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Who What Now posted:If you see a pair of men walking down the street holding hands and you start following them while screaming "You loving piece of poo poo faggots are what's wrong with this nation, it should be illegal for you sodomite rear end-fuckers to be considered citizens!" do you believe that should be protected political speech? After all, it isn't directly advocating for violence against those two men. Should the speech itself be protected? Yes. Should the intentional harassment of people be protected, just because it involves politically controversial speech? No.
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OwlFancier posted:Difficult to see how you do one without the other. Not really.
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This is one of the few thing where America gets it right and everyone else gets it wrong.
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Just look at Europe or Canada or Australia to see how racism and bigotry have been completely eliminated by these laws. Checkmate Americailures.
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falcon2424 posted:We should just treat the thing as a harassment problem, without adding the weird political layer that comes with 'hate speech' laws. Agreed. Harassment is harassment. The language used should be pretty irrelevant short of direct and specific threats of violence.
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falcon2424 posted:
Yeah that's not possible. You just have to accept the fact that some people/positions are not going to be popular in society and catch any cases that cross the line into acute harassment. Trying to build a national hugbox is just going to explode in your face.
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Geoff Peterson posted:harassment that has the intended impact of intimidating its targets into silence Assuming there is some widely organized and intended impact behind a mass of people negatively engaging a target seems  .
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Geoff Peterson posted:Gamergate? No thankyou. 
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Hollismason posted:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rebecca-ann-sedwick-suicide-2-arrests-made-in-death-of-bullied-florida-girl/ "According to other articles, the parents moved their daughter to another school because of the bullying going on against her. Then the lovely children at school resorted to cyberbullying because their target was no longer readily available to them in person. The parents were trying to help her in every way they could." Yeah that definitely sounds like hate speech and totally not specifically targeted harassment and threats which no one has said should be legal.
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Can we get some more pictures and articles of dead children in this thread please?!?
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Hollismason posted:http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Kennedy-LeRoy-Bullied-Teen-With-Aspergers-Commits-Suicide-Ayala-High-School-308013731.html Almost there.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:good, people who engage in hate speech are overwhelmingly unpopular weirdos who need to cloak themselves as rights advocates in order to pretend that they aren't just social outcasts Agreed. Lock up anyone who says something I don't like.
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Literally The Worst posted:screech at strawmen 90% of this thread.
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