computer parts posted:And Warcraft 1 doesn't have elves. According to THE LORE warcraft 1 had elves involved in the backstory, kind of in a council of elrond situation, but they didn't take part in the war. E: Trying to remember the specifics made me remember a bunch of the dumb contradictions that piled up into the story over the years and now I have a headache. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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The fact that Warcraft doesn't give a gently caress about canon and is willing to ignore whatever gets in the way of what they're trying to do with the actual game sounds really cool and good. Especially since it's a candy-colored fantasy land full of goofy pop-culture references and drunk talking panda bears, people need to quit taking that poo poo so seriously to justify the countless hours and $$$ they've wasted on it over the years. I'm hoping that the movie lives up to that and is a light 80s-style fantasy movie in stark opposition to the grimdark  fantasy that has been big as of late.
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Sleeveless posted:The fact that Warcraft doesn't give a gently caress about canon and is willing to ignore whatever gets in the way of what they're trying to do with the actual game sounds really cool and good. Of course you do. Anytime someone does something stupid and alienating to its audience, someone on SA will rush to praise them for it.
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Lurdiak posted:Of course you do. Anytime someone does something stupid and alienating to its audience, someone on SA will rush to praise them for it. The Warhammer thread stands in pretty stark contradiction to this sentiment.
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Snowman_McK posted:The Warhammer thread stands in pretty stark contradiction to this sentiment. I'm sure there's someone out there who thinks WH40k's terrible writing is "dope" because it makes nerds mad.
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sure there's someone out there who thinks WH40k's terrible writing is "dope" because it makes nerds mad. No. The thread is full of people laughing at Games Workshop's staggering ineptitude and pettiness. Games Workshop is a car-wreck of a company and its only through blind luck that they've lasted as long as they have Snowman_McK fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Nov 5, 2015 02:48
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Lurdiak posted:Of course you do. Anytime someone does something stupid and alienating to its audience, someone on SA will rush to praise them for it. Like, dude, it's called a "different perspective".
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sure there's someone out there who thinks WH40k's terrible writing is "dope" because it makes nerds mad. No, that's nerds who think the writing is dope.
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Lurdiak posted:This is a bit Trap Sprung but I just noticed you got it backwards. No, Doomhammer betrays Blackhand, kills him, takes his place as Warchief, and Metzen drew this to summarize it: 
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Corek posted:No, Doomhammer betrays Blackhand, kills him, takes his place as Warchief, and Metzen drew this to summarize it: Oh yeah. It's just that Doomhammer was the kinda heroic one, and Blackhand was the big jerk who got retconned into being a pawn of Gul'dan, so his betrayal doesn't really fit the kinda Blizzard cliche I was talking about, where everyone is either Saruman or Anakin Skywalker. Why is so much of my brain space occupied by Warcraft lore.
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Lurdiak posted:Oh yeah. It's just that Doomhammer was the kinda heroic one, and Blackhand was the big jerk who got retconned into being a pawn of Gul'dan, so his betrayal doesn't really fit the kinda Blizzard cliche I was talking about, where everyone is either Saruman or Anakin Skywalker. I never read those retcons so I just remembered Blackhand as "placeholder 1st warchief before Doomhammer".
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Corek posted:No, Doomhammer betrays Blackhand, kills him, takes his place as Warchief, and Metzen drew this to summarize it: 
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Corek posted:I never read those retcons so I just remembered Blackhand as "placeholder 1st warchief before Doomhammer". He was a big rear end in a top hat, Doomhammer actually tried to meet with Lothar (the Alliance's George Washington) and end the war in Warcraft 2 because he was actually sensible and not blood-crazed for an orc, but Blackhand's rear end in a top hat kids followed him to the secret meeting and killed the guy, and he had to pretend like that was the plan all along to save face with the horde. Once again, it's a shame that I know this.
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Everyone pulled double duty on those games, even if they sucked. Bill Roper voiced every character in Warcraft I.
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Corek posted:Everyone pulled double duty on those games, even if they sucked. Bill Roper voiced every character in Warcraft I. Metzen still voices pretty much every bad guy as well as Thrall in WoW, but I think that's ego and not cost cutting.
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Sleeveless posted:The fact that Warcraft doesn't give a gently caress about canon and is willing to ignore whatever gets in the way of what they're trying to do with the actual game sounds really cool and good. Especially since it's a candy-colored fantasy land full of goofy pop-culture references and drunk talking panda bears, people need to quit taking that poo poo so seriously to justify the countless hours and $$$ they've wasted on it over the years. Not when they do it every 3 months.
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Lurdiak posted:Of course you do. Anytime someone does something stupid and alienating to its audience, someone on SA will rush to praise them for it. gently caress the audience.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Whatever is going on here If two bitchin vans crash into each other at just the right speed . . .
