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Brony Car posted:It'd be interesting to see if Remi puts Agbonlahor on the bench. How did that guy become captain? Been at the club the longest + the all important premier league 'experience'. I really hope that Garde fucks him off, permanently.
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EvilHawk posted:Arsenal's medical staff are a loving shambles. I liked it when Arsene blamed Wales for Ramsey's 50th hamstring injury in 3 years.
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EvilHawk posted:Arsenal's medical staff are a loving shambles. Wenger won't let them give their players drugs like everyone else
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Nov 3, 2015 20:04
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Frankston posted:Been at the club the longest + the all important premier league 'experience'. I really hope that Garde fucks him off, permanently. If he just starts Carles Gil he's already miles ahead of Sherwood
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Nov 3, 2015 20:28
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Lot 49 posted:Anyway, what's the atmosphere like inside OT atm? Are either of Van Gaal or Rooney getting much stick from match going fans yet or is that still largely confined to forums and twitter? Well it changed tonight Some people tried to start a chant of "You Scouse Bastard" when Rooney ran offside, they got immediately bood and a half hearted Rooney chant started. I dont think I need to tell you about the rest of the fan reactions I think it was clear on TV
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Nov 3, 2015 23:20
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Rooney is going to go down as a Manchester United legend no matter what tbh, it has always struck me as odd that hes got so much stick from certain sections of supporters when he has, for the most part, been consistently excellent for about a decade. Is it because of his moan about a new contract? it just seems strange that someone who has been so good for so long attracts such venom, when other similar players dont
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Nov 3, 2015 23:31
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TelekineticBear! posted:Rooney is going to go down as a Manchester United legend no matter what tbh, it has always struck me as odd that hes got so much stick from certain sections of supporters when he has, for the most part, been consistently excellent for about a decade. Is it because of his moan about a new contract? it just seems strange that someone who has been so good for so long attracts such venom, when other similar players dont He's always been a pretty streaky player and when he's bad he's real bad. Also the contract thing was ridiculous and he pulled that stunt a couple of times. He'll be regarded fondly I'm sure but not in the Giggs, Scholes or even Cantona way.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:02
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Yeah even cantona, who hardly anyone rates these days and frankly althougg this is the benefiy of hindsight talking was lucky to pull on the utd shirt at all
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Nov 4, 2015 00:08
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Breath Ray posted:Yeah even cantona, who hardly anyone rates these days and frankly althougg this is the benefiy of hindsight talking was lucky to pull on the utd shirt at all Your gimmick sucks but I'll reply seriously. Cantona wasn't actually at United all that long and spent a lot of time being suspended for being a massive cock. I think he was a catalyst for United becoming a dominant team though and had the personality to achieve a pretty cult status on top of the following his ability gave him.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:15
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Rooney will end his career as the player with the most goals in the Premier League, Most goals for England and most goals for United yet people will still call him poo poo.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:17
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serious gaylord posted:Rooney will end his career as the player with the most goals in the Premier League, Most goals for England and most goals for United yet people will still call him poo poo. To be honest I don't see him making the first one. He's got to get 73 more goals and he's 30 already. That's 3 seasons of matching his best season (which was 6 years ago), or 5 seasons of ~15 goals
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Nov 4, 2015 00:23
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serious gaylord posted:Rooney will end his career as the player with the most goals in the Premier League, Most goals for England and most goals for United yet people will still call him poo poo. Rooney was/is a great player but he played in an extremely dominant team that, under Ferguson, always got the strikers plenty of goals. Andy Cole wasn't the most gifted player ever but he scored a poo poo ton at United because of the huge amount of opportunities the wingers provided. Rooney has also benefitted from never been dropped by club and country regardless of form so can keep adding the odd goal to his total without playing well for months on end. Any United fan that doesn't appreciate what Rooney has done for the club is an idiot but I totally understand why some wouldn't idolize him in the same manner as other United players (which have made similar or lesser impact)
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Nov 4, 2015 00:27
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Oh I agree, he's never going to be remembered like Giggs, Cantona or even Ronaldo will be, but he'll still go down as one of Uniteds great players.
