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Also, you're playing Risk.
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Jul 13, 2016 18:13
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My gaming group preferred Risk Legacy because it was zanier and also no beloved characters died
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Picked this up last friday on praises from all over and i have to say i'm in love! We've played the base game a few times but now that there are far reaching consequences and "storyline" to follow it's a lot of fun! We've finished up till April so far and January:After playing 1 base game to remind ourselves of the rules we jumped right into using Legacy rules. We got completely destroyed by bad seeding of the cards and ended up losing our Medic in the process. The bad news being that had we done the upgrading rules correctly he'd still be alive now. We also hosed up the legacy cards because i didn't read them after getting to the second STOP card and never actually properly got to pick our C0DA. So we just kind retroactively picked out upgrades for our surviving characters and our C0DA February: Again we got completely screwed over with bad card seeding and as it turned out we hosed up doing chain reactions so we have a couple of cities that are bit higher in panic than they outta be. But luckily nobody died this time around. We're being careful to actually look at cards and read them over now. I thought not being able to treat C0DA would be the most annoying goddamn thing in the world but it ended up being Black (Zombieism) and Red (Communism) that was the big problem, multiple epidemics in a row are not fun  March: This signaled a turn around for us as we completely managed to eradicate 2 whole diseases before ending it, making it much easier to beat in the future games looks like? That'll be neat. The characters we started out with are pretty powerful at this point so nobody wants to ditch their role to try out the Quarantine Specialist or Operations Expert although i think our Generalist should maybe drop her for a few games to get some military bases up. Although it would suck for him to not get 6 actions starting next to his BFF Scientist. I did have a question about Events though, since i don't think it's mentioned in the rule book, they say on the cards that they can be played at any time, i'm assuming this also means during another players turn? Because if this is the case being a rival with the person going before/after you in the turn order is great because if you both have enough cards you can just bounce-for example-Remote Treatment between the both of you and continually use it until one of you runs out of cards.
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Jul 14, 2016 07:14
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Picked this up last friday on praises from all over and i have to say i'm in love! We've played the base game a few times but now that there are far reaching consequences and "storyline" to follow it's a lot of fun! We've finished up till April so far and
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Jul 14, 2016 08:33
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:I did have a question about Events though, since i don't think it's mentioned in the rule book, they say on the cards that they can be played at any time, i'm assuming this also means during another players turn? Because if this is the case being a rival with the person going before/after you in the turn order is great because if you both have enough cards you can just bounce-for example-Remote Treatment between the both of you and continually use it until one of you runs out of cards. You are correct, events can be played at any time including other people's turns. So yes, Rivals lets you repeatedly pick up events through discards. The only exception is that you cannot play a card in between drawing an infection card and resolution, so you couldn't draw a city then play Resistant Population to prevent placing cubes in that city for example. You have to do it before drawing the card.
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Jul 14, 2016 11:47
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Rivals is real great with roles like the Medic or others who're too busy globetrotting or managing other things to cure (before certain upgrades).
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Jul 15, 2016 16:59
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Should be doing november and december tonigbt. Wish us luck
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Played up until July today and wow did this game get crazy fast Freaking zombies? we had just made a joke about reskinning pandemic and selling it as a dime a dozen zombie game and look what it went and did  . On the plus side, it's good that i was vindicated in my crusade of "guys we really need to help the military get set up" which was being poo poo upon because with our team of Dispatcher,Researcher,Generalist and Scientist we were actually doing pretty well in keeping things under control. It was neat to the new intergration of our new military people since it was now more important than ever to keep CODA Quarantined and roadblocks are helping in ensuring it doesn't spread past North America (Madrid being our Ground Zero).As a bit of gameplay talk, I think it's helpful that we got Blue as our CODA since you can just Quarantine and Roadblock off the borders and generally be okay. I pity the poor bastards that get Black or Red since those parts of the map are just so spread out it'd be hard to keep as locked down. I'm thinking next game i'm going to drop our Researcher and become the Solider, going into the hot zone and loving dudes up to keep the zombos in check  .We've also been very lucky in general about outbreaks, ever since our first month we really haven't had that many go off and none of our cities are over 3 yet in Panic. On one hand i'm glad this is the case because we usually end up winning by a very narrow time margin instead and the game is still interesting in that regard. But on the other i feel like we're kind missing out on having entire areas of the map be just completely gone/overrun. That feeling that the world as a whole is getting completely hosed by these different viruses and there's not much you can do to save it because you have help sombody else like,right now.You know, the things the base game of Pandemic only implied upon
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Jul 21, 2016 02:45
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Played up until July today and wow did this game get crazy fast HOOLY BOOLY posted:As a bit of gameplay talk, I think it's helpful that we got Blue as our CODA since you can just Quarantine and Roadblock off the borders and generally be okay. I pity the poor bastards that get Black or Red since those parts of the map are just so spread out it'd be hard to keep as locked down. And good luck with adding the Soldier to your mix.