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Lisa Frank, but for boys.
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I haven't followed Blizzard games since the original Warcraft III came out more than 10 years ago but aren't you guys forgetting the third Blizzard story cliche, "heroic leader sacrifices themselves to defeat the ultimate evil"? Or is that less common than I'm remembering?
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Helsing posted:I haven't followed Blizzard games since the original Warcraft III came out more than 10 years ago but aren't you guys forgetting the third Blizzard story cliche, "heroic leader sacrifices themselves to defeat the ultimate evil"? Or is that less common than I'm remembering? Hasn't happened in Starcraft 2 yet to the best of my knowledge. Kinda happened in Diablo 3 but the heroic leader got better at the end.
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Helsing posted:I haven't followed Blizzard games since the original Warcraft III came out more than 10 years ago but aren't you guys forgetting the third Blizzard story cliche, "heroic leader sacrifices themselves to defeat the ultimate evil"? Or is that less common than I'm remembering? You mean Jesus?
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I was kinda hoping they'd cast all the celebrities the WoW dancing animations are based off and have them do their respective dances for 90 minutes
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MisterBibs posted:I feel like I'm being shitposterty, but I wish I could see what mind boggling terrible thing(s) you guys are seeing. The movie ain't going to be good, but those shots look fine to me. Show me one finished screen shot from the Thing prequel that looks better than the original's effects shots. I am not counting the inproduction shots that actually looked decent, but the actual released movie.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Show me one finished screen shot from the Thing prequel that looks better than the original's effects shots. I am not counting the inproduction shots that actually looked decent, but the actual released movie. I can't remember if Misterbibs is the goon who actually worked on the CGI effects for the Thing prequel 'cause I remember that guy being just as insufferable back in 2011. Either way you're not gonna convince him otherwise, just ignore his nonsense. He tried starting the exact same argument in the Red Letter Media thread out of nowhere.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Show me one finished screen shot from the Thing prequel that looks better than the original's effects shots. I am not counting the inproduction shots that actually looked decent, but the actual released movie. I don't have the movie on my tablet, but every CGI shot in the prequel looks better than the stuff from the original, especially if you're going for "Monster that can literally be anything it wants to be at any time." You don't use Power Rangers monsters because you want to, you use em because you don't have a better option. Now, we do, and the only ones kvetching about that progression are the comparitive luddites. Carpenter's movie is to the prequel as the black-and-white movie is to Carpenter's, effects wise. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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porfiria posted:You mean Jesus? For Tassadar so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Lothar that we might drive a soul stone into his forehead to contain an ancient evil.
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porfiria posted:You mean Jesus? Fun fact, the humans actually were Christians in the original Warcraft, until they changed that sometime during WC2, although their churches still had crosses.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Lisa Frank, but for boys. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand but I was recalling the saccharine acid trip that was lisa frank merchandise to someone I knew but I had what I hope was a senior moment and NOT a freudian slip and started talking about how lame Anne Frank's art was to an increasingly horrified coworker. I mean I'm not saying it was the worst thing to happen to Anne Frank but it sure as hell was not kind and I'm bummed that I let Lisa Frank off the hook.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Whatever is going on here, looks pretty badass. Hell yeah.
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I hope it turns out to be a massive smash hit like Avatar and people start photoshopping themselves into orcs, orcs everywhere, orc orc orc Here I'll get it started, here's me as an orc dreaming of my homeland 
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FutonForensic posted:I was kinda hoping they'd cast all the celebrities the WoW dancing animations are based off and have them do their respective dances for 90 minutes A theatrical movie with Alizee? Thanks dude you're gonna force me to cum in public. THANKS.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV3roWM0DSsLurdiak posted:Fun fact, the humans actually were Christians in the original Warcraft, until they changed that sometime during WC2, although their churches still had crosses. 
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MisterBibs posted:I don't have the movie on my tablet, but every CGI shot in the prequel looks better than the stuff from the original, especially if you're going for "Monster that can literally be anything it wants to be at any time." You don't use Power Rangers monsters because you want to, you use em because you don't have a better option. Now, we do, and the only ones kvetching about that progression are the comparitive luddites.
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MisterBibs posted:I don't have the movie on my tablet, but every CGI shot in the prequel looks better than the stuff from the original, especially if you're going for "Monster that can literally be anything it wants to be at any time." You don't use Power Rangers monsters because you want to, you use em because you don't have a better option. Now, we do, and the only ones kvetching about that progression are the comparitive luddites. I don't necessarily disagree with you. But you are being annoyingly disingenuous when you compare all practical effects to Power Ranger costumes.
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