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Ewar Woowar posted:Your gimmick sucks but I'll reply seriously. I'll get in here before Ninpo does If thats what you think of Cantona then fair enough, but the reason he was such a cult hero was because he worked so hard in matches and loved the team. His goal tally was nothing phenomenal but he was also a massive creative influence, I think he until recently had the best games per assist ratio. Probably the biggest influence he had on the team was being there as the Class of 92 came through. His discipline and hardwork in training reflected in them, along with his will to win. I dont think that bunch would have been the same without Cantona being there. I dont think you can ever class him among the real greats because he did have a tendancy to not show up in the biggest games, but his signing was a turning point for United becoming the force they would in the Premier League. I was there for this goal, and I'm not sure I'll ever see a better one in the flesh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ccyEPUNjM I remember as it went in and he held his arms round I looked at the linesman thinking he was protesting a flag for offside, but no, he was saying I am the best, and to United fans then he was.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:30
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Rooney has a fat scouse potato face and that's all the evidence I need to call him a poo poo granny-shagging oval office tbh.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:32
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The Big Taff Man posted:I'll get in here before Ninpo does Oh I actually totally agree with you. That's what I meant about being the catalyst. His confidence and arrogance rubbed off on the team in a huge way (Keane had a similar effect with his own personality) and gave a lot of belief to the young players coming through. Rooney has neither the personality nor the outrageous flair that will make him an absolute legend regardless of how many goals he ends up scoring for United.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:38
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The days of legendary players playing for Manchester United are over.
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Ewar Woowar posted:Rooney was/is a great player but he played in an extremely dominant team that, under Ferguson, always got the strikers plenty of goals. I think this is unfair to Rooney actually, hes been sacrificed a fair few times for the team because of other players (like Ronaldo, Berbatov and Tevez) because hes a much more flexible player. Even last season he was playing in midfield a bunch. In Old Trafford the fans love him, it was notable that seconds after the goal went in they were chanting his name. If you want to pinpoint why many United fans have an issue with him its the fact that he held the club up for more money several times.
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The Big Taff Man posted:I think this is unfair to Rooney actually, hes been sacrificed a fair few times for the team because of other players (like Ronaldo, Berbatov and Tevez) because hes a much more flexible player. Even last season he was playing in midfield a bunch. Given the huge turnover you've had recently there aren't many players that have been at the club very long so it's not surprising fans are loyal to him (despite it barely being reciprocated).
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Nov 4, 2015 00:47
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i think there are some persistent offenders who could try to write at least one post about their own team for every three they write about united. i dont even know what the barb about andy cole is. it looks to be the work of someone suffused with bitterness and a very small brain to me
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Pissflaps posted:The days of legendary players playing for Manchester United are over. We could probably get John O'Shea back in January if we asked nicely
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serious gaylord posted:Rooney will end his career as the player with the most goals in the Premier League, Most goals for England and most goals for United yet people will still call him poo poo. He'll be back. There's still a good few years at the top still with his ability.
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i mean lets take a step back here. weve got a liverpool fan who has the worlds favourite manager newly in charge. they beat the reigning champions in their last game. their best player of last season is back among the goals. and what are they talking about? how posterity will judge waybe toadfish rooney.
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Breath Ray posted:i mean lets take a step back here. weve got a liverpool fan who has the worlds favourite manager newly in charge. they beat the reigning champions in their last game. their best player of last season is back among the goals. and what are they talking about? how posterity will judge waybe toadfish rooney.