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Jul 21, 2016 06:09
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July/August Wow...just wow! The search mechanic is pretty neat! The second search for the Virologist having a bonus for each Medical personal on the same city is good flavor for having your military duds clear the way and hold off the zombies while you look for missing people was great! Not to mention that now the nuclear option is unlocked? Surely it won't ever come down to having to use it right? I'm wondering how long the game is gonna keep us waiting on being able to get DNA from the zombies since we opened up the box that said the immunologist needed us to go get stuff for him. Not to mention how in the hell we're gonna find virus computer data or whatever. We've been on a pretty good win streak for a while now but i wonder how much longer it's actually going to last at this rate...
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Jul 22, 2016 03:23
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Haven't been able to get a game in recently since some people in the group have gotten jobs But i did have another question. The rulebook on it's own goes over playing for the very first set up in Januarary. It mentions that players have to start together an in parenthesis states that you'll start in Atlanta on your first game. So when it means start together it for sure means you can't have 1 person start in multiple locations around the world right? Does it mean all 4 players have to start together at whatever start point you choose, or can you have 2 groups of 2 start at different locations? Because that's how we've been playing it this whole time.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:51
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Pick one city with a permanent research station: everyone starts there.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:06
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Ah so we most definitely have been doing that wrong! Thanks! We're already at 0 funding so it's not like we can make the game any harder on ourselves as punishment for cheating, but maybe it'll get more interesting now that we definitely have to think about where we start. Incidentally, one of our players has been complaining that we've been winning so much, pretty much ignoring the fact that we've been almost out of time almost every game. It helps that we've had much better draws from the player deck ever since our first losses in January, most of the time the majority of the epidemics are at the very bottom and just end up winning in the calm between the 2 we do get. The fact that we've mostly been upgrading the same characters up until the military became relevant has also eluded him as well i think.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:17
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Are you splitting the deck into 5 equal sections and shuffling an epidemic into each?
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Jul 31, 2016 03:33
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We are
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:We are So how do they keep ending up "at the very bottom?"
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fosborb posted:So how do they keep ending up "at the very bottom?" Luck/poor shuffling presumably.
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Aug 1, 2016 02:26
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It's probably a bit of both honestly. Plus even if we do get some epidemics it's usually not that big a deal since our dispatcher has since been maining the quarantine specialist so any huge problems that we see coming can at least be delayed for a bit.
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Xelkelvos posted:Luck/poor shuffling presumably. I'm honestly not sure how that could play into it unless you shuffle the cards again after shuffling each epidemic card into 1/5 stacks of the player deck... Is that what people do? Fully admit we could be playing it wrong (and I think those might be the rules for the original game) but that seems to completely ruin why you'd want a somewhat even distribution in the first place.
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Aug 1, 2016 04:49
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No, you shouldn't be shuffling the 5 piles together.
