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Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Klaus88 posted:

Money is sexy.

Dem golddigging bitches, amirite? :thesperg:

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Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

QuoProQuid posted:

Uhhh... having a sitting member of Congress in the KKK seems like a pretty big deal. Has any news outlet picked up on this alleged leak and has Wilson himself responded?

I don't see any news articles about this.

Yes. Please. Let's go down this path.

"Hillary, anonymously leaked records from a planned parenthood hack indicate that you have had three dozen abortions in your life. Can you verify if the number of abortions you've had in your life is indeed this high? Or is the number somewhat lower?"

"Bernie Sanders, the intelligence records leaked to pastebin indicate that you spent much of your congressional career under investigation for giving confidential government documents to the KGB, FSK and PRC. Can you comment on those investigations, and if your socialist beliefs made you more eager to share those documents with our enemies for free?"

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Fox will bring up Bernie's 'honeymoon' to the Soviet Union from time to time.

Which is a thing that actually happened, as verified by Bernie and his wife in memoirs and interviews. Fox (and Will, and the NRO) bring it up for intellectually bankrupt redbaiting and insinuation-which is hacky and reprehensible-but it is markedly different than "Hey, your name was seen on a list of dubious provenance. Would you care to comment on reports of your membership in the klan?"

Trabisnikof posted:

lol if you think Clinton and Sanders won't have to answer stupid questions like this already. The sitting president has had to defend his birth for years, we went down this path years ago.

Which required concerted efforts from multiple (bipartisan!) political campaigns as well as substantial financial commitment from various racist republican millionaires. This is more comparable to Larry Sinclair-though even that inanity would have been more reasonable in that at least there was physically someone making accusations who could be interviewed and his credibility weighed. "Whitey" tape could a plausible comparison, I guess?

Grey Fox posted:

Considering Diane Rehm on NPR asked Bernie about his non-existent dual citizenship with Israel because of something she saw on Facebook, we're already there.

Interviewer fucks up and asks borderline racist and profoundly stupid question, is called out on it, has to apologize. Welp, poo poo, seal is broken guys. Everyone in news is now Chuck Johnson. Go hog wild.

QuoProQuid posted:

I wasn't demanding Wilson resign. I was asking if any further details had come out regarding the allegations.

What allegation? Because "based on this pastebin file, you're a member of the Klan" isn't an allegation in any meaningful sense of the word. What possible further details will there be? No actual journalist, columnist or opinion writer will do anything with this list. Wilson will ignore it entirely, because "Wilson denies reports of membership in the Klan" is a headline that gets people fired. At this stage, it's a lazy and ineffective troll effort. Someone with a sense of artistry and subtlety would have gone with a couple of senior RNC staffers, and maybe a campaign manager or state director for a few of the primary contestants. Maybe Lew Rockwell too, if they had a sense of humor.

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Rygar201 posted:

This is disingenuous. Sanders went on a city trip to a city in the USSR, his wife was one of many other attendees, and it fell shortly after his their wedding. Suggesting it was some glorious communist honeymoon paints a very different picture.

Should I have bolded "hacky and reprehensible"? "Honeymoon" is not an unfair description of "trip to foreign country on the day after a wedding." We know this, because Sanders and his wife have directly referred to it as such. It was also obviously the sort of junket that is part of the job for large city mayors/governors. Fox should be ashamed for presenting it as relaxing honeymoon vacation and/or a pilgrimage to the glorious Socialist Homeland... but that's in an entirely category than Larry Sinclair, Birth Certificates or Grand Dragon Wilson.

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

crazy cloud posted:

It's also the land of Mitt Romney. Not In My Backyard-ism poo poo now applies to human beings :toot:

It's also the land of



Boston has kinda a lovely racist past. Many of the people from their lovely racist past are still alive.

On the plus side, Boston's Mayor appears to understand what #BostonStrong was actually about and is willing to accept refugees if the government places them there.

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Grouchio posted:

Should I be worried that the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement has recently been drafted and may or may not become law?

Luckily, there's a thread just for this topic! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3725584&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=13

If you don't want to read that thread (hint: don't read that thread), it appears that the initial leaks were at least somewhat overblown or offbase. Past that, it's a bigass document and there's still a substantial period of time before it comes up for a vote.

EFF appears to dislike it, but while I respect the work they do, asking their opinion on this is like asking Lindsay Graham about an invasion or Donald Trump about a young Eastern European woman. There are some elements that are likely to have slight negative impact to the US. Early reports are a mixed bag for other signatories. Not surprisingly, given the intent of the pact, China gets hosed.

crazy cloud posted:

:catstare:

That picture isn't fun to look at please stop invading my personal safe posting space.

If it helps, everyone involved says that it was horrible timing and a horrible angle on the photo. Apparently, the attacker was swinging the flag at his target rather than trying to impale him.

(I don't think that makes it much less horrible?)

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Grouchio posted:

I mostly worried about the copyright implications that could stifle the japanese media industries.

Initial reports has it bumping term up to Life+70 years for countries who weren't already on that level, including Japan. That's the same term as the US, EU and Australia. Again, past that, we'll have to see. Hollywood's put up big money lobbying on this, so if your sole concern is foreign media innovation, you'll probably not be a huge fan.

crazy cloud posted:

That does help kinda, thank you.

Wait why was he waving a flag "at" a "target" :confused: am I using flags wrong have I been using flags wrong this whole time?

I believe the intent is to hit him, as if it's a baseball bat. They didn't have violent video games in those days, so antisocial white men emulated their favorite sportsmen instead! It's why The Green Monster has long been known as the Gamer Gate.

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Lotka Volterra posted:

It's sad that this is the most likely scenario, and another reason all mainstream media must die.

On the other hand, pushing more towards a decentralized news media means access is even more crucial for survival, giving campaigns more leverage and further reducing actual investigation and real questions

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx
It should be noted that the police union head in Minneapolis is (was?) a member of City Heat, an off duty officer's motorcycle club. This MC gained more than a little notoriety for posting photos of members with patches featuring the text "No Blacks", "I'm here for the hanging" beneath the Klan logo, and numerous swastikas and related patches.

I look forward to the media inquires to Kroll, asking for confirmation that his White Supremacist organization was not the one involved in the shooting.

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Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Kilroy posted:

Is there any chance that the response to this will be more along the lines of "we should stop allowing talk radio and Rupert Murdoch to fill American airwaves with hate speech" instead of the usual "time to talk about gun control for a month and then stop"?


Kilroy posted:

You don't see much talk - anywhere - about restricting speech on public airwaves so that media organizations can't incite violence by appealing to most of the worst parts of human nature. Is that an even less realistic goal than gun control?

Hey guys! Maybe if we censor their speech, it'll make their ideas die. This plan always works out!

No. The left won't have this conversation. Because-outside of a very small segment of college students-nobody actually wants to ban speech. The reason nobody is talking about restricting speech on public airwaves is that even those, like me, who loathe the O'Keefe, Murdoch and Chuck Johnson will be the first ones to grab the pitchforks and torches if this starts to gain momentum in congress.

You want to push Twitter to pull the accounts of folks like floorshitter? I'm with you. You want to boycott anyone who advertises on Hannity? Go for it. You want to protest outside Hobby Lobby with the graphic crime scene photos from this event? I might think it's a tenuous connection, but go ahead. Exercise your rights.

How do you think restricting the content of politically unpopular speech will work whenever the GOP does manage to take back the White House and have control in congress?

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