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The Big Taff Man posted:I'll get in here before Ninpo does good thing you did, not sure the OP would be prepared for the abuse ninpo is ready to dish out after a comment like that
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sorry that wasnt directed at you 8raz, ive crunched the numbers and you post about your team enough
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lets talk about villa. theyre a couple of wins from escaping the dropzone and will have some much needed new manager bounce. unfortunately they also have the following fixtures coming up BPL 8 Nov 2015 v Man City (H) BPL 21 Nov 2015 v Everton (A) BPL 28 Nov 2015 v Watford (H) BPL 5 Dec 2015 v Southampton (A) BPL 13 Dec 2015 v Arsenal (H)
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Breath Ray posted:lets talk about villa. theyre a couple of wins from escaping the dropzone and will have some much needed new manager bounce. unfortunately they also have the following fixtures coming up I think Villa are going down tbh. The only thing going for them is Sunderland, Norwich and an unlucky Bournemouth being just as terrible.
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Ewar Woowar posted:I think Villa are going down tbh. The only thing going for them is Sunderland, Norwich and an unlucky Bournemouth being just as terrible. Don't forget the Newcastle Pies and everyone's favorite plucky underdogs, Chelsea Soccer Club
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if villa are going to go down its not the games against #thegoodteams that'll do it. They need to have a really good second half of the season and win against all the teams they should be expected to.
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straight up brolic posted:if villa are going to go down its not the games against #thegoodteams that'll do it. They need to have a really good second half of the season and win against all the teams they should be expected to. Expected to? Honestly on paper Villa probably have one of the weakest squad in the division along with Norwich, Sunderland and a depleted Bournemouth. Unless Garde turns out to be amazing I think their only chance is that those three are just a little bit shitter. Newcastle should be okay. Their squad has some really talented players in it and despite being managed by a plonker that should be enough to see them to safety.
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Ewar Woowar posted:Expected to? You're mistaking poor results for poor quality. Sherwood didn't leverage the strengths of our players at all.
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straight up brolic posted:Incorrect. We have good players, we were just being managed by an even bigger plonker than McClaren. Eh maybe I'm being unfair as I don't watch Villa a whole lot. Who do you define as being good in the Villa team at the moment?
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I just went and checked out Villa's squad expecting it to be total poo poo and was pretty surprised. It isn't half as bad as Sunderland or Norwich.
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Ewar Woowar posted:Eh maybe I'm being unfair as I don't watch Villa a whole lot. Who do you define as being good in the Villa team at the moment? Veretout can play football but 'isn't fit'. Carlos Gil has good technique but is so loving slow. The rest of our midfield ranges from poo poo to mediocre (with Gueye being the best of the lot) and is the weakest part of our team. Grealish is getting exhausted as he's expected to do too much for a 19 year old but he's a class above everyone else in the squad on his day. I thought Ayew would be poo poo, but he's been ridiculously good recently. Sinclair is hot and cold. Gestede (kind of) wins all the headers and is at least a presence. Libor Kozak is good from what I've seen, but Sherwood didn't rate him or whatever. Adama Traore is one of the best physical players in the premier league, but has no idea how to play football. All of these players are 'mid-table' quality, the problem is getting the jigsaw to fit and getting them playing well together. The squad is much better than it was last season, but we don't have Benteke
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blue footed boobie posted:I just went and checked out Villa's squad expecting it to be total poo poo and was pretty surprised. It isn't half as bad as Sunderland or Norwich. The only Villa players that would get in Norwich's team are Richards and Okore (even though I've never been impressed with him I'm not sure he can be worse than Martin is atm). Maybe Lescott too depending on how old and knackered he is these days.
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Blue Star Error posted:The only Villa players that would get in Norwich's team are Richards and Okore (even though I've never been impressed with him I'm not sure he can be worse than Martin is atm). Maybe Lescott too depending on how old and knackered he is these days. Lescott is real bad op. Has Illori played for you? Everyone always raves about him at Liverpool but it's pretty clear no one has ever seen him actually play a game. I'm not even sure he exists to be honest.
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Ewar Woowar posted:Lescott is real bad op. They've never played Ilori, which has made the loan a waste of time for everyone involved. As Tim Sherwood put it: quote:I would never have taken him if it was just a loan. I have no interest in developing players for other clubs but with the opportunity to sign him at the end of it was too good to turn down. So Sherwood viewed the loan as an extended "try before you buy" period for someone he did not feel was ready for the first team. Awesome.
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