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Xelkelvos posted:Luck/poor shuffling presumably. That doesnt make sense. Only one could be at the very bottom. If nore than one is you're doing it wrong
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Having just talked to our designated shuffler, it turns out he's been shuffling the 5 piles together this whole time! Basically since we had our loss streak from doing it the correct way in January. So we've just been doing this game completely the wrong way, At least we have at least 4 more games ahead of us to catch up on all the bad poo poo that should have happened to use all year
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Aug 1, 2016 10:32
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Are you at like august september now? If your world isnt basically burning down by now you'll be having things really easy
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Yeah we're on one of those two at the moment. Kinda disappointed it turned out that way but oh well, we still had fun at the very least and there's always Season 2.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Having just talked to our designated shuffler, it turns out he's been shuffling the 5 piles together this whole time! Basically since we had our loss streak from doing it the correct way in January. So we've just been doing this game completely the wrong way, At least we have at least 4 more games ahead of us to catch up on all the bad poo poo that should have happened to use all year I own more or less everything ever released in the Pandemic stable... ...and I still constantly do this. Either that or I set up the deck perfectly - and then deal out the starting cards to everyone. "Why the gently caress have I got an Epidemic before we've even started?" edit - and it took me an embarrassing amount of time to work out where to put the lettered stickers in the Rulebook.
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I actually read that wrong and thought the post meant the Epidemic was at the bottom of each of the five piles, not the bottom of the entire deck. As a secondary note, I think we hosed up on the starting location rules since I think we've been playing it where each person can start at a building and not all together as a team.
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Oh yeah we totally hosed that rule up but since it's only at most 3 actions at the very beginning of the game, gently caress that. I'm not going to tell the table and make them feel like our wins are even slightly hollow.
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After 6 months my group finally finished this thing. After three hours of intensive planning and luck we managed to win in December by spreading the objectives over two games.  But we still got the collapse ending and earth is doomed.  Also I'm fairly sure we took the piss with the rules a bit at the end. After we vaccinated a city we treated it as totally cured, and nothing at all (including cubes) went there unless regular diseases outbroke into them. Which made the board almost disease free at the end. Gort posted:By the way, if anyone was like me and thought, "Pandemic Legacy was awesome, maybe I'll pick up Risk Legacy", don't bother. Risk Legacy is a much inferior game, you don't get to do nearly as much legacy stuff as you do in this one, and there's no story. I played Risk Legacy before Pandemic, but I thought it was genuinely great. Yeah Risk itself is pretty shite, but there was enough going on that we never got bored. There's far less of a narrative than Pandemic, but because it's a long term competitive game we forged our own narrative. It felt more emergent than scripted, which I really enjoyed. In a way it offers the sort of dynamic that Pandemic Legacy never achieves. I hope Seafall strikes a really good balance between the two. stev fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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Our group is into our second March game at the moment (we're at 1 win to 3 losses so far, two of those losses occurring one turn away from victory). A couple parts of the world are looking a bit iffy (Lagos is collapsing, Beijing and I think Seoul are rioting), but we've got a fairly good strategy going that means even if we lose things should remain fairly stable. Obviously we're expecting a spanner in the works to completely upend that fairly soon. A question on how the Dispatcher's ability works and what moving a pawn as if it were your own actually means. So let's say I'm the Dispatcher, I have the Beijing card and the Medic is in Beijing. That means I can spend that card to send the Medic anywhere as per the charter flight rule, correct? And the specific topic that brought this discussion up, if you give the Dispatcher the upgrade that lets them use military bases, does that mean they can move anyone between military bases through their ability.? Saguaro PI fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Yes. The Dispatcher can move anyone as though they were the dispatcher as long as it's legal and costs are paid. This also applies to the Pilot ability which allows you to Direct Flight people everywhere with your cards
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My group and I finally finished this last night. Got a 751, not too bad. Perfectly average. Would have gone up to the next category if we destroyed another military base, but it was off in Manilla, and COda as in yellow, so we had no reason to really go to that part of the board in December at all except to cure the few random red diseases that popped up. The only character that we played with the entire game was Dispatcher. He was essential in moving people to the right place, and he fit the role for one of my friends perfectly since he was the one who tended to QB the most. He was the only person to never switch roles at all the whole game. The next most after that was probably 3-way tie with Medic, Researcher, and Quarantine Specialist. Thankfully, I started playing the Soldier as soon as he came out and he became Sagittarius, so we were able to keep the QS. Once the Immunologist came out, I started playing him. We found the stockpile barely in the first half of December, the first two epidemics occurred early, so it was tough to manage the search while black was running rampant. We all took a scar or two to keep from losing from running out of black cubes via self-sacrifice. The QS actually died from a third scar to prevent a game-losing Outbreak so that I could then finish the search on the next turn. We still lost, but it allowed us to do nothing but vaccinate for the second half of December. Our worst outing was the first half of June...lost in the very first turn. And I mean the VERY first turn, the first player's Infect step. A LOT of blue came out in the initial 9 (I think two of the 3-cubes, a 2-cube, and one or two 1-cubes,) and all close together. The best the first player could do was eliminate 1 blue cube on one of the 3-cuber-cities (his cards were both red, he wasn't a Medic or even the QS) and no one had any cards to remove cubes or pop down a quarantine. His very first draw was an Epidemic, and yes, the card from the bottom to get 3 was a blue...right next to the other blue that still had 3. When they got reshuffled and we infected, that same one got hit and triggered two Outbreaks. The card under that was another blue city that now had 3 from the two outbreaks. Out of blue cubes, game over.
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Yeah, sometimes that can happen, it's one of the failings of Pandemic that it can sometime throw unwinnable game states  I wonder when Season 2 is gonna come out. I was looking forward to Seafall but it doesn't seem like something that me and my fiancee can play together like we did Pandemic: Legacy.
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Just won our first game in April, will be playing May next. So, with the basic Faded rules, those don't interact with Panic level in ways beyond standard rules, am I right? So you can still happily waltz into a city with faded in it if it's at panic level is 0-1 for example?
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Correct.
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Finally found some time tonight to continue our game and woooooooow September and October spoilers Of course theres an evil organization behind everything, why wouldent there be? The worst part being that our Sagittarius was the Quarantine Specialist so keeping poo poo under control is gonna be a pain in the rear end And what a pain in the rear end October ended up being! We correcting our shuffling and managed to beat September bdut October got us with Finding Patient Zero and our Colonel being afraid of doing his one job of killing zombies sonce he already has 2 scars. Also as a plot question. The government doesn't know that we know about Zodiac right? They aren't aware we're the ones blowing up the bases? Also since we found Zero and then lost we didn't actually continue the plot, dowe eventually get to actually make the vaccine to CODA?
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September We had an amazing winning streak going to the point that we hit zero funding and then won a game on it. Black had four upgrades, Yellow three and blue one. By August we had six permanent military bases set up, meaning one objective was already beaten for us! Also, we retired the Ops Expert, who I'd been playing alongside our usual Medic+Researcher+Quarantine Specialist, and I went back to the Dispatcher, who we loaded up with Veteran+Paramilitary Escort. We managed to quickly find the Virologist and Immunologist. Things were going smoothly. Sure, we were on zero funding, but we had a great handle on things and surely nothing could go wrong for us, right? Only read this bit if you've gotten to September and found the paranoid soldier Then we found the Paranoid Soldier . Goodbye, Sagittarius the Dispatcher, you traitor  . Things spiraled out of control after that, Kinshasa has become our first collapsed city and four more cities are rioting.That being said, I'm, still feeling pretty optimistic. The new upgrades are pretty good, and now six more cards have them! We should be fine. 
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Just finished July and we've been on a hot streak for about four months; last two games haven't gotten to the third Epidemic. We've got three Positive Mutations on Black and two on Red (yellow is CoDa), so curing/eradicating milestones are always pretty easy, and bouncing around setting up military bases with the ops expert isn't too bad. South America/Africa is a trashfire, but, welp. I just worry that we've just upgraded ourselves into E-Z Mode! Still having fun, just hoping something soon makes things dicier.
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